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Old Apr 15, 2006, 02:36 AM Local time: Apr 15, 2006, 12:36 AM #1 of 37
To Buy or to Burn.

I am not sure if this is supposed to be an unspoken topic here, but here goes...

Originally in Gaming, I was wondering if because mod chips and other such modifications were available people were more inclined to simply get games online or not. The fact of the matter is some people are by nature collectors and so the fact that they are available at a much, ahem, lower price is irrelevant.

But since it could be more broad and since other media doesn't usually require anything other than the default playing equipment, I was wondering if people here were more collectors or more, I suppose, prudent with their money. Not the best way to phrase the latter since it casts a negative light on the former, but yeah.

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Old Apr 15, 2006, 08:52 AM #2 of 37
In my opinion, if a game isn't worth $50 of your money, then how can it be worth even 5 hours of your time?

I believe that if you enjoy a movie/album/game, you should pay for it. I guess it's easy for me to say, since I don't play many games.

I only play pirated games when it's no longer possible to get a copy of the original firsthand. For example, I tried Final Fantasy VII for the first time just yesterday.

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Old Apr 15, 2006, 10:54 AM #3 of 37
If imports diddnt cost so much and my demands wernt that high I guess I would buy all my stuff.

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Old Apr 15, 2006, 10:58 AM Local time: Apr 15, 2006, 09:58 AM #4 of 37
The only system I have modded is my Sega Saturn. And I love it to fucking death.

I might mod my PS2 whenever PS3 starts to creep out. But I dunno how reliable they are. I've heard that modding your PS2 leads to some compatability issues for some reason. I'd love to burn some copies of games that're almost impossible to track down these days.

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Old Apr 15, 2006, 02:17 PM #5 of 37
I condone pirating console games on the basis that if game makers wanted your money that bad they would neither create nor support game systems that have territorial lockout. I know there are plenty of people here in the US who would gladly buy some Japanese games if they would run on their PS2s, and I'm guessing the same is true for Japanese gamers and American made games. And the people who pirate games to laugh in the face of the law are just going to find ways anyway, so all that's being done is people who would buy the game can't. I seriously believe that console game manufacturers don't give a crap about making money on any game that isn't released in every country the console is sold nor do the makers of said games. Thus why I would never pirate a DS or GBA game but would feel completely right in pirating a PS2 game.

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Old Apr 15, 2006, 03:13 PM #6 of 37
I've only recently started pirating games on my PS2. I will still buy games, but the ones that I just want to try will be burned. I already have the majority of games that I want for the system anyway. The ones that I'm burning now are mostly older games that are hard to find in my area. I'm not a fan of ordering stuff off of eBay.

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Old Apr 15, 2006, 03:16 PM Local time: Apr 15, 2006, 09:16 PM #7 of 37
Originally Posted by a_mcnugget
I've only recently started pirating games on my PS2.
Me too =o Sony is fucking stupid, no big fucking surprise everyone in Europe's gonna pirate PS2 computarsoftware that has already been released in the USA but will come to Europe like 15 months later (Kingdom Hearts II, ding~dong~ding~dong). I don't feel any guilt at all. If they come to my house I will sing them a fucking lullaby.

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Old Apr 15, 2006, 03:30 PM #8 of 37
Unless the game is amazing, I probably wouldn't buy it. Simply because I'm poor and can't afford 75$ games.

But if I saw Goldeneye, FFVII, Chrono Trigger, etc, I'd whip up the cash for it instantly.

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Old Apr 15, 2006, 03:32 PM Local time: Apr 15, 2006, 10:32 PM #9 of 37
Where do you see 75$ games? You can get most games used for twenty dollars, at most.

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Old Apr 15, 2006, 04:33 PM Local time: Apr 15, 2006, 03:33 PM #10 of 37
Originally Posted by ArrowHead
I only play pirated games when it's no longer possible to get a copy of the original firsthand. For example, I tried Final Fantasy VII for the first time just yesterday.
I have a hard time believing there's no other way to get a new copy of FF7...

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Old Apr 15, 2006, 06:11 PM Local time: Apr 16, 2006, 01:11 AM #11 of 37
I'm seen a number of used copies of FFVII... There are still a far number of them out there, so I don't really see why you couldn't find one. Check eBay if you can't find one locally.

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Old Apr 15, 2006, 07:20 PM Local time: Apr 15, 2006, 05:20 PM #12 of 37
Firsthand means NOT used, people. Get it through your heads.

And I'm a pretty strict believer in paying for games that I play. I'll only download games that I can't buy at reasonable prices (Suikoden 2, Valkyrie Profile, etc.), or I want to try before I buy. And I'm not a big fan of buying used games at all anyway, since not only do I not like having games in perfect condition, but the game developers get none of the money from sales of used games, which defeats the purpose of buying games in the first place.

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Old Apr 15, 2006, 07:36 PM #13 of 37
I'm talking about CND btw.

For example, Battlefield 2 Xbox is 75$ including tax.
Kingdom Hearts II for PS2 is 65$.

Same goes for most Gamecube games I see. After three or four games, I just payed for the system.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Apr 15, 2006, 08:03 PM Local time: Apr 16, 2006, 02:03 AM #14 of 37
I pirate the game and then donate the money it would have cost to an organisation of humanitarian aid workers in war torn regions of Africa.

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Old Apr 16, 2006, 02:35 AM Local time: Apr 15, 2006, 11:35 PM #15 of 37
I don't really pirate games anymore because I've found that if the game isn't worth forking out the money for the real thing then I'm probably going to get bored with it really soon, really making it not worth it to even download.

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Old Apr 16, 2006, 03:38 AM Local time: Apr 16, 2006, 09:38 AM #16 of 37
Originally Posted by splur
I'm talking about CND btw.
On a message board dominated by US Americans, you might as well make that clear right from the start

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Old Apr 16, 2006, 04:13 AM #17 of 37
Originally Posted by Gumby
I'm seen a number of used copies of FFVII... There are still a far number of them out there, so I don't really see why you couldn't find one. Check eBay if you can't find one locally.
Why buy a used copy when I can get a pirated version for free?

Remember the publishers aren't making any money when someone sells their old copy of FF7.

Originally Posted by a_tree
I don't really pirate games anymore because I've found that if the game isn't worth forking out the money for the real thing then I'm probably going to get bored with it really soon, really making it not worth it to even download.
My point exactly.

If it isn't worth my money then it isn't worth my time either.

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I'm talking about CND btw.
On a message board dominated by US Americans, you might as well make that clear right from the start.
I agree only while he/she has his/her location displayed as "United States Of America".

When I or an Australian talks about money, it should be taken for granted that we're talking CDN or Aussie dollars. We can't be assed to convert currencies for you if you can't be assed to do it too.

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Old May 17, 2006, 04:53 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 02:53 AM #18 of 37
Originally Posted by Yggdrasil
I don't really pirate games anymore because I've found that if the game isn't worth forking out the money for the real thing then I'm probably going to get bored with it really soon, really making it not worth it to even download.
Wow, you're really picky. I mean the attitude "It's free, I don't care" I can see, but it's already there and you still don't feel like it? Color me amazed.

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Old May 17, 2006, 06:51 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 06:51 AM #19 of 37
I tend to prefer retail myself, but wouldn't mind figuring out some way to organize all that into something more attractive than a castle tower stack.

Now anime on the other hand, I'm not about to reward companies for putting out absolutely shitty English dubs.

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Old May 17, 2006, 07:14 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 08:14 PM #20 of 37
If given the chance, I would buy an original game. But due to my poor economic stature, I resort to either downloaded games, or buying cheap pirated copies ($3 a disc). If you like the game, movie, or cd, better buy the original.

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Old May 17, 2006, 08:54 AM #21 of 37
Buying pirated copies? Heck download them!

As for Final Fantasy VII, I've seen a couple brand new ones (Greatest hits but that doesn't change anything, except the case.) so I doubt it's so hard to find.

I prefer pirating games. Unless I really like them of course, then I'll go buy them. And just think of Suikoden II which is around $150-$200 on eBay. I would NEVER pay that much for a game.

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Old May 17, 2006, 09:05 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 09:05 AM #22 of 37
I download the game, if I like it then I buy it... When the price drops. I aint paying more then 30 bucks for a game unless it's a pretty good game. The only time I spent 50 bucks for a game was for WoW.

Um, there aren't too many things I pirate that I could get imported unless it's a movie or anime. Then once it hits USA then I'll buy it. Samething with music really as well.(Yeah sorry off topic.)

The only thing I would like to do is buy a PS and mod it.(Since PS2, well, supposly it's hard to mod.) and I would want to download, burn and play old PS games I can't get cause I want Medieval but no one has it. ;____;

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Old May 17, 2006, 09:06 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 07:06 AM #23 of 37
For me, if it's really worth the money, i'll totally pay for it.
Something about having the actual case and booklet and
decorating my computer desk with it~ hahah geeky!

As for imports, the only games i've imported are Bemani.
Totally worth it ~

I'd buy more games if they were full of quality.
I just can't say that about too many games lately though...

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Old May 17, 2006, 10:10 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 03:10 PM #24 of 37
About 75% of my MP3 library comes from CDs I've bought myself.

I'll pay to go see a film in the cinema, but there's no fuggin' way I'm paying for a DVD.

As for games, I'll download them whenever I can. Never paid for a single Xbox title yet.

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Old May 17, 2006, 10:24 AM Local time: May 17, 2006, 10:24 AM #25 of 37
I think movies are the only thing I won't burn. I see them in the cinema, then buy the DVD but I usually wait cause then they are usually 5-15 dollars then.

Kinda like when I waited about 2 or more years for the gamecube/PS2, I got them dirt cheap new(by dirt cheap I mean atleast 100 dollars cheaper when they first came out.) and thier games dirt cheap rather new or not.

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