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[DS] Front Mission (DS)
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Old Aug 13, 2007, 11:30 PM Local time: Aug 13, 2007, 09:30 PM #1 of 23
Front Mission (DS)










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...Most of Front Mission on the DS will be composed of missions and the storyline from the original Super Nintendo game and its successor on the PlayStation...
...story arcs from their respective games will be included in the DS version, and a total of 10 additional missions have been added... ...Additionally, new characters featured in Front Mission 5 and Front Mission 2nd will pop up in the revised storylines, and you'll also find weapons and mechs that didn't appear in the original games...

...relies on the touch screen heavily for its controls...
...available on October 23.
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Now this is quite exciting. I was a fan of Front Mission 3 and 4, though I have yet to beat either one of them. Seeing this game being remade on the DS is great news. I certainly can't wait.

Discuss your anticipation of the DS game and any previous Front Mission games.

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Old Aug 13, 2007, 11:46 PM Local time: Aug 13, 2007, 10:46 PM #2 of 23
Man, this is my most anticipated game at the moment. I can't wait for this to come out.

I had been playing the SNES rom along with the English patch, but once I heard this was coming out, I stopped playing in antincipation of it (I don't know exactly how far I was in the game (I'm guessing I was about halfway through), but either way I wanted to wait for the superior version to come out).

As for my experience with other games in the series, I never played three, and I've only played a demo of the fourth one (I do have it though, I just haven't had the time to play it, and I wanted to finish the first game beforehand anyway).

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Old Aug 14, 2007, 01:24 AM #3 of 23
woot nice I never played the original, actually I only played 3 and 4 and was so hoping to get FM5 but sadly it never was release outside of japan ; ; (it looked so good! ;

I wonder if now with the character from FM5 added in it, if they will decide to release FM5 XD

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Old Aug 14, 2007, 04:05 AM Local time: Aug 14, 2007, 11:05 AM #4 of 23
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...Most of Front Mission on the DS will be composed of missions and the storyline from the original Super Nintendo game and its successor on the PlayStation...
I suppose they are referring to the Front Mission 1st remake here, because I'm pretty sure Front Mission DS is not going to include Front Mission 2 missions and storyline.

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Old Aug 14, 2007, 11:55 AM Local time: Aug 14, 2007, 09:55 AM #5 of 23
I've played some of Front Mission 3 as well but never got into it too much nor am too familiar with the series. But with this DS release, it could be a lil bit money. I'm looking forward to it.

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Old Aug 14, 2007, 11:58 AM Local time: Aug 14, 2007, 09:58 AM #6 of 23
I suppose they are referring to the Front Mission 1st remake here, because I'm pretty sure Front Mission DS is not going to include Front Mission 2 missions and storyline.

The full article referenced Front Mission 2nd and it sounded like a combination of the first and second games are going to be in this remake.

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Old Aug 14, 2007, 12:29 PM Local time: Aug 14, 2007, 11:29 AM #7 of 23
Supposedly, if this sells well, then Squenix will look in to releasing FM5 state-side. The problem with 3 & 4 has to do with neither receiving much advertisement. If it received that, the series would be golden state-side.

Plus the PS3 doing shitty is giving the PS2 more life. Hopefully this'll sell nicely and FM5 will get a go-ahead in a grab for cash.

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Old Aug 14, 2007, 12:50 PM Local time: Aug 15, 2007, 06:50 AM #8 of 23
Supposedly, if this sells well, then Squenix will look in to releasing FM5 state-side. The problem with 3 & 4 has to do with neither receiving much advertisement. If it received that, the series would be golden state-side.
The main issue with Front Mission, I found, is that it's rather slow paced and filled with text. It isn't well received in English audience because most English gamers these days want fast paced games that keep the entertainment going. Over strategy and getting involved with a story.

This is what I found FM4 to be like; slow paced and dull. I don't think Front MIssion will sell very well for the DS, but it's good to hear it's coming. FM5 I won't hold out any hope for, though.

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Old Aug 14, 2007, 12:54 PM Local time: Aug 14, 2007, 11:54 AM #9 of 23
Well, FM is aimed at an older age bracket. Anyone's younger brother could hop in to FFX-2, and any perverted teenager could fap to Yuna's hot-pants.

Whereas FM games require a more rigorous translation. This is one reason why X-seed won't touch it (aside from Square of America possibly having a death-grip on it), I'm afraid. If it could be advertised, it'd get attention. SRPGs are big thanks to Nippon Ichi, and mecha games are always good.

Am I the only guy who didn't find FM4 as dull? I was so damn hungry for a FM follow-up to 3 that I absolutely loved it. I wish the two paths combined eventually, though...

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Old Aug 29, 2007, 04:13 PM Local time: Aug 29, 2007, 11:13 PM #10 of 23
The full article referenced Front Mission 2nd and it sounded like a combination of the first and second games are going to be in this remake.
So I did some extensive research and nothing indicates that anything Front Mission 2-related (neither story nor characters) will be in the game.

The original quote from Gamespot:
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Most of Front Mission on the DS will be composed of missions and the storyline from the original Super Nintendo game and its successor on the PlayStation (you know, the first one).
I think by "first one" they're indeed referring to Front Mission 1st, the PS remake of the original Front Mission for the SNES. This includes an alternative USN campaign that we already know will be making its way to the DS version. We also know that one or more characters from Front Mission 5 are said to make an appearance, which is fine, because that game was more related to the original game than any other in the series. But characters and story elements from Front Mission 2!?

Would anybody with further information on this care to clarify?

Also for the record, there never was a "Front Mission 2nd". The name of the original Front Mission sequel was just "Front Mission 2" ever since.

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Old Sep 1, 2007, 01:09 PM Local time: Sep 1, 2007, 11:09 AM #11 of 23
Well, FM is aimed at an older age bracket. Anyone's younger brother could hop in to FFX-2, and any perverted teenager could fap to Yuna's hot-pants.

Whereas FM games require a more rigorous translation. This is one reason why X-seed won't touch it (aside from Square of America possibly having a death-grip on it), I'm afraid. If it could be advertised, it'd get attention. SRPGs are big thanks to Nippon Ichi, and mecha games are always good.

Am I the only guy who didn't find FM4 as dull? I was so damn hungry for a FM follow-up to 3 that I absolutely loved it. I wish the two paths combined eventually, though...
((General opening statement here, so don't take anything that might seem like an accusation the wrong way, Gechmir. The quoting is merely for the FM4 comment you make))

Given that Strategy RPGs were a pretty obscure market, way back when, I wouldn't necessarily attribute it entirely to what's popular these days. RPGs were explosively popular back in the late 1990s, but they're a dime a dozen these days. It definitely does have to do with the play style required, however, it isn't necessary to try to sneak in a jab at the intellect of people who want a game that doesn't take an investment to get into. I loved Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter, but fuck me if I had judged it based off the first few hours.

Anyway, I also want to point out that it took a while before Square re-released Final Fantasy Tactics, and it hasn't been until recently where you could say there really was a market for them in the west, as already stated this is largely due in part to Nippon Ichi.

I love the Front Mission, but that's mostly because I had an infatuation with military culture in my teens (and I'm also in the military... no this doesn't really mean much). Front Mission 4 was okay to me, but I found the previous episodes were a bit more inspired, especially given that one scenario was basically "Three Kings - Front Mission." I don't have a problem with tributes that might seem derivative of source material... but it was flagrant in the case of FM4.

I did enjoy the fact that the paths didn't converge, it gave the world a sense of connectivity through subtlety. I will buy this game for the DS, especially if it means we'll see Scars of War over here. I hear that it is the best playing game in the series thus far, and that alone is good news.

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Old Sep 2, 2007, 10:24 AM Local time: Sep 2, 2007, 09:24 AM #12 of 23
Front Mission 4 didn't strike me as a very dull game unless you're the sort who's bored by any strategy RPG. Although this is where I cynically grumble that Nippon Ichi's games probably get attention more for the flashy special effects than the strategy aspect. FM4 let you play around for hours with mech assembly as any good giant robot themed game should, but they also let you just purchase pre-assembled (non-sucky at that) mechs and skip straight to the battles.

I'm assuming the game system is getting some tweaking as well? I never played the first game, but I imagine the gameplay must be pretty clunky compared to the later entries, just by virtue of having six games overall in which to refine the system.

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Old Sep 2, 2007, 11:23 AM Local time: Sep 2, 2007, 10:23 AM #13 of 23
The first installment is really good, actually. Don't dismiss it because it's a SNES title; the system had some REAL gems.

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Old Sep 2, 2007, 12:21 PM Local time: Sep 2, 2007, 07:21 PM #14 of 23
I'm assuming the game system is getting some tweaking as well? I never played the first game, but I imagine the gameplay must be pretty clunky compared to the later entries, just by virtue of having six games overall in which to refine the system.
Actually, the Front Mission formula didn't change much throughout the series. And no, there's no tweaking in the DS port. It plays exactly like the SNES game with the additional scenario of the PS1 port.

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Old Sep 24, 2007, 07:05 AM Local time: Sep 25, 2007, 01:05 AM #15 of 23
Front Mission

Official site. It's also available for pre-order.

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Old Sep 24, 2007, 07:17 PM Local time: Sep 24, 2007, 05:17 PM #16 of 23
Front Mission

Official site. It's also available for pre-order.

Any announced bonuses?

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Old Oct 25, 2007, 12:44 AM Local time: Oct 24, 2007, 11:44 PM #17 of 23
So has anyone else picked this up yet? I got it today, but I haven't had a chance to play it yet. I definitely can't wait to put in a lot of time on it this weekend, though.

And on a strange note, there's one of those Nintendo WFC booklets inside the case, even though the game obviously isn't online. Weird.

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Old Oct 25, 2007, 12:59 AM Local time: Oct 24, 2007, 11:59 PM #18 of 23
I can't really comment on the Black Hounds, I'm still working through the original Canyon Crows side of the story. I like it.

Not really sure why they threw a WFC book in there either, the only thing even remotely online is trading some wanzer data via local wireless unless there's some secret thing you need to unlock... which I kind of doubt.

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Old Oct 25, 2007, 01:02 AM Local time: Oct 25, 2007, 01:02 AM #19 of 23
Wow, how did I miss this? I actually finished the fan-translation of this game and I bought a DS recently.. This is definitely something I'd like to pick up.

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Old Oct 25, 2007, 01:08 AM Local time: Oct 25, 2007, 07:08 PM #20 of 23
I can't really comment on the Black Hounds, I'm still working through the original Canyon Crows side of the story. I like it.

Not really sure why they threw a WFC book in there either, the only thing even remotely online is trading some wanzer data via local wireless unless there's some secret thing you need to unlock... which I kind of doubt.
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Old Oct 25, 2007, 01:18 AM #21 of 23
Being near Gamestop HQ helps.

Also ROM dumps.

I started on the game this evening, I'd only ever played the Front Mission released for Playstation (2? 3? I'm not sure?). Good to see that the experience from that carries over. I love the combat, taking out everything but the enemy's torso is good fun.

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Old Oct 25, 2007, 01:32 AM Local time: Oct 25, 2007, 12:32 AM #22 of 23
Being near Gamestop HQ helps.
Yeah not gonna lie, it's pretty rad when the main warehouse for every Gamestop//EBGames is only a few miles away and you know some people.

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Old Nov 4, 2007, 06:18 AM Local time: Nov 4, 2007, 11:18 AM #23 of 23
Started playing this yesterday. Would have been earlier, but the ROM wasn't available until the day after it came out, and by then I was engrossed in other things. I'm very happy with it so far. It's pretty much a perfect port of the SNES original, and the translation isn't all that different from the fan-done one.

I'm mainly glad that they didn't fag it up with a 'modern' anime art direction.

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