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Overhauling Old Computer - new Motherboard
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Sepharite
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Old Nov 25, 2007, 10:07 PM #1 of 9
Overhauling Old Computer - new Motherboard

Thanks to everyone who helped me in that videocard thread!

But I found out I don't have PCI-E so I was wondering if you guys could help me choose a motherboard. I'm cheap so I think that's what I'm going to do >_<'' What information do you need first?

Thanks =)

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My computer's specs are:

Processor:
3.07 gigahertz Intel Pentium 4
16 kilobyte primary memory cache
1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache

160.03 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
9.45 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

Memory:
1014 Megabytes Installed Memory

Slot 'J6H1' has 256 MB (serial number 0xF103FB5F)
Slot 'J6H2' has 256 MB (serial number 0xF101FB65)
Slot 'J6J1' has 512 MB (serial number 0x1401204A)
Slot 'J6J2' is Empty

Main Circuit Board b
Main Circuit Board: (I'm guessing useless info, since I'm going to change it)
Board: Intel Corporation D915GAG AAC87709-301
Serial Number: BQAG44706382
Bus Clock: 533 megahertz
BIOS: Intel Corp. AG91510J.15A.0579.2004.1008.1003 10/08/2004


Drives:

AN3385B MJQ838E SCSI CdRom Device [CD-ROM drive]
AN3385B MJQ838E SCSI CdRom Device [CD-ROM drive]
HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8483B
TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H552B [CD-ROM drive]

eM Bay Reader USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 1
eM Bay Reader USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 2
eM Bay Reader USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 3
eM Bay Reader USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 4
WDC WD1600JD-22HBB0 [Hard drive] (160.04 GB) -- drive 0

Controllers:

Intel(R) 82801FB Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 2651
Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM Ultra ATA Storage Controllers - 266F
Primary IDE Channel [Controller] (2x)
Secondary IDE Channel [Controller]

Bus Adapters:

SCSI/RAID Host Controller (2x)
Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM USB Universal Host Controller - 2658
Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM USB Universal Host Controller - 2659
Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM USB Universal Host Controller - 265A
Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM USB Universal Host Controller - 265B
Intel(R) 82801FB/FBM USB2 Enhanced Host Controller - 265C

OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
HID-compliant consumer control device
HID-compliant device
USB Human Interface Device (3x)
HID Keyboard Device
HID-compliant mouse
USB Composite Device
USB Mass Storage Device
USB Root Hub (5x)

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Last edited by Sepharite; Nov 25, 2007 at 11:48 PM. Reason: This member got a little too post happy.
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 02:34 AM 1 #2 of 9
If memory serves me correctly, the 915 chip sets were the first 775 sockets.. either that or the late 478's *checks the net*, looks like 775.

Luckily still lots of motherboards around that support that.

Chipset wise you can go with either

Nvidia:
680i
650i's

Nvidia chipsets support SLI, although I wouldn't be too concerned with picking up a board that can do that. The 680i's are high end, 650i more mainstream.

Intel Chipsets:
965
975x
P35
X38
X48

Intel chipsets support Crossfire, once again though I wouldn't worry about that
975x, x38 and x48 are the high end chips, 965 and P35 considered the mainstream. 965 and 975 are the older sets.

Stick with the good brands..
DFI (mostly enthusiast)
Asus (All across the price spectrum)
Gigabyte (Mostly OC enthusiast , but they have a few lower end boards that are rock solid, I run a GA-P35-DS3L myself)
EVGA (Nvidia chips)

Foxconn, Abit, Chaintech etc.. are also other known motherboard brands.

My only concern is your RAM. If you can, post some more info on that.
You also have to be careful with how many IDE bus's come on the board.. a lot now only come with 1, which would be an issue for you, as you have Two IDE harddrives (one bus right there), and IDE DVD/CD Rom drives.

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Old Nov 26, 2007, 10:54 AM #3 of 9
Woah, thanks...

Now I think I made a step to early, my cousin just told me my computer might be a proprietary, meaning it can't be upgraded unless I use the appropriate motherboard. How can I tell?

Btw, my computer is manufactured by Emachines. ._.''

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Old Nov 26, 2007, 11:05 AM Local time: Nov 26, 2007, 11:05 AM #4 of 9
Check to see if it needs specific drivers that both google and Windows XP don't have defaults for, mainly.

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Old Nov 26, 2007, 12:44 PM Local time: Nov 26, 2007, 11:44 AM 1 #5 of 9
Woah, thanks...

Now I think I made a step to early, my cousin just told me my computer might be a proprietary, meaning it can't be upgraded unless I use the appropriate motherboard. How can I tell?

Btw, my computer is manufactured by Emachines. ._.''
Some components in it will be fine on upgrade. Some will not.

You will need a new:
Motherboard
GraphicsCard
*RAM* (maybe)
PowerSupply
*Case* (probably)

Hopefully the hard drive/cd drives will transfer, but there is a possibility that they wont. I'm gonna do a quick budget build on newegg and see what I can come up with for ya.

Oh, and do us a favor and use this program
CPUID
and either post the info, or take a quick screen capture of each of the tabs. Thanks!

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Nov 26, 2007, 01:19 PM #6 of 9


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Old Nov 26, 2007, 02:16 PM #7 of 9
Er....is that DDR1 that I see? If it is, chances are, you need to upgrade your RAM while you're at it. I'm pretty sure all recent motherboards that fit 775 come in DDR2 flavors.

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Old Nov 26, 2007, 02:22 PM Local time: Nov 26, 2007, 01:22 PM #8 of 9
Considering your desire for a cheap vid card, I'm shooting for a budget build as best I can find. So, any of this hardware you could get a better version of by different manufacturer, but what I'm recommending is good enough and is not "bad", just not necessarily the "best".

Newegg.com - MSI P6N SLI-FI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
MSI 650i SLI motherboard. Comes with 2 ATA slots, so you can use your current drives with it, assuming they aren't proprietary. $20 mail-in-rebate brings it to $85.

Newegg.com - OCZ SLI-Ready 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Retail
With current deals on DDR2-800 memory, I can't recommend keeping your current sticks of RAM. Trying to use your DDR400 while upgrade severly limits your motherboard options into crap territory. This OCZ DDR2-800 RAM is $36 after rebate, and it's 2GB. Definitely worth every penny.

Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RP-600-PCAR ATX from factor 12V V2.01 600W Power Supply 115/230 V Safety Nemko, TUV, cUL, CE, BSMI, FCC, CCC - Retail
Apparently this power supply is either ~$30, or it's free with MIR. Not sure but either way, 600w PSU w/ two 12v rails at that price is phenomenal.

Total Cost = $151 (or $120 if the PSU is free)

This is a good future minded system. You could upgrade to a better Core2Duo, upgrade more RAM (2 open RAM slots), the PSU can handle tougher stuff later, and you could even get SLI graphics cards if you wanted. Now you'd still more than most likely need a case, and that is something you'd probably want to find for yourself. But post a few that you like here, and we can help point you in a good direction. Also, sometimes buying a case comes with a power supply, and that might be a good direction to shoot for.

Now I took just a bit of time to look on NCIX, because you have to buy from there, right? And this is what I came up with:

NCIX.com - Buy Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L ATX LGA775 P35 1333FSB 1PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 3PCI SATA2 Sound GBLAN Motherboard - GA-P35-DS3L In Canada.
OpenBox for 88.69CAD w/ the newer P35 chipset. Only 1 IDE port, but that means your current 160GB harddrive and one disc drive.

NCIX.com - Buy OCZ Platinum XTC REV.2 PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-15 240PIN DIMM Dual Channel Memory Kit - OCZ2P800R22GK In Canada.
54.99CAD after rebates. 2GB RAM, OCZ... Good to go. Rebates are gone after tomorrow.

NCIX.com - Buy Coolermaster Extreme Power 600W ATX 12V V2.01 Silent Power Supply 20/24PIN 120MM Fan - RP-600-PCAR In Canada.
37.63CAD after rebate. 600W and two 12V rails at 18amps. Great PSU.

That's about the same system for 181.31CAD. Of course add a case, and you'll be set.

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Old Nov 26, 2007, 02:30 PM Local time: Nov 26, 2007, 11:30 AM #9 of 9
Looks like you are quickly looking at a new machine. If that is the case, check out Extremetech's Sub-$800 Gaming PC, which is fully upgradeable.

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