[General Discussion] Street Fighter vs Mortal Kombat

What is the absolute best gaming franchise? Or at least between these two.

I say Mortal Kombat. 90% of the Street Fighter games are the same thing. MK at least changes the fighting style completly from the old games and its a rpg game now too where as everytime a new Street Fighter game comes out the game is exactly the same compared the to last one. Just it will have some new characters.

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I'd pick Mortal Kombat, unless you add the crappy 3D games into the equation. But as for old school, 2D Mortal Kombat, I would definitely say it's better than Street Fighter, though I still like playing that series as well.

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Originally Posted by KCJ506

What is the absolute best gaming franchise? Or at least between these two.

I say Mortal Kombat. 90% of the Street Fighter games are the same thing.

It's true, but I don't think that makes Mortal Kombat better for having failed in one area and needing to branch out into others. That is why they changed the format, you know, because the straight up fighters weren't selling, and they didn't want to just abandon the franchise.

Street Fighter is pretty much the same in terms of the barest basics, but mechanics change from game to game, so playing SFIII ryu you might understand the moves from having played him before, but that doesn't mean you'd be able to use him well.

Plus I think Street Fighter has the advantage for having stayed in 2d (with the exception of EX), and for having a much more fluid fighting system. Any time I played MK, I always felt like hit detection and combos in general were kind of a crapshoot. Given, the last Mortal Kombat game I played was on N64, but after that I just didn't feel like it was worth my time.

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Mortal Kombat was great through 3. After that, it really wasn't worth paying attention to anymore. But, I guess, many would say that Street Fighter wasn't worth playing after the various versions of 2.

I think, in general, I've logged more hours on the MK games, simply because of all the absurdities (mastering everyone's 'Friendship,' for exampe).

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I myself like Street Fighter better. I've always been a sucker for move depth and precision which is why I love SF and Tekken 5 (not 1,2,3 or 4). While I still love MK for that little thing called FUN, I'll always go back to SF when I want a solid match.

The thing that's always bugged me the most is that the only combos in MK are the ones that the developers pre-program for you to remember. Where games like SF, Guilty Gear, or Tekken 5 allow you to use the standard combos, but because each move decently flows with one another outside of the programmed combos, it allows you to essentially "build your own combo" which makes it feel more like your character has controll over themselves instead of only being able to do 3 to 5 combos that were programmed into the game by some other guy.

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Originally Posted by Guru

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Mortal Kombat was great through 3. After that, it really wasn't worth paying attention to anymore. But, I guess, many would say that Street Fighter wasn't worth playing after the various versions of 2.

I think, in general, I've logged more hours on the MK games, simply because of all the absurdities (mastering everyone's 'Friendship,' for exampe).

It seems you have played SF II 'HF on XBL. :lolsign:
As for which I prefer, it depends which SF you match it up against. Each fighter had bad game every now and then but if you take say the best SF against MKII, then I would clearly have to say MKII. That was the last decent MK title of the series before going into the insanity of combos. What made it even worse was when it went 3-D. :doh:

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I wasn't aware there was any comparison between the two. Mortal Kombat certainly has the novelty factor going for it, but it's always been just an imitation of Street Fighter without a lot of careful thought into what made the gameplay so good. Not that Street Fighter is always perfect, but it gets a heck of a lot more right consistently than MK ever did.

Let's face it; you weren't there for the complex fighting system, you were there because when you win you get to rip the guy's heart out with your bare hands. And while that's a hell of a lot of fun, by no stretch of the imagination are the MK series better games than SF.

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I'm not sure why the older MK games are any fun. They seem extraordinarily clumsy in comparison to the newer 3D ones. The only Street Fighter I've really played is Street Fighter II, and that feels very clumsy as well. I won't vote, but so far I enjoy MK more. And I'm very very bad at pulling off fatalities, so it's not because of that. I just think switching between fighting styles and the style branching combos and all that is pretty cool.

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I vote for Killer Instinct.

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Street Fighter, i like MKII a lot, but Street Fighter II is a pure and absolutely tecnical game... and even get tournaments. And what can i say about those games now: Street Fighter III 3rd Strike and Mortal Kombat Deception are absolutely impossible to compare.

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Best gaming franchise between the two, easily Street Fighter.

I always thought MK had peaked at two. I think both kept a decent set of characters (in comparison to the absolute nobodies of Tekken). Anyone remember Sub Zero Mythologies?

I admit I sucked at MK in general, even at low difficulty it just seemed like a hell of a lot of effort to get to 'not too bad'.

I'm probably more familiar with SF. SF Alpha III had that cool World Tour mode. Looking past it, you've the likes of Puzzle Fighter (Awesome) and Pocket Fighter (Neat).

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist

I vote for Killer Instinct.

Yeah, I liked Killer Instinct and KI: Gold a lot.

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I voted SF... probably because I play fighting games more competively than anyone on this board. I normally look for how tournament worthy games are... and the MK games don't fall into this category. Fun, yes (ignoring the later installments with two button infinites and the like), but not really tournament worthy. There isn't much of a community for the MK scene, which says a lot. SF has stood the test of time (so far) as far as being competitive, which, in my eyes, makes it a superior series. No game is perfect, but I feel like SF comes out on top.

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id vote on a draw.

the street fighter series have had its share of gloriful moments, it was on the top at the SNES era.

mortal kombat however has more shitload of gore and crazy fatalities.

id doesnt matter if the street fighter series doesnt change drastically in gameplay and also in the graphics but what revolution it stirred up in the past was really huge compared to what impression mortal kombat made at that time.

both are awesome franchises in my point of view.
ive been a fan of them both when i was a kid and i am still a fan EQUALLY of them both.:biggrin:

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Street Fighter is the _much_ stronger franchise.
It also has the better games.

Not to say that the Mortal Kombat franchise is a bad one.
To make a movie analogy, where Street Fighter is the Hollywood blockbuster, Mortal Kombat is the back-row splatter movie (with all the ups and downs that come with it though, cultish followers included).

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He's definitely right. They are just so very different and are both good in their own respective ways.

I'm probably a bigger fan of Mortal Kombat though, as I've been playing them ever since I first saw the first MK hit the arcades. As for Street Fighter, I never really enjoyed them until the first Alpha.

It's also interesting that MK's stock has been on a steady rise since Deadly Alliance, while Street Fighter has been on a slow decline for some time now. Though the new XBLA game seems to have renewed interest in many.

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I handed over many hours to MKII at the arcades, it was an absolute riot. Being able to win matches simply by doing the trip move over and over, ten seconds of "HWAH, HWAH, HWAH" and ultimate victory complete with someone next to you frowning because they'd just wasted $2.

I'm not really a fan of either, though. I'd probably have to go with the Street Fighter games though, the characters and music were cooler. E.Honda makes obscure snorting noises as he somehow flies across the screen, that's a winner. Is he even in the SF games anymore? Last one I played had all these boring new goons in it.

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I vote KOF! Sorry, but I HATE Capcom, and what they do to fighting games. All Capcom games that aren't Rival Schools/ Project Justice suck IMO. Let's look at Capcom vs SNK 2. Capcom had to dumb down all the SNK characters because they made their characters look bad. (Why the hell even bother make King do the backflip for Illusion Dance, if she doesn't even get the invulnerability frame for it?) Not to mention, Capcom made air blocking which I strongly do not approve of.

Mortal Kombat is not really much of a comparison. It's fun, but that's about it, and that's really all that should matter sometimes...

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Totally agreed manny. Capcom is very bad away from Rival Schools, which is innovative. All street fighter is is a bunch of Ryu clones, and when they're not get this : they're KEN clones, who's already a ryu clone. Not enough cloning variety? Clone the evil ! CLone Akuma ! Who's just a Ken clone with one more move !! WOW.>!! Evil RYU FTW !.. not...

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I pick Mortal Kombat simply because at least, they try to innovate from game to game with the 3d fighting engine. Of course, they still havent topped Mortal Kombat 2 because making a good engine for 3d fighting game is tougher than for a 2d fighting game. But I feel that if they haste the pace of the fight a little bit and work on the engine in general, Mortal Kombat Armageddon could very well play like a 3d version on UMK 3, which i'm definately looking forward too.

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Mortal Kombat is trash. It was fun back in the day, but it hasn't aged well at all (in serious competition, at least). I realize that both sides can say the same thing, but I imagine these stands are made through casual play. MK feels sloppy when I play it. Rapid-punch to uppercut repeat. With Street Fighter and even Guilty Gear I feel like I have much more control over the characters. The gameplay is tighter, responsive, and fluid. In Mortal Kombat, it feels as though you can do the same combos over and over again no matter WHAT skill level you are and still succeed.

The characters also look like butt. Boring designs combined with crappy 3D models make for limp biscuits. I'd rather stare at Chun-Li's thunder thighs in glorious 2D.

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There wouldn't Be, a [Mortal Kombat/King of Fighters] if there wasn't a street fighter II =p.

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Mortal Kombat ftw.
I'm horribly biased since I essentially grew up with MK,but bear with me here. There is simply no other fighting game like MK. Boon and Tobias had the balls to do something unique and different,and that's what they stuck to ever since. MK just has that refreshing vibe to it that you just can't confuse with anything. And right now,it's pretty much the only non-Japanese fighting game on the market. Say what you want about the gameplay,but in terms of storyline,design and overall atmosphere the Mortal Kombat series beats the everloving fuck out of pretty much every Japanese fighting game out there (the only possible exception being the SNK games). Hell,in this aspect,the MK universe wipes the floor with many modern (J)RPGs,and that's saying something.

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As for Street Fighter,Capcom at this point has pretty much run the series into the ground. I (begrudgingly =P) admit that it's a beautiful and delicately balanced classic,but that's no excuse to release 20 different versions of the same fucking game. But then again,it is Capcom we're talking about here... -_-

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Street Fighter all the way. Putting aside the graphics comparison and stuff, Street Fighter (the first one) is a seminal fighter title and has influenced more games than MK.

Also, Mortal Kombat has way more clon characters than SF.

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Putting aside the graphics comparison and stuff, Street Fighter (the first one) is a seminal fighter title and has influenced more games than MK.

If you want to get technical,the very first Street Fighter game (Fighting Street) didn't really inspire anything,since it was a piece of shit. =P Street Fighter II,on the other hand,single-handedly fathered the genre,there's no doubt about that.

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Also, Mortal Kombat has way more clon characters than SF.

Not anymore. Since MK4,the characters who used to be palette swaps were all redesigned to make them look unique. SF,on the other hand,still has at least five characters who reuse the same set of sprites - Ryu,Ken,Akuma,Dan and Sean. -_-

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