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The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 10:37 PM #1 of 64
The 101 Most Influential People Who Never Lived

So, some random, self-appointed authority on iconic greatness has compiled a list of the 101 most influential fictional characters of all time.

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The list has some questionable inclusions, such as Bambi, Elmer Gantry, Al Jolson's "Mammy", and Buffy the fucking Vampire Slayer.

Meanwhile, there are some glaring omissions. This list fails to include obvious landmark characters such as Charlie Brown, Harry Potter, Mario and Bart Simpson.

Come on. How in the hell is Buffy more influential than Bart Simpson?


So, what do you think of this completely arbitrary and subjective list? Who do you think got shafted, and who precisely is "The Wandering Jew"?

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Old Aug 19, 2007, 10:39 PM #2 of 64
It needs some Aunt Jemima, Betty Crocker, and Chef Boyardee, that's for damned sure.

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Old Aug 19, 2007, 10:41 PM Local time: Aug 19, 2007, 10:41 PM #3 of 64
It needs some Aunt Jemima, Betty Crocker, and Chef Boyardee, that's for damned sure.
All three of those people are real.

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Old Aug 19, 2007, 10:44 PM #4 of 64
Oops.

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Old Aug 19, 2007, 10:54 PM Local time: Aug 19, 2007, 10:54 PM #5 of 64
Luke Skywalker making the list over Darth Vader says something. As does the exclusion of, at the very least, Bugs Bunny.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Aug 19, 2007, 11:01 PM Local time: Aug 19, 2007, 09:01 PM #6 of 64
Archie Bunker being more influential then DRACULA?

...RIGHT. This list just went out the window.

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 12:02 AM #7 of 64
Kirk and Spock tied? What about Data and Picard?!

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 12:16 AM #8 of 64
38: Godzilla I was not expecting that

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 07:16 AM #9 of 64
38: Godzilla I was not expecting that

OH Come on! Godzilla is not even a person. I agree, this list is total Bunk.

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 07:41 AM #10 of 64
Come on. How in the hell is Buffy more influential than Bart Simpson?
Well Buffy sold feminism and lady power to modern tv. Basically all Bart brings to the table is the last 14 years of mediocrity.

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 10:08 AM Local time: Aug 20, 2007, 09:08 AM #11 of 64
So Prometheus is fictional. Hercules is fictional. Pandora is fictional. So by this I am to understand that they consider all Greek mythological figures as fictional. I'm fine with that, but if they are going to consider what were essentially religious figures of the time as fictional, then why not consider any religious figure, whose existence cannot be quantifiably proven, as fictional? Well, I guess they probably didn't want to do that so that they could avoid getting all kinds of hate mail. I mean with a list that read 1. God they'd have gotten an earful, to be sure.

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 10:52 AM Local time: Aug 20, 2007, 08:52 AM #12 of 64
Couldn't the existence of the Greek gods be (dis)proven by climbing some mountains out there? =\

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 11:54 AM Local time: Aug 20, 2007, 09:54 AM #13 of 64
How Homer Simpson is not on that list if FUCKING beyond me.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 12:03 PM #14 of 64
and who precisely is "The Wandering Jew"?
In one of the gospels (which one escapes me at the moment), a man came out of the crowd and slapped Jesus while he was in calvary. Jesus said some words to him or something - and the man is doomed to walk the Earth until the Second Coming.

He was a big trend in the middle ages, like spotting the Chupacabras back in the 90s.

(While some of the omissions are unforgiveable - the lack of Harry Potter is in good taste)

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 12:08 PM #15 of 64
Hansel AND Gretel? Kirk AND Spock? Not only do this list's authors leave off several figures and include some questionable ones, but they can't even count to 101 properly.

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 12:25 PM Local time: Aug 20, 2007, 11:25 AM #16 of 64
Archie Bunker being more influential then DRACULA?

...RIGHT. This list just went out the window.
Um, yeah? Seriously, grow the fuck up and get some perspective. Of course Arching Bunker is more influential than Dracula. That show was one of the first to really bridge the race issue in a sitcom. The list is crap, but that is NOT one of the reasons. Christ.

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 01:19 PM Local time: Aug 20, 2007, 08:19 PM #17 of 64
Couldn't the existence of the Greek gods be (dis)proven by climbing some mountains out there? =\
Well, you could always say that climbing them now isn't proof that they didn't exist back then.

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 01:54 PM Local time: Aug 20, 2007, 11:54 AM #18 of 64
You know now that I think about it, for a pretend dude, Jesus Christ was pretty fucking influential and he's not on that list either.

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 02:57 PM #19 of 64
There is a historical Jesus Christ.

As to if he's as great and good as Catholics make him out to be - aye, theres the rub.

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 03:10 PM Local time: Aug 20, 2007, 03:10 PM #20 of 64
I think that rather than questioning the list, it might be helpful to see if the book is just humor or if this is an "INTERNET IS SERIOUS BUSINESS" thorough explanation and rational lines of support for each character, because if its just a book 'o laffs, don't take it so seriously.

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 04:44 PM #21 of 64
Who on earth is actually INFLUENCED by Hamlet? I mean, quoting him is one thing, but being INFLUENCED by his reasonable lunacy... that's pretty crazy, lol.

And Dr. STRANGELOVE??? He didn't even really DO anything in the movie...

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 10:37 PM Local time: Aug 20, 2007, 08:37 PM #22 of 64
Um, yeah? Seriously, grow the fuck up and get some perspective.
Oh ho, why not insult others for their opinions?

See, I look at this like this: Archie Bunker is influential, I don't deny that, but Dracula has been responsible for the rise of the vampire as a villain and tragic anti-hero (Or in some movies, heroes in their own light against more sinister supernatural entities). There's been a series of mostly successful video-games based around taking down vampires. Movies and theater plays have regularly been made featuring, or have influences from the character (If not having a character being related to the character, or charged with slaying him, his descendant, or incarnations of the man). He's appeared in Comic Books, Novels, Anime & Manga, Television, even cartoons. Dracula is at the top of what is now an archetype for villains.

I DO have perspective and that is why I was looking at the overall picture.

You could even take a look at his 'contributions' at THIS page.

You are free to disagree with me, but please keep yourself civil.

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 10:40 PM #23 of 64
And Dr. STRANGELOVE??? He didn't even really DO anything in the movie...
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Old Aug 20, 2007, 10:44 PM Local time: Aug 21, 2007, 04:44 AM #24 of 64
A resurgent Eric Roberts is to feature in the next Nolan Batman film. It should do for Roberts what it did for Rutger Hauer.

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Old Aug 20, 2007, 10:50 PM Local time: Aug 20, 2007, 10:50 PM #25 of 64
How Homer Simpson is not on that list if FUCKING beyond me.
Well, Homer may be iconic, but I don't know if he's inspirational or influential. I don't think anyone really strives to be like Homer. I think he's more of a social commentary on how lame most Americans are.

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