Hulk re-do

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index...d=36670&type=0

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"I loved the Hulk movie. It was just a different approach, and it wasn't exactly the comic,(...)"

Ok, this is beyond stupidity. We've come so far that now we will have a remake for a 3 years old movie (which was far from being bad IMHO). Somebody kills Arad while it's still time, he's like a little kid who likes to break his pretty toys. And a budget of 150m was a little bit expensive for a draft, no ?
At least maybe with this "re-do", it will be the occasion to see that Hulk wasn't a so terrible movie.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Is that why the Bana one's generally trashed? Because it wasn't the comic, stroke for stroke? Because that's a fucking godsend for any film adaptation, and something of which we need shitloads more.

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They do it with asian movies all the time, why not with their own?
Doesn't suprise me.
And, I like the Hulk movie pretty much. Can't really understand why people hate it so much...
For example, most say they like it WORSE than Daredevil...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

For once I agree with Cal. While there were a lot of missteps in the Ang Lee movie, there were moments of sheer inspiration that outstripped parts of the best comic book movies like Batman Begins.

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The stupid thing is that no one is going to go see this movie.

No one wants to see a retelling of the Hulk story so soon. Maybe if this producer wanted to remake the movie in another 10-15 years...

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I dont even know if they could do one, given that they're opted to make a Hulk 2 that Eric Bana is contracted to be a part of.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

To be honest, I haven't seen the Ang Lee movie. I do think it's a great thing though that people actually care enough about the comic book source material for this to even possibly even happen. Think back to Batman Forever and Batman & Robin. I think it's a great thing for comic book movies and comics in general that this sort of attention is being paid to the source material.

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Originally Posted by DATAGONK

I think it's a great thing for comic book movies and comics in general that this sort of attention is being paid to the source material.

Its a thin line to walk. Internet nerds who scream about continuity with books, video games and comics are amongst the least educated you can find.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Oh sure, a scene for scene exact reproduction of a comic book (or novel or short story) would be pretty boring, and not to mention extremely long. Plus, film is a different media—you need to adapt the concept.

But this is a far cry from something like Batman Forever. Oh lordy.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by DATAGONK

Batman & Robin

I read that Joel Schumacher bears utter contempt for the franchise, and that B&R was a malicious pisstake.

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Batman Forever as well. Although I didn't want to bring it up...

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Originally Posted by BigHairyFeet

Don't try and distance yourself from that group, I've seen you discussing the Star Wars canon before, you're lumped in with the rest of us.

Usually to chide Lucasfilm's idiotic "levels of canon" bullshit. Yes, I talk about it but only as far as that the films, movie novelizations and radio dramas are the only canon in existence. Everything else is just fapping for fanboys.

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Originally Posted by Cal

Is that why the Bana one's generally trashed? Because it wasn't the comic, stroke for stroke? Because that's a fucking godsend for any film adaptation, and something of which we need shitloads more.

What about Sin City?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by LeHah

Usually to chide Lucasfilm's idiotic "levels of canon" bullshit. Yes, I talk about it but only as far as that the films, movie novelizations and radio dramas are the only canon in existence. Everything else is just fapping for fanboys.

What. That makes no sense. The radio dramas? They are fantastic and all—in fact I have the scripts to them and recordings (on cassette though) sitting on the shelf next to me—but I don't see how they're in any way more cannon than anything else produced not by Lucas.

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Originally Posted by Eleo

What about Sin City?

Well, Sin City had the original artist & writer (Frank Miller) co-directing. There isn't a whole lot you can argue in terms of artistic intent there.

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What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by DATAGONK

What. That makes no sense. The radio dramas? They are fantastic and all—in fact I have the scripts to them and recordings (on cassette though) sitting on the shelf next to me—but I don't see how they're in any way more cannon than anything else produced not by Lucas.

The radio dramas were personally sanctioned by Lucas when the movies first came out. They handed Brian Daily the original scripts for him to "translate" into radio dramas (forcing him to write both expanded scenes and exposition). Hence - they're completely canon.

EDIT: By Radio Dramas, I mean the ones based on the original trilogy, not the Jedi Knight/Dark Empire/etc series

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Originally Posted by LeHah

The radio dramas were personally sanctioned by Lucas when the movies first came out. They handed Brian Daily the original scripts for him to "translate" into radio dramas (forcing him to write both expanded scenes and exposition). Hence - they're completely canon.

EDIT: By Radio Dramas, I mean the ones based on the original trilogy, not the Jedi Knight/Dark Empire/etc series

Right, I was talking about the Brian Daley ones. If you'll remember though the ROTJ Radio Drama didn't come out until 1996.

"Personally sanctioned by Lucas." What? How is that any different from the status of the original Timothy Zahn trilogy?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

If we could avoid the Big Lucas and SW discussion, I'd be glad. Does it always end like speaking about lightsabers, or ?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by DATAGONK

Right, I was talking about the Brian Daley ones. If you'll remember though the ROTJ Radio Drama didn't come out until 1996.

It's still from the original Lucas/Kasdan screenplay, though.

Originally Posted by DATAGONK

"Personally sanctioned by Lucas." What? How is that any different from the status of the original Timothy Zahn trilogy?

Excellent question.

Zahn's is simply an "offically licensed" product. He's able to write a Star Wars novel, sell it and make money from it without Lucasfilm suing his ass. Remember that dumb bitch that sold her Star Wars fanfiction on Amazon.com? Thats the difference.

As for the offically sanctioned question...

From the Star Wars Radio Drama Boxed Set - "The radio project offically began when Star Wars creator George Lucas donated the story rights to KUSC-FM, the National Public Radio affliliate of his alma-mater..." (He also sold KUSC the ability to use all the SFX and music from the Star Wars movies for a dollar)

It's been clairified a couple of other times by interviews with LucasLicensing - including one especially boring and detailed interview in Star Wars Galaxies - I think you can find a copy of that interview on the internet somewhere.

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Last post by me in this microthread:

I was under the impression that Lucasfilm granted licenses to each book when the story idea was pitched to them. If they didn't like the story ("We kill everyone and introduce brand new characters named Tidus, Squall and Cloud"), they could reject it.

I see your point about the Daley scripts being written from the original screenplays, but that still doesn't mean they are cannon the same way the movie is. From what you're saying, NPR/Daley had creative control, not Lucas, which, IMHO, at least, excludes it from a "strict" definition of cannon.

If LeHah wants to continue this, can we get a split?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

We'll continue this in PM

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To get back on topic, I would actually like to see a re-do of The Hulk. It would be interesting to see how audiences would respond to it coming out so soon, and it would be especially interesting if deviated hugely from Ang Lee's version (not necessarily by sticking closer to the comics, but that's one possibility).

From what I remember about the trailers, my main gripe was the hugeness of The Hulk. I'm not 100% familiar with it, but doesn't the hulk only become slightly bigger than the average human when he transforms (which is how he's still able to wear the same pants)?

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I think the Hulk's size has changed with time - remember when Sentinels first came out in X-Men they were only 10 feet tall or so? Also - I think that the madder Hulk gets, the bigger he gets. Or something.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Yup I didn't read the old comic books, but I heard that he's never get bigger, the angrier he get's, the stronger. The normal savage Hulk is 7'2, The Grey Hulk 6'6, and the Professor is about 7'6. But after time, looks like he was drawned bigger in the comic books, compared to his earlier days. The angrier the bigger is something related to the movie, which doesn't bother me as long as he's not Galactus sized.

P.S. : Thanks both of you for being civilized ppl.

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I liked the Hulk movie for the most part. I think it's way too soon to do a remake of it already (yeah, definitely wait at least 10-20 years before you do a remake of a film).

Makes you wonder if Hollywood is running low on good scripts or something lol.

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Originally Posted by LeHah

I dont even know if they could do one, given that they're opted to make a Hulk 2 that Eric Bana is contracted to be a part of.

Apparently not given that Bana's contract was with Universal and since this "do-over" is one of the first Marvel in-house pictures his contract is void.

Cinescape has something about this including new candidates for Bruce Banner that they're looking for to replace Bana with...Brendan Fraser...among those in the running:
http://www.cinescape.com/0/editorial...8&obj_id=51641

So no Jennifer Connelly? Fuck that shit.

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