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RIAA wins case in Minnesota?
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Nothing gets the public on your side like making a single mother of two pay two hundred thousand dollars for stealing twelve dollars of material.
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You know. Stealing is wrong. I understand this point.
What I don't understand is how the RIAA is going to survive just suing people into the ground. It creates nothing but bad press for the industry as a whole. I can guarantee you a lot more people have looked into independent music that isn't under the branches of the top record labels. I know I have. Besides, when's the last time anyone has heard anything new and decent on the radio anyways? Most of the radio stations might play one or two new songs total in any given month, and the rest is just early 90s alternative like Pearl Jam and Nirvana. RIAA needs to slow down with the piracy nonsense (since OBVIOUSLY suing people hasn't slowed down piracy, infact it has only increased), and work on rebuilding the image of the music industry as a whole. PS. I'm an iTunes downloader, not a file-sharer. Last thing RIAA should look into doing is making iTunes go away by getting greedy and demanding more money for the music.
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Last edited by SuperNova; Oct 4, 2007 at 08:44 PM.
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If this is indeed true, talk about someone that should have settled. Takes one idiot to ruin it for everyone else, eh?
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the Defense Attorney kinda screwed it up for her. Before he had a really really good case, but the second you mention Zombies its kinda like stickin your fist up your ass.
Cause if I remember right, he mentioned things about her using Kazaa to store music (I still don't understand who in their right mind would use Kazaa...but still, when you use a wireless router doesn't the IP come up at 192.whatev.whatev.whatev cause cable modems put out a single IP Most amazing jew boots ![]() |
That said though Slash, you are still responsible for securing your own router and connection.
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To true. I still really do not believe the RIAA should have won that case and that the jury was on crack.
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I think the RIAA should have won that case given the law. The fact that that was considered a reasonable fee for damage is what's absurd. Hopefully this will give someone cause to look a bit more carefully at copyright infringement law.
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This will just make it easier to settle any pending lawsuits with other people. As the article stated, they can reference the case and say "you can fight the law, but the law will win, always". Truth of the matter is, it will take just take one damming judgment against the RIAA to really do some damage, something they will no double regret when their accountants figure they spent more money on litigation then they could have developing a product that people would actually want to spend money to consume. One would think they would have learned from how the US government (and others) have failed in the "War on Drugs". If people really want to do something, they will do it regardless how illegal it is; you can't force them into it.
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What I would like to see is how these records are being obtained though. Since the RIAA has no authoritative clout, how do they just get the right to scan computers? And under what criteria do they get the computers they choose to investigate?
If the RIAA ever came and knocked on my door, and said "Hi, can we look at the files on your computer?", even though I don't even have This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. I have nothing clever to put here.
Last edited by SuperNova; Oct 5, 2007 at 09:45 PM.
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They don't need to "scan" your computer. The people they find are using peer-to-peer filesharing programs that show what files you have to anyone that wants to look. They only catch idiots, really.
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Its even tougher with media since its a very specific thing. If you want Metallica, you have to deal with the Elektra label, and so on and so forth. Independent labels are nice and dandy - but they don't carry anything heard on the radio past 91.1 on your dial.
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She should have used emule and just kept her share folder empty. Yeah i know..that defeats the whole purpose of p2p..but better to be paranoid and out of jail than sharing everything like this women obviously did.
Not saying emule is foolproof..but she used KAZAA?! I didn't even know that was still around. Ive never heard of someone getting pinched by the RIAA on emule. Of course if youre REALLY paranoid..there is always TOR, Privoxy and PGP ![]() What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
Or buy the music you want to buy.
Like I said people, stealing is still stealing. iTunes is great, and I don't mind paying 99 cents a single. But again doesn't mean I support the RIAA or frivolous lawsuits either. FELIPE NO I have nothing clever to put here. |
People still use Kazaa? Ever since I found out about torrents and rapidshare files I haven't touched one of those p2p programs ever since.
While the RIAA certainly does have the law on its back, you'd think that their tactics in dealing with these people (tactics that in my mind at least amounts to financial terror tactics) would galvanize the jury to nullify. But I guess some people are simply okay with allowing these kinds of terror tactics to continue. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
Her fault for hiring the stupidest lawyer in the world, though. As I heard it, they even had her MAC address logged, which combined with the IP address is as good as leaving your fingerprints all over the scene of a crime. Someone would have to be directly framing her to have spoofed both numbers. The amount she's being ordered to pay is way outrageous, but she totally deserved to lose the case. A defense attorney who deserves his law degree would have shot the RIAA out of the water by forcing them to provide proof of damages. The music industry hasn't actually been able to say how much damage has been done by file-sharing, and they go out of their way to white-wash that fact. No damages, no case. So really, there was plenty of stupid to pass around. Jam it back in, in the dark. ![]() |
Not to mention the Defense Attorney said others who could have downloaded were Zombies and Crackers.
ZOMBIES AND CRACKERS!? There's nowhere I can't reach. ![]() |
As for "negative publicity", thats a really stupid "internet" line of reasoning. Even the most staunch, stupid middle schooler knows file sharing is illegal. Of course the RIAA is going to do this, since they're in the right. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. ![]() |
I think what he means it that the RIAA is spending millions to watch people, get all their information and stuff like that, then to prosecute and whatnot as well
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I was speaking idiomatically. ![]() |
While it is most certainly within the RIAA's rights to sue people for infringing on their copyrights and denying them their very hard earned money, why are they targeting everyday users and not say, the groups that rip and release the pirated music or shut down the servers that host the pirated music? Because
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I know someone who solely uses Kazaa to download all of his music, illegal progs, and movies. I think he's an idiot but he loves to use it. The funniest part is that he keeps downloaded virus-infected .exes that are masked as mp3s. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
So the question really is, why are they bothering? If they're not preventing any real revenue loss, and this is costing them so much money, they'd be better off just leaving well enough alone. Millions might not make or break a big company like Sony, but I bet there's some stockholders who'd like to have that in their pockets nonetheless. It really comes across as the music industry allocating part of their capital for the sole purpose of being colossal dicks, just because they can. Legal right notwithstanding, there's something that seriously needs addressing when you have massive companies going out and completely destroying random middle class families with punitive fines over something that barely affects the companies in the first place. Nobody should just get away with breaking the law, but this shit with music execs masturbating furiously as they slam yet another family with a $5000settlement claim needs to stop. Any legal system that awards $9250 per song is a broken system. Jam it back in, in the dark. ![]() |