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Old Jun 23, 2006, 01:47 AM Local time: Jun 22, 2006, 10:47 PM #1 of 15
PS2 connection to PC

I currently purchased a TV tuner card, however, the card only has a S-video port, and I have no idea how I can hook up the video and the two audio cables from my PS2 onto the tuner card, I searched around the net, but I haven't found an answer to my noob problem, can anyone enlighten me? Thanks in advance.

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Old Jun 23, 2006, 04:44 PM Local time: Jun 23, 2006, 02:44 PM #2 of 15
You sure it's not an S-video Out port?

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Old Jun 24, 2006, 02:50 PM #3 of 15
Hey there,

I just joined this site (as you can see I haven't setup my profile yet). But anyway I also have a PC TV-Tuner and I have plugged my PS2 into it before. Unfortunately, it's no good for gaming though. There is a signal delay so basically you'll hit a button on the PS2 controller but you won't see the action on the screen for another two seconds. This makes it VERY hard to play games.

However, it is still good for recording video off of your PS2 games. For example, I had a friend who recorded all of the Final Fantasy X FMVs by using my PC TV Tuner. So here's how you do it:

1. In your case, you need a PS2 cable with a S-Video cable instead of the yellow cable that the Playstation 2 comes with. These are usually easy to find.
2. If your TV Tuner has 2 audio inputs (one for left and one for right) you can just plug the PS2 cable's audio cords into those. If your TV Tuner only has one audio input (usually it's a headphone-style input), you will need to get a stereo mini-to-RCA cable and plug the PS2's audio cords into one end and plug the other end into your Tuner.

Like I said though, I'm pretty sure all video capture devices have a signal delay on them just because it takes time to digitize the image so it's almost useless for playing games, but it can be very helpful in recording video from a game.

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Old Jun 24, 2006, 04:41 PM Local time: Jun 24, 2006, 01:41 PM #4 of 15
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You sure it's not an S-video Out port?
I'm sure of it, it doesn't have other ports on the card.

Originally Posted by MaximoffZero
Hey there,

I just joined this site (as you can see I haven't setup my profile yet). But anyway I also have a PC TV-Tuner and I have plugged my PS2 into it before. Unfortunately, it's no good for gaming though. There is a signal delay so basically you'll hit a button on the PS2 controller but you won't see the action on the screen for another two seconds. This makes it VERY hard to play games.

However, it is still good for recording video off of your PS2 games. For example, I had a friend who recorded all of the Final Fantasy X FMVs by using my PC TV Tuner. So here's how you do it:

1. In your case, you need a PS2 cable with a S-Video cable instead of the yellow cable that the Playstation 2 comes with. These are usually easy to find.
2. If your TV Tuner has 2 audio inputs (one for left and one for right) you can just plug the PS2 cable's audio cords into those. If your TV Tuner only has one audio input (usually it's a headphone-style input), you will need to get a stereo mini-to-RCA cable and plug the PS2's audio cords into one end and plug the other end into your Tuner.

Like I said though, I'm pretty sure all video capture devices have a signal delay on them just because it takes time to digitize the image so it's almost useless for playing games, but it can be very helpful in recording video from a game.
Thanks for your reply, MaximoffZero. I guess I'll need to buy a PS2 S-video cable first...

Part of the reason why I want to hook my PS2 onto a computer's TV card is because I wanna capture some gameplay videos. However, from what you said, besides capturing FMVs, the signal delay seems to be really distractive... so no matter what kind of software I use (like Dscaler), it's going to give me the same result? I haven't seen many people mentioning this issue, so I'd like to know more about it before I spend the money on cables and other accessories.

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Old Jun 24, 2006, 05:09 PM #5 of 15
I went through the trouble to do this when I got my new FPW a few weeks ago and I agree with MaximoffZero; it isn't worth it. After a lot of research on the matter I found nothing that would indicate the existance of any cords or fixes to rectify the problem. I think you'll just have to deal with the 2S difference or just not bother with it alltogether.

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Old Jun 24, 2006, 05:10 PM Local time: Jun 24, 2006, 03:10 PM #6 of 15
Originally Posted by MaximoffZero
Hey there,

I just joined this site (as you can see I haven't setup my profile yet). But anyway I also have a PC TV-Tuner and I have plugged my PS2 into it before. Unfortunately, it's no good for gaming though. There is a signal delay so basically you'll hit a button on the PS2 controller but you won't see the action on the screen for another two seconds. This makes it VERY hard to play games.

However, it is still good for recording video off of your PS2 games. For example, I had a friend who recorded all of the Final Fantasy X FMVs by using my PC TV Tuner. So here's how you do it:

1. In your case, you need a PS2 cable with a S-Video cable instead of the yellow cable that the Playstation 2 comes with. These are usually easy to find.
2. If your TV Tuner has 2 audio inputs (one for left and one for right) you can just plug the PS2 cable's audio cords into those. If your TV Tuner only has one audio input (usually it's a headphone-style input), you will need to get a stereo mini-to-RCA cable and plug the PS2's audio cords into one end and plug the other end into your Tuner.

Like I said though, I'm pretty sure all video capture devices have a signal delay on them just because it takes time to digitize the image so it's almost useless for playing games, but it can be very helpful in recording video from a game.

Oh yeah, sure is a gigantic delay in games. I mean, I couldn't possibly be playing Ace Combat 5 right now through a TV tuner!

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Oh crap, I guess the signal delay is so big I couldn't possibly play Kingdom Hearts either!



Sorry, only some cards have the signal delay. More so if you use shit software to capture the image. (Yes, those images are me playing fast paced games just fine through Dscaler)

Look, if you want to connect your PS2 to a computer and have a decent quality picture you need to go download Dscaler. Then go and buy a tuner card it supports. Go here to check and see if the capture card you use is supported. http://deinterlace.sourceforge.net/c...port/index.htm

You'll need the PS2 S-Video cable to connect it to your capture card. Some have composite in but using this will make it look like total, and utter crap. If you want any kind of decent picture you will use a S-Video cable.

Once you have both of these just choose your Tuner card and select a de-interlace method. I use Greedy2Frame but Tomsmocomp is the prettiest. It will actually cover up some of the horrible aliasing the PS2 has. There are also a few filters you can use. I use Gamma, Brightness, Temporal noise reduction, and Sharpness myself. Just remember that with each filter you add the more load you will put on your CPU. If your computer is weaker you might find Dscaler dropping alot of frames so your video feed will skip. Since you plan to capture video of your games this might be a bit too much.

Personally, I use a cheapo Winfast TV2000. It works just fine and despite what MaximoffZero said there is no signal delay. In reality, the only thing that will be causing any delay is you recording video as you play. You can have Dscaler record as you play but it will be terribly laggy, depending on the type of hardware you have. A weaker processor or slower Harddrive is obviously going to slow things down.

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Old Jun 24, 2006, 08:43 PM Local time: Jun 25, 2006, 12:13 PM #7 of 15
I had this going back in the days with a 3dfx Voodoo 3 3500 with the built in TV tuner, so I don't see why it can't be done with a dedicated TV tuner 6 years later.

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Old Jun 25, 2006, 12:28 PM #8 of 15
Hmmm. That's interesting. I'll have to look at that Descaler program. I have a Hauppage WinTV tuner and I was just using the software it came with. I definitely have a fast enough computer (AMD 64 3200+, 2 GB RAM, 256 MB PCI-Express Video) so that shouldn't be a problem. Try shonos' suggestion, yangxu. See if it works for you.

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Old Jun 29, 2006, 08:26 PM Local time: Jun 29, 2006, 06:26 PM #9 of 15
I also have the WIN TV Tuner Card and I can get video but no audio. I know I have everything connected OK because I get audio when it is in TV mode. If anyone has any suggestion I will take them. I am going to continue playing around with it and see

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 03:22 PM #10 of 15
Originally Posted by Shonos
Personally, I use a cheapo Winfast TV2000. It works just fine and despite what MaximoffZero said there is no signal delay. In reality, the only thing that will be causing any delay is you recording video as you play. You can have Dscaler record as you play but it will be terribly laggy, depending on the type of hardware you have. A weaker processor or slower Harddrive is obviously going to slow things down.
How is the picture quality compared to what you would see on a TV using the PS2s standard composite cables? Right now I'm using an XRGB 2+ to play my PS2 through an LCD monitor using the PS2 D-Terminal cable. Using the standard composite cable, and then switching to S-Video cables, the picture quality through the XRGB was pretty bad. Using the D-Terminal, however, the picture is really good - much better than what I was getting on my TV.

So how do you like the picture that you get through your TV Tuner, and how is the sound? And is there ANY noticable signal delay? I know you said that it was playable, but do you notice any delay at all? I ask because I'm going to college soon, and I don't want to bring my XRGB with me. If a TV Tuner card will yield similar quality for less money, then I might get one.

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 03:24 PM #11 of 15
Hmmm, I've always had a question about hooking up my PS2 to my computer.

I have a BFG 6800GT OC with S-Video input only. I have a Soundblaster Audigy 5.1, so I'm assuming I'd need the aforementioned stereo mini-to-RCA adapter. I have 2 questions from this: Would I still be able to capture through programs like Dscaler, or do I need to find another program? And how would I go about capturing and matching audio from the sound card, does Dscaler do that?

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 03:48 PM Local time: Jun 30, 2006, 01:48 PM #12 of 15
Originally Posted by Radical
How is the picture quality compared to what you would see on a TV using the PS2s standard composite cables? Right now I'm using an XRGB 2+ to play my PS2 through an LCD monitor using the PS2 D-Terminal cable. Using the standard composite cable, and then switching to S-Video cables, the picture quality through the XRGB was pretty bad. Using the D-Terminal, however, the picture is really good - much better than what I was getting on my TV.

So how do you like the picture that you get through your TV Tuner, and how is the sound? And is there ANY noticable signal delay? I know you said that it was playable, but do you notice any delay at all? I ask because I'm going to college soon, and I don't want to bring my XRGB with me. If a TV Tuner card will yield similar quality for less money, then I might get one.
The picture is pretty good. As long as you use an S-Video cable the picture will look better than it does on a regular definition TV. The only problem is that by using your computer monitor you show off all the ugly aliasing the PS2 has. But you'd get the same if you hooked the PS2 up to a higher definition television. And you probably already get that with your VGA box so.. you know this. Dscaler has filters you can use to improve the picture as well. (and some of its de-interlace methods can smooth the jagginess) But like I said in my previous post, this does eat more of your CPU.

I don't notice any signal delay at all. Really, I play fast action paced games all the time, like SC2 and 3, AC 4 and 5, KH 1 and 2 and I don't get any delay. It really depends on the card you get and the software you use.

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Hmmm, I've always had a question about hooking up my PS2 to my computer.

I have a BFG 6800GT OC with S-Video input only. I have a Soundblaster Audigy 5.1, so I'm assuming I'd need the aforementioned stereo mini-to-RCA adapter. I have 2 questions from this: Would I still be able to capture through programs like Dscaler, or do I need to find another program? And how would I go about capturing and matching audio from the sound card, does Dscaler do that?
I don't think Dscaler will work with that card. You can check or try it out but I highly doubt it will work. Dscaler only supports a few chipsets, like the BT8x8, SAA7134, SAA7130, and one or two more I cant think of.

As for recording sound while you record video you can set Dscaler to use sound input from different sources. So if you go the mini-to-RCA route you'll probably have to set Dscaler to use the Line in or Mic jacks. If you just want sound while you play then you can plug it into Line in or Mic and you'll get sound if Windows has them enabled.

I've got a Sounblaster with a breakout box so I just hook up my consoles directly into the box for my audio. But I'm pretty sure it will still work with the mini-to-RCA adapter.

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Old Jul 1, 2006, 03:36 AM #13 of 15
That sounds pretty good. I know what you mean with the aliasing, though. You really realize how bad it is when you see it on a high resolution screen.

So I've got another question now. Where do you plug the two sound leads coming from the console? You said you plug yours into your soundcards breakout box, but does your soundcard have inputs for both of those (left and right) leads? My sound card (Chaintech AV 710) doesn't have any inputs like that.

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Old Jul 1, 2006, 01:28 PM Local time: Jul 1, 2006, 11:28 AM #14 of 15
Yes, it does on the box. But not the card itself. For most cards you'll need a mini to RCA adapter or cable to plug the console's cables into your computer. They're a few bucks at stores like radioshack. If you dont want to buy one you can always splice a cable together yourself. It doesn't really matter.

If your card happens to have Optical SPDIF input you can use that as well. Though, I'm not sure if the older PS2s have that capability. I know the smaller model does. You'll have the added bonus of Pro Logic II if your card supports it when you go this route, too. :P

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Old Jul 1, 2006, 01:35 PM #15 of 15
Only Sound Blaster cards with the breakout box (or the bay drive) have inputs for those two sound leads (I think you're talking about RCA inputs). Most cards only have mini-inputs (like headphone inputs). You need to plug in the left and right leads into a RCA-to-Mini cable and plug that cable into your PC. The cable will have female RCA connections on one end (that is, they will be holes to plug into instead of actual plugs) and the other end there will be a mini-input connector. These cables are very cheap and they can be found at Radio Shack or any kind of store like that. As with almost anything, you can also buy them online.

And I know what you guys mean about the PS2 image quality. I have my Playstation 2 hooked up to an HDTV via component video (which is said to be the best analog input). It looks horrible. It makes me want to turn the game off and play my PC games more. lol. Yes, you do get better picture, but it's so good it reveals all the flaws. That 1080p Playstaion 3 can come anyday it wants. lol

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