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You know what pisses me off? Stores that charge more for larger sizes of clothing. It would make sense if the upcharge was gradual (i.e., $5 for small, $5.50 for medium, $6 for large) but instead, they just charge $2 more for XXL and above. If there were some logical reason for this other than greed, I could go along with it. Hell, they could take the $2 extra dollars and put it towards the cost of health insurance for fat people and I'd be ok, but instead I'm just lining the pockets of some rich store owner. It's not like it costs $2 to make a shirt or pants a few inches longer. It's not just obese people that get the raw deal either. In JCPenney this weekend, I was looking at identical shirts, one XXL, and one XXL Tall. The XXL Tall was $2 more.

Wal-Mart and McDonalds must have some secret arrangement to screw over fat people. First you lure the people in with the promise of a Big Mac, then you charge them more for their large clothes after they eat too much. Capitalism sucks, but it's not as if anyone's angry enough to do anything about it, right?

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If it bothers you that much, stop eating at Macdonalds. That way you'l save money on over priced shit food as well as saving cash on your clothes when you shed a few pounds.

Anyway, charging people more for unhealthy stuff is a tried and tested way to discourage them from doing it. That's why they tax the fuck out of cigarettes, in part to stop people smoking. If you have to pay more for monster sized clothes, maybe you'll think about getting some excersize.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Watch Adam Curtis's, The Century of the Self. 4 part BBC documentary. It will all be perfectly clear. Here's a little snippit:

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Adam Curtis, The Century of the Self tells the untold and sometimes controversial story of the growth of the mass-consumer society in Britain and the United States. How was the all-consuming self created, by whom, and in whose interests?

[Sigmund] Freud provided useful tools for understanding the secret desires of the masses. Unwittingly, his work served as the precursor to a world full of political spin doctors, marketing moguls, and society's belief that the pursuit of satisfaction and happiness is man's ultimate goal.

It doesn't exactly go into why XXL clothing costs more, but it does explain your last comment you made -- why no one is angry enough to care.

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Originally Posted by Shin

Anyway, charging people more for unhealthy stuff is a tried and tested way to discourage them from doing it. That's why they tax the fuck out of cigarettes, in part to stop people smoking. If you have to pay more for monster sized clothes, maybe you'll think about getting some excersize.

I'd have less of a problem with it if it were the government taxing me for it, but I sincerely doubt Wal-Mart or any other store cares about my weight. Besides, what about people who are just naturally large/tall? My entire family is on the large size; it's just the way we're built. Sure, I could lose a few pounds, but I'd still want to buy taller clothing, and I shouldn't have to pay more for that because of the way my body is built.

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Originally Posted by nuttyturnip

If there were some logical reason for this other than greed, I could go along with it.

Those greedy capitalists are at it again.

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It's not like it costs $2 to make a shirt or pants a few inches longer.

It's not a just few inches 'longer'; you must consider the whole surface area. Yes, dinosaur-sized shirts do indeed use up quite a bit more fabric.

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I shouldn't have to pay more for that because of the way my body is built.

What? No one has any duty to supply you with huge shirts. They cost more to produce, so you will pay more for it. If you don't like it, make your own shirts. And, uh, I have a very hard time believing that there are many people who 'naturally' have to wear XXL clothes. I am 6'2'' and weigh almost 200 pounds, but medium shirts fit me just fine.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by nuttyturnip

My entire family is on the large size

I hate these terms that people use to make it seems like being overweight is ok. You are not plus-sized, thick, large, big boned, or husky. You're fat and you need to lose weight before your heart explodes in your chest. On the same token, don't expect the world to turn itself upside down to accomodate people who are too lazy to burn the extra pounds off their dumpy ass.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

This may be a little too simplistic, but don't clothes for larger people cost more in terms of materials? Granted, cloth is very cheap, but you would still expect a large shirt to cost more fabric and therefore more money than a regular one.

Shin is right too, if you're having to buy larger clothes because you're overweight then you should do yourself a favour and try to slim down a bit. Excessive eating, like smoking and drinking is unnecessary, but people do it because they enjoy it. There was a guy on a TV show here a few days ago stuck in hospital because he was such a heavy drinker that his liver was shot to hell. He spent his life drinking, and said he'd spent £250,000 on alcohol over the years.

I actually find myself wearing XL t-shirts; not because I am fat but because I am very broad across the shoulders. Clothes seem to be designed for the "average" person, who has a weak build and a bit of a belly.

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Have you tried maybe shopping at a store that's for bigger people?
They have torrid out for girls now, the big and tall store, and if you're emo as hell Hot Topic works AND they sell clothes for bigger people.

But honestly? I've never heard of a company charging extra for larger sizes. I work in retail, and all of our clothes are a set price. It doesn't matter if it's XS or XXXXL, the item is still the same price.

Might be where you live, too. Maybe.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I've never heard of this either.
Do I pay less if I'm buying a small? I can still shop in the kids section...

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Originally Posted by Ulysses

Clothes seem to be designed for the "average" person, who has a weak build and a bit of a belly.

That's true, especially in the States, but you might want to wear slim-fit shirts instead, then. American Apparel, for example; their pricing is reasonable, and the shirts are also a bit longer than usual ones. If you just wear any XL, it may fit you in the shoulders, but it's probably too large otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Aardork

It's not a just few inches 'longer'; you must consider the whole surface area. Yes, dinosaur-sized shirts do indeed use up quite a bit more fabric.

An XXL shirt is not "dinosaur-sized" compared to an XL shirt, nor is an XXL Tall vastly larger than a XXL regular, and the same holds true for pants. If they wanted to charge more for extra fabric, then starting at small, each size should be progressively more expensive. Since they've just drawn a line between two sizes, theoretically I'm paying the difference in fabric for my shirt, and for Jim Bob's medium shirt as well.

For the record, I'm about 6'2", 250 pounds, the same size I've been for my entire adult life. XL is a bit small for me, and XXL is sometimes a bit large, but I like to wear my clothes on the baggy side. I think this pricing phenomenon is something relatively new, because I don't recall seeing it 5-10 years ago, but I've noticed it in just about every store I've been in.

I realize this isn't an earth-shattering issue, it's just a pet peeve of mine.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by nuttyturnip

Besides, what about people who are just naturally large/tall? My entire family is on the large size; it's just the way we're built.

Umm, no. Exercise and get a proper diet and you won't need to spend more money on clothes.

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As with other posters here, I've seen any shops charge more for larger clothes anyway. Try shopping on the internet instead if it's a phenomenon in your local area. Also, if you like the baggy look you're conceivably being charged extra for wanting to look like a rude boy rather than wearing stuff that fits. Fashion's a bitch ain't it?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by nuttyturnip

XL is a bit small for me, and XXL is sometimes a bit large, but I like to wear my clothes on the baggy side.

All I can say is that you need to lose weight and start wearing clothing that fits you properly, instead of wearing baggy clothes to hide your fat. Sorry, but that's how it is.

Originally Posted by Shin

As with other posters here, I've seen any shops charge more for larger clothes anyway. Try shopping on the internet instead if it's a phenomenon in your local area.

Actually, I haven't seen it in many real stores, but it's very often like that on the internet. Take the lovely flatfalls shirts, for instance.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I like how people in this thread seem to only be thinking in extremes. XXL is suddenly "dinosaur-sized," wearing clothes a little loose for comfort is surely only to be trendy and fashionable like rappers and other "rude boys." Exaggerations are far more fun than reality!

I'm 5'11" and weigh roughly 225 lbs., and I can fit into a regular XL shirt if I want to without any trouble. Instead, I wear XXL because it's much more comfortable, looks a bit better I think, and depending on the brand some XL shirts can make it appear as though I have the manboobs of a god when I don't at all. I also prefer a little extra length than what XL tends to have, not for fashion and to impress my posse, but so that if my shirt gets caught on something and gets pulled up (which tends to happen with the poorly made school chairs that often have loose screws on the backs). I think we can all agree that no one should have to see my hairy back, right?

It's silly for stores to charge that much extra between the jump from XL to XXL when it isn't that much of a change. It isn't just some phenomenon in Nutty's area either, as I've seen the same thing at Sears, JCPenny, Dillards, Wal-Mart, etc. around here.

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I like how $2 is a big deal for larger clothes. Next you'll be complaining that larger portions of food cost more.

Oh.

Call me crazy, but I'm 5'11" and 155 pounds, in great shape since I'm fairly active, and I don't shove burgers and cake down my gullet. My dad is 5'9", 245 pounds, in horrible shape since he isn't very active, and he drinks a ton of beer and drinks gravy from the pot.

Wonder what the deal is.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Tritoch

I like how people in this thread seem to only be thinking in extremes. XXL is suddenly "dinosaur-sized," wearing clothes a little loose for comfort is surely only to be trendy and fashionable like rappers and other "rude boys." Exaggerations are far more fun than reality!

Mate, I didn't even know they made sizes bigger than XL. Pardon us for not being morbidly obese I'm sure.

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Originally Posted by Parn

I like how $2 is a big deal for larger clothes. Next you'll be complaining that larger portions of food cost more.

Oh.

Call me crazy, but I'm 5'11" and 155 pounds, in great shape since I'm fairly active, and I don't shove burgers and cake down my gullet. My dad is 5'9", 245 pounds, in horrible shape since he isn't very active, and he drinks a ton of beer and drinks gravy from the pot.

Wonder what the deal is.

It's called varying metabolism for one thing. A friend of mine eats triple-decker sandwiches as snacks, is the same height as me, does less exercising, and has trouble keeping his weight above 140 lbs. As for your dad, why is he not dead if he's drinking gravy from the pot and never does anything?

Originally Posted by Shin

Mate, I didn't even know they made sizes bigger than XL. Pardon us for not being morbidly obese I'm sure.

Morbidly obese is XXXL or those people who actually need to buy XXL shirts or their gut hangs out. Pardon me for not accepting an exaggeration as fact.

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Originally Posted by Tritoch

Morbidly obese is XXXL or those people who actually need to buy XXL shirts or their gut hangs out. Pardon me for not accepting an exaggeration as fact.

Morbid Obesity is being 100lbs over your ideal body weight or having a BMI of 40 or more.

Your BMI is 31.4 so whilst you're not morbidly obese, you are technically obese and although I am exaggerating slightly, you're a bit beyond "Big boned" don't you think?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Yeah, the closest you get to paying less for smaller sizes is shopping in the kids section...which I highly suggest if youre a female 8)
Seriously, they have some nice clothes now for little kids. Little girls Large fits me great and its so stupidly cheap.

From what Ive seen, Torrid has some really nice stuff; Id probably shop there if I was bigger.



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Originally Posted by Senorita Preved

Yeah, the closest you get to paying less for smaller sizes is shopping in the kids section...which I highly suggest if youre a female 8)
Seriously, they have some nice clothes now for little kids. Little girls Large fits me great and its so stupidly cheap.

From what Ive seen, Torrid has some really nice stuff; Id probably shop there if I was bigger.

In England, kids clothes are free from VAT too so they're much cheaper. ^_^

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Tritoch

It's called varying metabolism for one thing. A friend of mine eats triple-decker sandwiches as snacks, is the same height as me, does less exercising, and has trouble keeping his weight above 140 lbs. As for your dad, why is he not dead if he's drinking gravy from the pot and never does anything?

Blah blah blah, metabolism blah blah blah. Gee, haven't heard this one before. Want to increase your metabolism? Get off your ass and start exercising instead of making that bullshit "my metabolism is slower, it's not fair that Lazy Skinny Friend X can chomp on burgers all day and I can't" excuse. Of course it's not fair. It's also not fair that a friend of mine can put in a lot less effort during a workout and gain way more muscle than I. It's genetics. You play with the cards you're dealt and you move on.

Or, you can keep making excuses. But you sure won't get any sympathy from me for having to pay $2 more for clothes.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Shin

Morbid Obesity is being 100lbs over your ideal body weight or having a BMI of 40 or more.

Your BMI is 31.4 so whilst you're not morbidly obese, you are technically obese and although I am exaggerating slightly, you're a bit beyond "Big boned" don't you think?

Oh definitely, I fully admit that I'm overweight. I don't recall ever claiming that I'm "big boned" or anything like that. I could probably lose a decent amount of weight if I bothered to figure up an exercise regiment and eat a little better (although it's not like I do no exercise at all or shovel burgers into my mouth). I don't feel unhealthy and I look decent enough, so I'm satisfied with it.

Originally Posted by Parn

Blah blah blah, metabolism blah blah blah. Gee, haven't heard this one before. Want to increase your metabolism? Get off your ass and start exercising instead of making that bullshit "my metabolism is slower, it's not fair that Lazy Skinny Friend X can chomp on burgers all day and I can't" excuse. Of course it's not fair. It's also not fair that a friend of mine can put in a lot less effort during a workout and gain way more muscle than I. It's genetics. You play with the cards you're dealt and you move on.

Or, you can keep making excuses. But you sure won't get any sympathy from me for having to pay $2 more for clothes.

Nice job with the hostility when I never once complained or claimed that I was dealt an unfair hand. I was simply responding to your stereotypical "I'm not fat, so the only explanation is that all obese people must be immovable lumps that don't even try to eat healthy" statement. While a good number of blobs do use body chemistry as an excuse, that doesn't mean there isn't truth to it in some cases. Is that my case? Hell no. I enjoy how I live and I don't feel or look unhealthy, so I'm comfortable with it. Maybe a bit of my problem is genetic, but not so much that I couldn't overcome it with some work.

Way to turn a simple complaint about a price ripoff into "lol shutup Fatty McFatfat." Perhaps instead of being so aggressive you could try to help your dad to stop guzzling alcohol and gravy?

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Originally Posted by Shin

If it bothers you that much, stop eating at Macdonalds. That way you'l save money on over priced shit food as well as saving cash on your clothes when you shed a few pounds.

Yeah nuttyturnip, duh. If you were skinny you wouldn't have to question the logic in the pricing of larger sized clothing.

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Fine, I'm a fat, lazy American, and I'm ok with that. So are hundreds of thousands of my fellow countrymen. It's not like they're going to need a forklift to get me off my couch anytime soon, and that's not really the point of this thread.

The point is that stores have decided to profit off a segment of the population, and they're not doing it out of the goodness of their hearts (like say, a cigarette tax). What would happen if Sears decided to charge non-English speaking customers $2 more for everything they buy?

Where are all the other overweight members of GFF, anyway? It's not Tritoch and I are the only fat people here.

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