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Plans for the future of Gamingforce
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Old Feb 13, 2009, 10:45 AM #1 of 169
There are ways to host attachments externally.

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I didn't realize that sheet music was still being hosted as attachments. I thought the decision was made to move all of that off-site a long time ago. Also, the .com site is a separate site now? Is it commercially hosted, or piggybacked off of someone else's webspace?

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Old Feb 14, 2009, 01:10 AM #2 of 169
We've all more or less banded together here because it's what made the most sense financially.

I don't think that Blah is implying that the GFF admins don't care about GFF. What he's saying is that the majority of the server's bill is paid by VGMdb staff, and has been for a while now. Much of the staff is common to here too, so it's not an issue. Naka offered to move SlightlyDark over to our hosting so that he could start contributing to the server bill, and lower the monthly tab for the rest of the regular contributors.

Now that I've seen more of the story, I agree that moving the "pirate" parts of the board to other hosting is the best solution. It's not just about disc space, though running out of space may have sped things up.

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Old Feb 14, 2009, 01:51 AM #3 of 169
Don't pin this on me, Pangalin. Miles is in charge of finances for both Gamingforce and VGMdb.

I don't think it's in our best interests financially to split. It's going to hurt us both, and we'll both be scrambling to find new support.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Feb 15, 2009, 04:12 PM #4 of 169
I can say that, from the VGMdb side, we've (or at least I have) had the exact same concerns as you about the shared hosting. I'm encouraged to see that any rifts we have can mostly be solved by communication and openness. Actually, I'd prefer the whole monthly balance sheet -- income and expenses -- to be public, especially since people are asked to donate from time to time. But I've never seen this done on a private site, so there's probably some reason.

About the concert hall: if GFF really doesn't want it anymore, I would envision a move to .com as a temporary solution, and think that the CH regulars need to pick up the ball and run with it. Perhaps a few of them could obtain some hosting and start their own site. But at this point, I don't think anyone there even knows that the move is coming, so someone needs to start this conversation in CH.

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Old Feb 16, 2009, 09:43 AM 2 #5 of 169
All of these analogies seem kind of silly and not really accurate.

The Concert Hall was created because people here were interested in classical music and performance. It grew on its own over the years because it was of value. I know we had crossover members back then (Face, Minion, someone else whose name I can't remember) who have since left. So it's not some group of gypsies that took up residence out of nowhere. We fostered it when we had an interest in doing so.

So, I don't the level of rage against CH (unless this is some backhanded overreaction to Minion.) They just need a gentle push to move off on their own, and I think they'll be fine.

Also, come on Shin. You need to boil your thoughts down to something more concise and readable, especially for us Americans.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Feb 16, 2009, 09:59 AM 3 #6 of 169
Where does it say that someone has to make a contribution worthy of Lehah's seal of approval in order to not be considered a dickhole around here?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Feb 16, 2009, 10:22 AM #7 of 169
Our card catalog site (VGMdb) has about 40,000 scans now, and that number is growing steadilly. Eventually we will have to upgrade our plan to get more space. Based on current trends, VGMdb is going to consume the lion's share of space and maybe BW no matter what, and that's something we'll have to come to terms with. We've been toying with the idea of putting up some kinds of retailer purchase links on some of the albums to help recoup some of the costs, but that's still in the idea stage.

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Old Feb 16, 2009, 10:29 AM #8 of 169
You do have links up telling people to come and join this message board, right?
Well, I still haven't done a bona fide links page, but I do give the GFF link with a kind of shout out.

About Us - VGMdb

Dang, it looks like I'm just as wordy as Shin.

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