Rage Against the Machine

Yes, I'm aware they are broken up. I was a huge fan. When they broke up, the lead singer Zach, was supposed to go solo and do his own thing. Did he ever come out with anything? If so, where can I get it, and what's your opinion on it?

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I haven't heard anything from him. Why did the break up, anyway? Now if ever is a perfect time for rage against machines, yet there's not enough music angry at the world. It's quite a disappointment, considering how little time we have before the year 1984.

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Their Self-titled release was their only album worth caring about IMO. the Rest of their material just sounds like rehased shit with a little experimental guitar work on the side.

I agree with Audioslave, they are the worst thing ever to happen to music.

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Strangely I find a lot of artist's self-titled or first work is better than all of their future work. I don't know why this is, but it's true with some of my favorite musicians.

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Originally Posted by Eleo

Strangely I find a lot of artist's self-titled or first work is better than all of their future work. I don't know why this is, but it's true with some of my favorite musicians.

Your not alone, that is quite true with alot of bands i also dig. the first albums of alot of band's tend to be better then the rest of their work is because they are just starting and have that creative edge and energy that comes with starting a career in a band. Very few artists/groups ever record anything that eclipses their first or second album.

I was speaking idiomatically.

In complete agreement on the first album issue. Just the cover art alone on that project is one of the band's strongest statements.

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Can't stand their politics and can't stand Zach's repetitive vocals. IMO, every song I've heard sounds the same. Morello's a good guitarist though.

And Audioslave's only decent track was 'Cochise'.

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I have always like Evil Empire as their best album. Self-Titled is pretty good too. Oh yeah Delorean Zach did some self titled stuff I think he did one album. Now all I hear he is doing is putting on concerts for like Mexican Union workers or something.

Yeah I don't really like Audioslave either.

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The first album was probably the best, but the others each have at least three or four very good tracks as well.

As for Audioslave, it almost sounds like some emo band; I dunno what happened there. I like Doesn't Remind Me and Gasoline, though.

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Originally Posted by Iwata

Your not alone, that is quite true with alot of bands i also dig. the first albums of alot of band's tend to be better then the rest of their work is because they are just starting and have that creative edge and energy that comes with starting a career in a band. Very few artists/groups ever record anything that eclipses their first or second album.

Like Disturbed :aargh:

The last time I heard a Rage song - albiet it was old - was in the credits of one of the Matrix sequels (Reloaded I think). I like a lot of their songs, even if some of them are rehashed from the "originals".

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Originally Posted by Eleo

P.S. Audioslave rocks.

I haven't heard anything from him. Why did the break up, anyway? Now if ever is a perfect time for rage against machines, yet there's not enough music angry at the world. It's quite a disappointment, considering how little time we have before the year 1984.

There's plenty of music angry at the world. What's wrong is that there aren't any music that makes you want to take action in anything. That's what RATM's stance was, to take action. Do something. The debate as to wether or not politics should or shouldn't be in music is kinda dumb. You're gonna write what you're passionate about and if it happens to have political motives, then so be it.

I don't care much for Audioslave, I find their first album to be overall boring. However, the statement of them being the worst thing to happen to music is pretty fucking harsh and undeserving. I think bands like Limp Bizkit, Puddle of Mudd and other such bands deserve that title.

Either way, I enjoy RATM quite a bit, especially their first and last original album (Battle For Los Angeles). I like them for different reasons, mainly the first one is more hard rockin music while the last one became more experimental while still being rocking and original.

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RATM is ok. I've only heard them on the radio, so probably only their really big songs.

I agree that a lot of bands produce an amazing first album and then after that it's all dowhill. Disturbed was the supreme example of that, since their first album was beastly, and their next two were just mediocre (if even that.) A lot of times a band will have this one cd (not necessarily their first) but one cd that is just great, and after that they can't make anything to top it. Metallica for instance, their a great band overall, but ever since the Black Album, nothing of thiers has come close.

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I never like RATM because I don't like people "rapping" like zach did in songs.
And he couldn't refrain from saying : "UH!" about a thousand times in a song

I think audioslave is ok. Not something I listen every year but I don't mind it being on the radio or something.

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Originally Posted by Delorean

Did he ever come out with anything?

Not a full album that I'm aware of but he collaborated with DJ Shadow on one track which is pretty cool.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Rage Against the Machine was the stupidest thing I've ever heard in mainstream rock, right along with Master of Puppets by Metallica. It's almost like these 'artists' would choose the life of LOrd of the Flies over modern civilization. Morons.

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Only nu-metal band I've ever been able to like. They're not brilliant, but at least they're not Slipkorn of a Down.

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Originally Posted by Omega Weapon

Rage Against the Machine was the stupidest thing I've ever heard in mainstream rock, right along with Master of Puppets by Metallica. It's almost like these 'artists' would choose the life of LOrd of the Flies over modern civilization. Morons.

Uhh, what made you come to that conclusion?

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I think after Evil Empire, Rage's stuff got really lame, so I was a big fan but I was kind of glad they broke up if Battle of Los Angelos was a preview of what else was to come from them.

I'm actually glad that the rest of the band got together with Chris from Soundgarden b/c honestly, when they broke up I was sad about taht shit.

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Originally Posted by Aardark

Uhh, what made you come to that conclusion?

Also, what the fuck does it mean?

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Originally Posted by Omega Weapon

Rage Against the Machine was the stupidest thing I've ever heard in mainstream rock, right along with Master of Puppets by Metallica. It's almost like these 'artists' would choose the life of LOrd of the Flies over modern civilization. Morons.

You do know that Master of Puppets was about drug addiction, and not government oppression, right?

right?

Infact the only song on the entire album that has anything to do with politics is Disposable Heroes. And that's only about the governments treatment of soldiers.

Congratulations on not knowing what you are talking about.

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Rage Against The Machine will forever remain one of my favorite bands that everyone now reminisces about after their break up. Soundgarden is another one. Their self-titled debut was one of the most hard-hitting and most unique blend of metal and hip-hop.

Unfortunately the fire in Zach De La Rocha's belly died down over the course of the band's life. I think their downfall had a lot more to do with their success than it did with their political ideals and sooner or later the ship just sank. Still doesn't deter from the fact that they were at one point the ideal political voice for the mainstream youth. Few bands will ever achieve this.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Good riddance, I say. The lead singer's voice was even more annoying than Daron Malakian's (from System of a Down) and it seemed like they just picked 2 or 3 phrases for the entire song and repeated them over and over. And like Daxy said, the constant "UH!"s didn't help either.

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Well, off the top of my head, I'm really not sure what Zach’s doing now. I remember visiting the Definitive Jux website 3 (maybe 4) years ago, and noticing El-P was set to be producing Zach’s solo album. But I don’t know how far that went or whether it’s still in the works.

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He has a website, or a fansite, which might tell you more.

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Originally Posted by Furby

I think after Evil Empire, Rage's stuff got really lame, so I was a big fan but I was kind of glad they broke up if Battle of Los Angelos was a preview of what else was to come from them.

I'm actually glad that the rest of the band got together with Chris from Soundgarden b/c honestly, when they broke up I was sad about taht shit.

Gotta agree here. Evil empire is by far my favorite album by them. The first one is good, no doubt, but ee has a imperfect characterist about it that I love (that is, the production isn't "perfect" sounding, like most stuff out there today) I used to love Tom Morello's work, but man, after evil empire it seemed like everysong he had to come up with some new wierd effect to use as a solo, even if it was non-fitting (like most of it is with audioslave).

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Originally Posted by WolfDemon

Good riddance, I say. The lead singer's voice was even more annoying than Daron Malakian's (from System of a Down) and it seemed like they just picked 2 or 3 phrases for the entire song and repeated them over and over.

Try listening to songs like War Within a Breath, New Millenium Homes, Wake Up, Township Rebellion, and basically any other song they didn't release as a single. It sounds to me that you are basing your opinions on the few songs released for radio airplay, and if that is the case I see your point completely. However, many of their tracks revolve around a very fluid rhyme scheme and hardly contain any phrases that repeat.

I'll never forget the first time I heard of Rage Against the Machine. It was seeing their show on CNN that helped spark riots at some political convention in the late 90's. I thought to myself "wow, such impact all from a song" and was hooked from there.

And then there are lyrics such as:
"Like swollen stomachs
In Appalachia
Like the priest that fucked you
As he whispered holy things"

Words such as this invite social change and encourage listeners to think about it through the images they take away from the music. I know I did.

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