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Old Sep 6, 2007, 09:38 AM #1 of 14
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Nuclear Bombs Mistakenly Flown Over US

WASHINGTON -
A B-52 bomber was mistakenly armed with six nuclear warheads and flown for more than three hours across several states last week, prompting an Air Force investigation and the firing of one commander, Pentagon officials said Wednesday.

The incident was so serious that President Bush and Defense Secretary Robert Gates were quickly informed and Gates has asked for daily briefings on the Air Force probe, said Defense Department press secretary Geoff Morrell. He said, "At no time was the public in danger."

Rep. Ike Skelton, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, called the mishandling of the weapons "deeply disturbing" and said the committee would press the military for details. Rep. Edward J. Markey, a senior member of the Homeland Security committee, said it was "absolutely inexcusable."

"Nothing like this has ever been reported before and we have been assured for decades that it was impossible," said Markey, D-Mass., co-chair of the House task force on nonproliferation.

The plane was carrying Advanced Cruise Missiles from Minot Air Force Base, N.D, to Barksdale Air Force Base, La., on Aug. 30, said the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of a Defense Department policy not to confirm information on nuclear weapons.

The missiles, which are being decommissioned, were mounted onto pylons on the bomber's wings and it is unclear why the warheads had not been removed beforehand.

The Air Combat Command has ordered a command-wide stand down on Sept. 14 to review procedures, officials said. They said there was minimal risk to crews and the public because of safety features designed into the munitions.

In addition to the munitions squadron commander who was relieved of his duties, crews involved with the mistaken load - including ground crew workers - have been temporarily decertified for handling munitions, one official said.

The investigation is expected to take several weeks.

The incident was first reported by Military Times newspaper group.

"There is no more serious issue than the security and proper handling of nuclear weapons," Skelton said in a statement Wednesday. "The American people, our friends, and our potential adversaries must be confident that the highest standards are in place when it comes to our nuclear arsenal."

Skelton, D-Mo., said his committee will pursue answers on the classified matter "to ensure that the Air Force and the Department of Defense address this particular incident and strengthen controls more generally."
I don't get this kind of careless bullshit. It's almost awe-inspiring that this administration can put the public in such grave danger so easily. Ugh... I'm just speechless.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Sep 6, 2007, 04:38 PM Local time: Sep 6, 2007, 02:38 PM #2 of 14
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THE ADMINISTRATION IS AT FAULT FOR AIR FORCE NUKES

BLAME BUSH YARAGHAGHLATWEHALGNHALSKFHNA;LKFMHAOSFIMGLAKDFMHDA HHLKMN

Srsly, NOT EVERYTHING IS HIS GODDAMN FAULT.

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Old Sep 6, 2007, 04:42 PM #3 of 14
YES

THE ADMINISTRATION IS AT FAULT FOR AIR FORCE NUKES

BLAME BUSH YARAGHAGHLATWEHALGNHALSKFHNA;LKFMHAOSFIMGLAKDFMHDA HHLKMN

Srsly, NOT EVERYTHING IS HIS GODDAMN FAULT.
Well, you'd think the Commander in Chief would kind of sorta know why this shit is going down. What with being the COMMANDER IN CHIEF and all.

But who knows. I could be biased and misinformed! (wheres styphon)

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Old Sep 6, 2007, 04:55 PM Local time: Sep 6, 2007, 04:55 PM #4 of 14
Oh well at least they flew over mostly worthless states (including my own).

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Old Sep 6, 2007, 04:57 PM #5 of 14
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YES

THE ADMINISTRATION IS AT FAULT FOR AIR FORCE NUKES

BLAME BUSH YARAGHAGHLATWEHALGNHALSKFHNA;LKFMHAOSFIMGLAKDFMHDA HHLKMN

Srsly, NOT EVERYTHING IS HIS GODDAMN FAULT.
Christ, I'm not saying "GEORGE BUSH IS TO BLAME LOL GOP," but it's pretty disgusting that this sort of thing can slip past the administration. It's tough to deny that.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Sep 6, 2007, 07:33 PM Local time: Sep 6, 2007, 05:33 PM #6 of 14
Well, you'd think the Commander in Chief would kind of sorta know why this shit is going down. What with being the COMMANDER IN CHIEF and all.

But who knows. I could be biased and misinformed! (wheres styphon)
Yes, I imagine an effective use of a president's time would be routing airplanes around the country.

Are you people for real.

Edit: Also, is it just me or does this feel like it could be the basis for a sweet episode of 24.

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Old Sep 7, 2007, 08:42 AM Local time: Sep 7, 2007, 09:42 PM #7 of 14
I don't think it was the president's fault per se. But more so of the person in charge at that particular base. Hence administration. And it's not so much about the plane going around the country with nukes, but more so of the plane being MISTAKENLY armed with nukes that's the problem actually.

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Old Sep 7, 2007, 10:16 AM Local time: Sep 7, 2007, 10:16 AM #8 of 14
"Hay guys go fly around somewhere. No where in particular just go go go."

"Hmm, these missiles sure look odd. Wonder why they still have their big red shiny domes attached here at the top. OH WELL LETS GO PLAY."

vrooooooooooooooom.

I'm not even so much concerned with the administration as I am with the flight crew. Being a retail store manager and not a nuclear technician/person knowledgeable about missiles, I'm not really sure what the process is for disarming a nuke, but isn't it fairly obvious when one's been armed and one's been disarmed?

And what the fuck were they doing flying around with them anyway?! If they were going to dispose of them somewhere, why put them on a B52 Bomber of all things? Can't you just load 'em in a truck and drive?

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Old Sep 7, 2007, 08:32 PM Local time: Sep 7, 2007, 10:02 PM #9 of 14
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"Hay guys go fly around somewhere. No where in particular just go go go."

"Hmm, these missiles sure look odd. Wonder why they still have their big red shiny domes attached here at the top. OH WELL LETS GO PLAY."

vrooooooooooooooom.
You just got to wonder if that was the actual though process going into the minds of the pilots before they even took off. A pure shining example of flagrant human error and ignorance.

You know its only a matter of time before a supposed accidental nuclear explosion happens somewhere in North America. Oh well, at least the blame game has been started and someone got their ass fired. Thats the way to handle it.

Who knows one of those days commercial aricraft will be carrying nuclear missles accidentally.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Last edited by Angel of Light; Sep 7, 2007 at 08:36 PM. Reason: Just a mistake using a very touchy computer. I'm terribly sorry.
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Old Sep 7, 2007, 09:03 PM Local time: Sep 7, 2007, 08:03 PM #10 of 14
Who knows one of those days commercial aricraft will be carrying nuclear missles accidentally.
Wa... ok, what? You don't make any fucking sense. Are you just trying to be angsty for the sake of it, and you don't pull it off well, or are you trying to be Dadaesque and actually have no point, but we don't get it. Either way, stop talking politics.

This is a flagrant oversight that has seen someone punished and put egg on the Military's face yet again. Despite commercial flights becoming possibly FLIGHTS OF DOOOOOOOOOOOOM.

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Old Sep 7, 2007, 09:15 PM Local time: Sep 7, 2007, 08:15 PM #11 of 14
OMG IT WAS TERRORISTS!

Anyways, yeah, I don't quite understand how you can "accidentally" fly nukes anywhere. Although I suppose there could have been a miscommunication somewhere, I mean, there are a TON of people that work for the government. Must make for a nasty game of telephone.

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Old Sep 7, 2007, 09:38 PM #12 of 14
Well, you'd think the Commander in Chief would kind of sorta know why this shit is going down. What with being the COMMANDER IN CHIEF and all.
This is why "Commander in Chief" is what we call a "title."

It doesn't necessarily have to mean anything.

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Old Sep 7, 2007, 10:08 PM #13 of 14
Yes, I imagine an effective use of a president's time would be routing airplanes around the country.

Are you people for real.

Edit: Also, is it just me or does this feel like it could be the basis for a sweet episode of 24.
I don't know, you'd think he'd know something about what he's Commander in Chief of.

I'm not pinning it on solely BUSH. I can't. I'm pinning it on the administration. Because c'mon. How can this go without an explanation.

And Merv? Titles exist for a reason. His place is the Commander in Chief of our military forces. If anyone should know, it'd be him. If not KNOW, then CARE.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Sep 7, 2007, 10:11 PM Local time: Sep 7, 2007, 10:11 PM #14 of 14
This is why "Commander in Chief" is what we call a "title."

It doesn't necessarily have to mean anything.
Uh, it does mean something. It means that he's actually Commander in Chief of the US military. It doesn't mean that he has to micromanage nuclear weapons transportation and be informed on it 24/7, round the clock and on the minute.

It's because one would naturally assume that operators on the ground have enough common sense to disarm a nuclear weapon before transport.

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