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Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
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Old Jun 5, 2006, 06:16 AM Local time: Jun 5, 2006, 11:16 AM #1 of 92
Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest

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I really liked the first one, so I hope they don't botch up this one. Not so sure about the squiddy people, but still I could be proven wrong when I see the full thing.

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Old Jun 5, 2006, 06:30 AM Local time: Jun 5, 2006, 06:30 AM #2 of 92
I enjoy the idea of Jack Sparrow battling Cthulhu spawn.

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Old Jun 6, 2006, 04:31 PM Local time: Jun 6, 2006, 02:31 PM #3 of 92
The first one is definitely one of my favorite movies ever. Easily, I'm not gonna hold the second one to such high expectations, but it should still be a blasty blast. Who knows? It might be freaking awesome as well. Can't wait.

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Old Jun 6, 2006, 04:41 PM Local time: Jun 6, 2006, 11:41 AM #4 of 92
Yeah, the first one really surprised me as being that good. In fact kairyu and I got a lot of qoutes from it, mostly him though.

Hope the second one is just as good, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up

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Old Jun 6, 2006, 07:47 PM Local time: Jun 7, 2006, 01:47 AM #5 of 92
The second film could never be as good as the first, could it? It does look rather good though. Roll on 7/7/06 (UK)
The first film is one of my favourite films, and i'm just hoping that they "don't do a matrix" and buggar it up with the last two.

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Old Jun 6, 2006, 11:39 PM #6 of 92
I lol'ed at some of Jack's lines--who wouldn't? And, to be honest, it looks like the character hasn't changed at all from the first movie (it's been known to happen).

But, seeing as how Jerry Bruckheimer has been consistently good with CSI and those recurring characters, I'd say we can expect this movie to be good.

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Old Jun 7, 2006, 01:06 AM Local time: Jun 7, 2006, 05:06 PM #7 of 92
Ha! Jerry Bruckheimer and good just don't go together.

Jerry Bruckheimer and large explosions, however...

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Old Jun 7, 2006, 06:57 AM Local time: Jun 7, 2006, 11:57 AM #8 of 92
Well hopefully this one will be a good sequel, because they already have a third planned, yup a Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy. However the way they will end the 3rd will be a closed ending, because they don't intend on doing a 4th unless someone else wanted to take on the challenge. They based the villains in the film on an actual myth, which I find quite interesting since their take on the villain being a half man half sea creature, instead of a more human based villain.

Davy Jones as the main villain should be cool, since there were already references to it in the first, such as "Davy Jones' locker". The whole idea of the story is that Jack made a bargain with Davy Jones to be captain of the Black Pearl, so that's why he was so obsessed with it in the first movie since it's apart of a bargain. I read this in a magazine and I don't quite remember the full details, i'll dig it out when I can be bothered.

So yeah, expect a third movie next summer.

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Old Jun 8, 2006, 01:24 AM Local time: Jun 7, 2006, 10:24 PM #9 of 92
I'm just worried that they'll try to make this one dramatic or take itself too seriously. I saw the trailer and had to groan; everything's trying to look like Lord of the Rings these days.

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Old Jun 12, 2006, 03:17 PM Local time: Jun 12, 2006, 11:17 PM #10 of 92
if it has johnny dep back again then it is sure to be great! and he is coming back so the movie is success before it even gets out!

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Old Jun 13, 2006, 02:54 PM Local time: Jun 13, 2006, 01:54 PM #11 of 92
I'm looking forward to this. I've seen the first one at least 20 times now, five of which were in theatres. As long as there's ample story connections throughout all three i'm happy. I see this movie going very well, would've been better though if Keith Richards had accepted the offer to be in it.

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Old Jun 13, 2006, 04:04 PM Local time: Jun 13, 2006, 01:04 PM #12 of 92
The trailer seemed interesting. I've only seen the first movie once, but I remember that I didn't find it dull. Compared to the other movies released around that same time, it was certainly more entertaining for me.

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Old Jun 13, 2006, 05:43 PM #13 of 92
From what I've seen of the new movie, it appears to have nice balance of humor and drama, something the previous one specialized in. So, I'm expecting something enjoyable, even if it's not as good as its predecessor.

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Old Jun 13, 2006, 05:57 PM Local time: Jun 13, 2006, 10:57 PM #14 of 92
I've been looking forward to this so much. It's got potential, good actors and what seems to be a good storyline, so it should be a pretty damn enjoyable movie. Even if it doesn't live up to the first one, I'm sure it will be a gripping movie anyway.

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Old Jul 6, 2006, 08:33 AM Local time: Jul 7, 2006, 12:33 AM #15 of 92
Bumpage, and impressions.



Definitely a fun ride. Not much introduction to the characters, assuming knowledge of the original, and doesn't take long till some action spars. Strangely enough, as some things feel tighter in execution, others seem to be loosened in anticipation for the third film. While things are happening, the overall plot doesn't get started until a ways in, and doesn't have the climax that made the first film so exciting. Supposedly to do with these two part films, so hoping everything clicks together eventually.

The usuals are as good as ever though- Depp hasn't been saturated throughout the film, thankfully. The score, while more subdued than the first, seems ultimately more thought out. I was surprised to see some guitars in the action scenes, similar to what Greg Edmonson did for the Firefly soundtrack. Me likes the parts which remind me of Monkey Island too (though that was based on the ride as well).

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Old Jul 6, 2006, 04:42 PM Local time: Jul 6, 2006, 04:42 PM #16 of 92
I just watched Pirates 1 for the first time this weekend. Good movie with an excellent soundtrack and interesting premise.

Guess I will go see this one tomorrow morning then. Trailer looks good.

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Old Jul 6, 2006, 05:01 PM Local time: Jul 6, 2006, 04:01 PM #17 of 92
Originally Posted by Helloween
I see this movie going very well, would've been better though if Keith Richards had accepted the offer to be in it.
Well, he's not in this one that's coming out now, but on the news yesterday they said he's set to be in the third one. This article from Reuters is the only reliable source I have on that info, though. Nothing set in stone. It would be awesome if it came to be!!

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Old Jul 6, 2006, 07:05 PM Local time: Jul 6, 2006, 06:05 PM #18 of 92
It's too bad that Keith Richards could literally keel over and die at any moment. How he is still alive is a mystery to civilized society. Hopefully he'll survive long enough to make a cameo appearance in a potentially entertaining film.

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Old Jul 6, 2006, 07:16 PM Local time: Jul 6, 2006, 06:16 PM #19 of 92
Originally Posted by russ
It's too bad that Keith Richards could literally keel over and die at any moment. How he is still alive is a mystery to civilized society. Hopefully he'll survive long enough to make a cameo appearance in a potentially entertaining film.
Quite the contrary. Nothing short of a nuclear bomb or Jack Bauer can kill Richards now. He's immune to just about anything.

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Old Jul 7, 2006, 12:21 AM Local time: Jul 6, 2006, 10:21 PM #20 of 92
I saw this earlier today, and I thought it was absolute genius.

It does drag on a bit, and I'm not a huge fan of the cliffhanger ending, despite a nice surprise at the end, but on a whole I loved the movie. The movie assumes that everyone on the planet saw POTC1, so it really jumps right into the action. The one swordfight on the wheel was pure genius, and the Kraken is awesome.

But goddamn, I can't wait for POTC3. God-fucking-damn.

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Old Jul 7, 2006, 02:10 AM #21 of 92
What surprised me the most about this movie is how dark it is. This is definitely an intense storyline, at least when compared to the first movie. It wasn't until the final sword fight sequence did the movie ever feel like the original.

However, it is still a great movie. The crowd I saw it with was really into it, and I think most people came out of the theater happy.

Also, I can't wait for the calls of racism to roar soon.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Jul 7, 2006, 09:43 AM #22 of 92
Originally Posted by rockthepartay
What surprised me the most about this movie is how dark it is. This is definitely an intense storyline, at least when compared to the first movie. It wasn't until the final sword fight sequence did the movie ever feel like the original.

However, it is still a great movie. The crowd I saw it with was really into it, and I think most people came out of the theater happy.

Also, I can't wait for the calls of racism to roar soon.
Why what happens in the movie that would be racist to some people?

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Old Jul 7, 2006, 12:34 PM #23 of 92
If it happened with King Kong for a ficitional tribe, it will definitely happen with this movie. In Dead Man's Chest, the natives are cannibals and they are dark skinned. That's the gist of it.

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Basically, the natives think Sparrow is a God and that they eat their Gods to release them from their flesh. Sparrow is given a necklace made out of human toes and the cages that Turner and the rest of the crew are captured in are human bones. As everyone escaped the island, the dog with the keys is left behind and the natives begin to chase after it.

There is a post-credit sequence that kind of resolves what happens to the dog, but I can only imagine that it will anger more people.


I may as well add that in this movie, Sparrow has less one-liners, or at least jokes that are actually funny. It is more his actions that bring the comedy, and for me, some of it was kind of forced. But don't get me wrong. Jack Sparrow carries this movie.

I'll have to see it again. It took multiple viewings of the original for me to fully appreciate it, and I feel that this movie deserves the same treatment.

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Old Jul 7, 2006, 12:57 PM Local time: Jul 7, 2006, 12:57 PM #24 of 92
Originally Posted by rockthepartay
If it happened with King Kong for a ficitional tribe, it will definitely happen with this movie. In Dead Man's Chest, the natives are cannibals and they are dark skinned. That's the gist of it.

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Basically, the natives think Sparrow is a God and that they eat their Gods to release them from their flesh. Sparrow is given a necklace made out of human toes and the cages that Turner and the rest of the crew are captured in are human bones. As everyone escaped the island, the dog with the keys is left behind and the natives begin to chase after them.
There are schools of thought that say that any adventure movie has some amount of post-colonial imperialism in it. I don't feel like getting into a great amount of detail with you, since you've already made up your mind, but this runs over the basics.

Suffice it to say that the tribe in the movie is shown as culturally distinct only in that they are an antagonistic force. They are there to be in opposition to everything euro-centric.

And yes, the movie was fun, exciting, and very well executed. That doesn't mean it doesn't lean on some distinctly rickety thought processes. (Natives! Better run, they must be cannibals! Obviously!)

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Old Jul 7, 2006, 01:06 PM #25 of 92
Skexis, I remember our debate with King Kong. I was going to mention the post-colonial idea, but I knew you or someone would fill in the gap.

Anyway, about the movie. I might as well add that they did go over the top with the special effects. You know when you see

Spoiler:
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in a pirate movie that they are going out of control. At least the special effects in this film are absolutely amazing, and Davy Jones is easily the best CGI character.

And man, Davy Jones! Great villain!

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