Getting a new video card

I already posted this in the thread, but just in case, I'm going to get Orange Box, but sadly I doubt my integrated 128 MB Vidcard can handle it. I'm willing to spend $100-$150 for an actual Vid Card, what do you guys recommend?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I imagine we'd need to know a bit more about your computer prior to recommending a specific card.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Crap. I'm far from my computer now, but I'll take a guess at its specs.

CPU: 3.4 GHz Processor - Pentium 4
RAM: 1024 MB
Windows XP

I have a feeling that's not sufficient information.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

No. What graphics card slot do you have?
PCI? PCI-e? AGP?

Edit: Or a motherboard model will suffice.

Most amazing jew boots

Ah, my mistake. Anyways, again, I'm uncertain if this is the correct information, I'm a noob when it comes to computer, obviously.

Quote:

Board: Intel Corporation D915GAG AAC87709-301
Serial Number: BQAG44706382
Bus Clock: 533 megahertz
BIOS: Intel Corp. AG91510J.15A.0579.2004.1008.1003 10/08/2004

I googled it, and apparently, someone has the same mother board as this, and has 2 PCI slots.

I was speaking idiomatically.

According to Intel, your board has a PCI-Express port, so for ~$100-120 I'd recommend a GeForce 7900GS or ATI Radeon X1950-ish card.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Is this good?

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...34&catid=10524

FELIPE NO

You'd probably be better off with one of the following.

8600GT $119 *$20MFR brings it down to $99*
NCIX.com - Buy XFX GeForce 8600GT 540MHZ 256MB 128BIT 1.4GHZ DDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I HDTV Out DIRECTX10 Video Card - PVT84JUDF3 In Canada.

2600XT $103.99
NCIX.com - Buy Sapphire Radeon HD2600XT 256MB GDDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I TV Out Video Card Lite Retail - 11110-00-20R In Canada.

i'd like to recommend a 1950pro or something (even the 2900GT's are going for $179 atm), but if you want something closer to $100-$130 those are about what you need.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I'll second Garret's opinion. OrangeBox isn't very demanding so most any card over $100 will do a good job. But in the $100-150, you should at least be able to pick up a 8600GT.

Personally I have this
NCIX.com - Buy Sapphire Radeon X1950 Pro 575MHZ PCI-E 256MB 1.38GHZ GDDR3 Dual DVI-I TV-OUT Lite Retail Video Card - 11095-01-20R In Canada.
Sapphire X1950PRO, and it runs OrangeBox maxed with alot of AA and AF at 1280x1024. It's a bit over $150 at NCIX, but if you quality of visuals is more important to you, pick up one of these over the 8600GT.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if the Orange Box runs on your system as-is. I've got a $50 GeForce 8500GT, and Portal plays fine at 1280x1024 with most things on high and 2x AA. The rest of my computer has better specs though, so I don't know how much that would affect things.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Don't listen to the above posts. The 8600GT is weaker than the 7900GS and similarly priced Radeon cards, especially in the older Source engine games. I myself have an 8600GT, I wouldn't wish it on anyone else in place of my recommendation, especially since the prices should be identical after rebates and such. Although the 8600GT can run CSS fine at 1440x900 at max settings and 16xCS anti-aliasing on my Vista computer with an Athlon 64 X2 4800+ and 2gb slow DDR2 RAM, you can get better performance with a 7900GS.

Also, forget about the X1650Pro, it's weaker than the 8600GT by far.

Also don't go for any card with 512mb of video RAM at this price range, because the card will not perform better by any significant amount. If you look at the old, now obsolete 8800 GTS 320 vs 640, even those former top-line cards don't have that great of a performance difference at mid to low resolutions.

Outdated but general guide for all this:
VGA Charts 2007 | Tom's Hardware

Also a benchmark for Orange Box, though lacking directly applicable charts for said cards:
AnandTech: UPDATED Half-Life 2: Episode 2 CPU and Graphics Performance



Edit: You ARE in the United States, correct? I see that Garret is from Canada, so these price ranges don't apply to him..

Most amazing jew boots

Originally Posted by neothe0ne

Don't listen to the above posts. The 8600GT is weaker than the 7900GS and similarly priced Radeon cards, especially in the older Source engine games. I myself have an 8600GT, I wouldn't wish it on anyone else in place of my recommendation, especially since the prices should be identical after rebates and such. Although the 8600GT can run CSS fine at 1440x900 at max settings and 16xCS anti-aliasing on my Vista computer with an Athlon 64 X2 4800+ and 2gb slow DDR2 RAM, you can get better performance with a 7900GS.

If I had to guess, it sounds like you are comparing the 8600GT in Vista, to a 7900GS on WinXP. In this comparison, yes, the 7900GS will surely win because Vista sucks balls for video game performance.

I'm not gonna claim that one of these 2 cards is better than the other, but I believe they are in a very similar performance catagory, and either would be a good choice.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by neothe0ne

Don't listen to the above posts. The 8600GT is weaker than the 7900GS and similarly priced Radeon cards, especially in the older Source engine games. I myself have an 8600GT, I wouldn't wish it on anyone else in place of my recommendation, especially since the prices should be identical after rebates and such. Although the 8600GT can run CSS fine at 1440x900 at max settings and 16xCS anti-aliasing on my Vista computer with an Athlon 64 X2 4800+ and 2gb slow DDR2 RAM, you can get better performance with a 7900GS.

Also, forget about the X1650Pro, it's weaker than the 8600GT by far.

Also don't go for any card with 512mb of video RAM at this price range, because the card will not perform better by any significant amount. If you look at the old, now obsolete 8800 GTS 320 vs 640, even those former top-line cards don't have that great of a performance difference at mid to low resolutions.

Outdated but general guide for all this:
VGA Charts 2007 | Tom's Hardware

Also a benchmark for Orange Box, though lacking directly applicable charts for said cards:
AnandTech: UPDATED Half-Life 2: Episode 2 CPU and Graphics Performance



Edit: You ARE in the United States, correct? I see that Garret is from Canada, so these price ranges don't apply to him..

Firstly about the pricing, if you noticed, the link in his post to the 1650pro was from that of futureshop, which is a Canadian Electronics outlet store. His profile also reveals that he lives in Toronto, Ontario.

Second, while the 7900GS is a better card than the 8600GT, it is also $199cdn, and for that amount of money a better card can be had. I was keeping the price within the $100-$120 (so about $150 with taxes and shipping) area as he had requested. So please don't shoot down the suggestions of others in that manner, as you were somewhat off the mark.

Additional Spam:
NCIX currently has on a special for a 7900GS XT for $119.99
NCIX.com - Buy XFX GeForce 7900GS XT 480MHZ 256MB 256BIT 1.4GHZ DDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I TV Out Video Card - PVT71PUDE3 In Canada.

limited quantity though.

Most amazing jew boots

Thanks for the replies everyone!

So a 7600 GS, it is! Thanks!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I didn't see anybody suggest a 7600, but it's a decent card IMO.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Garret

Firstly about the pricing, if you noticed, the link in his post to the 1650pro was from that of futureshop, which is a Canadian Electronics outlet store. His profile also reveals that he lives in Toronto, Ontario.

And his country flag is the American flag, not the Canadian flag, when you click on his user name. That wouldn't be my fault.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Woops. I meant 7900! Mixed up the 6 and the 9...

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Newegg.com - Foxconn FV-N79SM2D2-OC GeForce 7900GS 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

"use promo code "EMC1102VGA07" for $10 OFF"
(you have to sign up for newsletter)

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by neothe0ne

And his country flag is the American flag, not the Canadian flag, when you click on his user name. That wouldn't be my fault.

Ah, true. I wonder why it does that. Simple mistake though.
As for Newegg, they don't ship to Canada. They have been promising for 2 years+ now that they are coming to Canada, but still nothing.

Most amazing jew boots

Heh, I have still yet to get a card. But I will be getting one within the following week!

Someone suggested to me the new HD 3850. He must be crazy... they're over $200, from what I can tell. Or have I been looking at the bad sources.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

7900 GS is under 200 now.

NCIX.com - Buy XFX GeForce 7900GS XT 480MHZ 256MB 256BIT 1.4GHZ DDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I TV Out Video Card - PVT71PUDE3 In Canada.

Or save 2 more hundred and get 8800 .__.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Sepharite

Heh, I have still yet to get a card. But I will be getting one within the following week!

Someone suggested to me the new HD 3850. He must be crazy... they're over $200, from what I can tell. Or have I been looking at the bad sources.

The 3850 looks to be retailing at around $180, while its beefier 3870 brother is roughly $220. From what I've been reading, the 3850 seems like the best card you can get at its price, beating out the GeForce 7900GS and 8600GT. That, or wait for the GeForce 8800GT 256MB model to come out.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Sepharite

Heh, I have still yet to get a card. But I will be getting one within the following week!

Someone suggested to me the new HD 3850. He must be crazy... they're over $200, from what I can tell. Or have I been looking at the bad sources.

HD 3850's are $179. HD 3870's are $219.

A 3850 looks to be a great value buy. I highly doubt that the 8800GT 256MB will be retail at the same price. The performance of the 3850 is good, and if you can squeeze an extra $30 bucks to your previously mentioned maximum price, I think it would be well worth your time/money/effort.

Linky:
NCIX.com - Buy HIS Radeon HD 3850 256MB 256BIT GDDR3 PCI-E Dual DVI-I Hcdp HDMI HDTV Out Video Card - H385F256 In Canada.

FELIPE NO

I bought my eVGA 7900GT off of eBay for $125 shipped. It's eBay, though, so I don't know if you wanna take that chance.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

What's this about Power Supply? Do 8800GT or 8600GT take a lot of power?

And thanks for the posts, I'm still thinking of getting 8600GT. That's all the money I have, and I just want to play Team Fortress 2 xD

Jam it back in, in the dark.