[PS3] I have to buy a PS3 (Disgaea 3)

Source

This is the only known information on the game so far.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

The lack of bump mapping, self-shadowing and bloom is very promising, but they could have just made proof of concept screens on the PSP.

Either way I'm glad I lready have one ready, then.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Qwarky

The lack of bump mapping, self-shadowing and bloom is very promising

Yeah, I too love buying 500-euro consoles to play games that look like they should be on PSX.

I mean, not that I don't like sprites, but it pretty much looks like Tales of Destiny that was released ten years ago on PSX. I guess the screenshots are from a PS2 or PSP version? There's no way they can release a game looking like that on PS3. Disgaea does seem like it would be better suited for a portable console (though I personally haven't played it, as I am not a weeaboo pedophile with 200 hours to spare for a single game).

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

This looks like extreme high definition graphics. The game will come on a double-layer Blu-Ray-DVD, no doubt.

edit: Aardark already beat me to the graphics joke. Oh Aardark~

Most amazing jew boots

Originally Posted by Aardark

I am not a weeaboo

:O! Terrible, terrible news!

As a certified weeaboo (but also not a huge fan of Disgaea), I have to say that this looks pretty lame. Why is it in 3D? The last one was in 2D, wasn't it? Why would they do that? And like, bad 3D at that, I thought sprites/3D went the way of the covered wagon.

On the other hand, that tower of people that's falling over in the second screenshot looks funny, at least. what the hell is going on there

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by surasshu

:O! Terrible, terrible news!

As a certified weeaboo (but also not a huge fan of Disgaea), I have to say that this looks pretty lame. Why is it in 3D? The last one was in 2D, wasn't it

The previous games had 2D sprites and dialogues with 3D grid-based battle levels. This game is also 2D.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Ah I guess it's just the quality of the screenshots then. =D

I've never cared much for the actual game but I always really liked the art, so it's good that that's preserved at least. I'm expecting another awesome artbook!

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Aardark

Yeah, I too love buying 500-euro consoles to play games that look like they should be on PSX.

Yeah, I can only feel my dark FPS and third-person action games are next-gen when everything glows and looks wrinkled!

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Maybe Nippon Itchy wants their small but dedicated fanbase to move to PS3 because their next NEXT game will be a totally cool first person shooter set in the bloomy gloomy future and everyone will want it!

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Or maybe they'll produce a game with Gonzo quality animation.... or not.

Seriously LOLin at those screenshots right now.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey

Maybe Nippon Itchy wants their small but dedicated fanbase to move to PS3 because their next NEXT game will be a totally cool first person shooter set in the bloomy gloomy future and everyone will want it!

Yeah, when towers of people collapse on unsuspecting victims! Hahahaha!

*looks at the second screenshot*

Erm...yes...indeed.

This doesn't really interest me too much, since I'm not planning on getting a PS3 until a $2 price reduction occurs after the $100,000 PS4 is released. Yes, the very thought of it irks excites me.

Good to see the Disgaea series live into other generations, though! Should be good. And I don't care what people say about the graphics I always found them adorable. <3

Most amazing jew boots

Does anyone think this will play any different from all the other NI games or should I just replay the first Disgaea instead of buying another again.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Yeah, that would probably be just about as good.

I kind of lost interest with Disgaea 2, so I don't know if I would get it. But hey, at least it is an RPG being released on a next-gen console, which is not something that happens every day. Or month. Or quarter even.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Considering how high the PS3 development costs are supposed to be, I'm guessing that a small company like NIS just developed this on the PS2 development platform and is just going to upscale it to HD. However, it couldn't hurt for them to port this to the Wii. Maybe they just don't feel like learning new hardware?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Kesubei

Considering how high the PS3 development costs are supposed to be, I'm guessing that a small company like NIS just developed this on the PS2 development platform and is just going to upscale it to HD. However, it couldn't hurt for them to port this to the Wii. Maybe they just don't feel like learning new hardware?

Wii could definitely handle the graphics we're seeing here, and obviously 360 could as well. Even though the installed user-base of both systems is much higher, Disgaea seems like it would find more of a "home" on PS3. Generally, I just don't see the same people playing Cooking Mama and then popping in Disgaea to play with demons on a grid in an underworld. Although there are exceptions, I wouldn't think of this as a general rule.

However, I do see this as the problem with next-gen in general. You have games like Disgaea 3 that are fine as "games," and people would love to buy & play them, but they are not fine as "next-gen" games. (Dreamcast probably has more sprite-rendering power than PS3. )

That being said, I wonder if this game will have the standard $59.99 price tag? I don't see a "budget" PS3 game market developing until at least next year after we've been through another holiday season. I guess that's the danger of releasing Disgaea 3 too soon into the console's life-cycle. By the time the console has gained market share you won't be able to find this game on the shelves. I wonder if NIS wouldn't be better-served by focusing on the PSP version of Disgaea for now and holding off on a PS3 version until the end of 2008. Since this is in development, perhaps that's already their plan?

FELIPE NO

Even though its next-gen, Nippon Ichi probably isn't going the route of super-graphics because not only does it cost money, but the soul of their games is the 2D sprites on 3D levels. Why spend more money to make a product that everyone is familiar with and will love regardless?

Just because a game can potentially have ridiculous graphics doesn't mean it has to. I think Echochrome has proven that you don't need graphics to be a highly anticipated and great looking game. Stop being vain fuckups.

Most amazing jew boots

Being a total Disgaea fanboy, I'm sold already, especially since I'm not much of a graphics whore anyways. I can't possibly speculate how much more they could add, with Disgaea 2 already giving a plethora of additional options, and can only hope for more rampant overkill. Pretty silly, how this game is my dealbreaker for buying a PS3 whenever in the distant future this should be released to us.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Ultima

Stop being vain fuckups.

i'm not a fuckup

speculative, how about those downloadable online games? There's definitely a pretty good market there for smaller retro-ish titles with a lower price-tag, in fact I think the games industry may never have been more ready for that type of game. And we have Microsoft to thank for that!

Thank you Microsoft!

The more I think about it, the more I think it would make super amounts of sense. SUPER amounts. Although the piece of scanned paper up there says that the game will be 6,800 Yen (= $55.79891), which would definitely imply a "full" game. It wouldn't be the first time that a game went from being a full game to a downloadable game though...

How ya doing, buddy?

I'm just going to take a guess here, but I bet those screens aren't actually shots from the PS3 engine. The shots in the original PDF match the PSPs screen resolution exactly. Maybe development started on the PSP then was moved to the PS3?

Also developing games on the PS3 isn't any more expensive than on the other platforms. Yes, cutting edge AAA tiles run in the millions. But these smaller developers have so many development tools available that they should be able to make a game visually on par with many other PS3 titles with a budget similar to say a Wii or even a PS2 game. It really should not cost NIS much more to step up to the next/current/whatever generation with reasonable results.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Qwarky

Yeah, I can only feel my dark FPS and third-person action games are next-gen when everything glows and looks wrinkled!

Yeah, uhh, what? I didn't say anything about dark glowing action games or whatever, I said it looks like a PSX game (or early PS2 at best), which it pretty much does. No reason to release it on PS3 if they're not using its capacity, especially when PS2 has literally twenty times larger userbase.

It might be acceptable if they released it as a downloadable game for 20 dollars, but 6800 yen for a PS2 game on PS3 = what

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

I could have sworn someone said those screenshots were from the dropped makai wars game on the PSP. I really doubt that is what the game is going to wind up looking like on the PS3, as the not only does it look bad -- it looks REALLY blurry when you check them out at IGN.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Aardark

Yeah, uhh, what? I didn't say anything about dark glowing action games or whatever, I said it looks like a PSX game (or early PS2 at best), which it pretty much does. No reason to release it on PS3 if they're not using its capacity, especially when PS2 has literally twenty times larger userbase.

It might be acceptable if they released it as a downloadable game for 20 dollars, but 6800 yen for a PS2 game on PS3 = what

What he means is that it doesn't have to have super fancy graphics in order to be a good game. Which is basically what you said needs to happen for every PS3 game to be successful or good. It doesn't.

Just a reminder: Talk about the game, Disgaea 3, please. None of this "man it's coming out for the ps3 and i dont like the ps3 i really hope it gets ported to the 360 imma poor fuck." stuff.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Elixir

What he means is that it doesn't have to have super fancy graphics in order to be a good game. Which is basically what you said needs to happen for every PS3 game to be successful or good. It doesn't.

Oh yeah, except nowhere did I say that (and 'super fancy graphics' is not the same as 'above-PSX-era graphics'). I don't care if it's good or successful or not; I'm not interested in games like Disgaea, but I'm sure it will be a good game for people who liked the previous parts. I'm just questioning their motives for releasing it on PlayStation 3, when technically it looks like it could be done on PlayStation 2 with zero problems, and PlayStation 2 has a much larger userbase so— wait, I just said that, why do I have to repeat myself?

Maybe they have some mystery reason why this needs to be made on a very powerful console with a relatively very small number of potential buyers, but all I see now is those two screenshots (I don't read Japanese), so that's what I'm talking about.

FELIPE NO

Christ sake can someone translate the mother fucking press release already? I don't know how multiple people being harbingers of death and anger when it comes to an activity that's supposed to promote fun overrode UNDERSTANDING AND REASON.

Slipping in potshots at next gen at reasonable points is productive too. +2 respect or something. Gotta promote that gamer faction bullshit.

Anyway... I guess your idea of fun has to be long ass turn based strategy games and-- From my assessment, Nippon Ichi seems to know who/what its target audience is. That target audience apparently being xenophobic Japanese people.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Aardark

Oh yeah, except nowhere did I say that (and 'super fancy graphics' is not the same as 'above-PSX-era graphics'). I don't care if it's good or successful or not; I'm not interested in games like Disgaea, but I'm sure it will be a good game for people who liked the previous parts. I'm just questioning their motives for releasing it on PlayStation 3, when technically it looks like it could be done on PlayStation 2 with zero problems, and PlayStation 2 has a much larger userbase so— wait, I just said that, why do I have to repeat myself?

Except saying in an announcement thread that the game in question "looks like a PSX game" is saying "it shouldn't be on the PS3, when 3D bloom and graphical shit could be there instead".

Also Disgaea 2 was very much like the original, with Item World, transmigration, returning characters, dark court, shops, chapters, specialists.. so Disgaea 3 will probably be like the other games.

Christ, it's no surprise as to why SCCA hate 2D games. All everyone does is bitch. The PS2 doesn't do too well when it comes to handling 2D games at the best of times, that's probably why it's coming to the PS3.

Disgaea was 320x, and god forbid you try playing that on something that isn't composite. Disgaea 2 is a huge step above, although easier. It's in 640x. Disgaea 3 will most likely be 16:9, 720p, and in 2D.

I don't know how many 2D games are on the PS3 right now. I'll say none.

Quote:

I don't know how multiple people being harbingers of death and anger when it comes to an activity that's supposed to promote fun overrode UNDERSTANDING AND REASON.

I can't even understand what the fuck this means.

Jam it back in, in the dark.