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Old Jun 5, 2006, 07:09 PM #1 of 17
Cryptozoology

The LocH Ness thread made me wonder about how many folks believe in sea monsters, bigfoot, and various other creatures. I think there's enough circumstantial evidence to support the idea that a bigfoot/abominable snowman type primate does exist in certain places. There is also alot of similarity regrading lake monsters from around the world, so I think some as yret undiscovered species exists in some deep lakes. The recent discovery of many unknown species in New Guinea, some being fairly large tree kangaroos, gives hope that there are still alot of new species yet to be found.

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Old Jun 5, 2006, 07:23 PM Local time: Jun 5, 2006, 06:23 PM #2 of 17
In lakes, I doubt it, but I think it's possible for there to be some kind of large creatures living near the ocean floor. I don't know enough about biology to say whether or not it's likely to be true, but I suppose it could be. Bigfoot seems a little more far fetched to me than some kind of sea creature.

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Old Jun 5, 2006, 09:52 PM #3 of 17
If there was a Loch Ness monster, it should have been found. It's a damn lake and nothing enters nor leaves. But a bigfoot or yeti mey exist. They usually appear in places remote enough that they can elude detection. But I still don't put too much faith in the expectation that these things will be discovered.

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Old Jun 5, 2006, 10:40 PM Local time: Jun 5, 2006, 05:40 PM #4 of 17
I am always open to the possibilty that creatures like the loch ness monster to exist, probably not in loch ness but in other areas around the world.

In fact I almost wanted to be a cryptozoologist just so i could hunt these things down, but due to the fact that I don't like to "tough it out" in the wilderness and stuff I don't think I am cut out for the job.

But as they say, we know more about the lunar surface than we do about the oceans of our planet.

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Old Jun 5, 2006, 11:11 PM #5 of 17
I'm a fan of these mysterious creatures. Even if they're not real, it's still fun reading up on them. I do believe that some of them probably do exist, as we haven't yet explored every inch of the planet yet. Even now we're discovering new animals, such as a yellow-furred mouse a year or so back, and some creatures believed long dead have appeared in the present.

Fascinating stuff, really.

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Old Jun 5, 2006, 11:28 PM #6 of 17
Isn't there still stuff that's frozen in ice somewhere? I'm pretty sure I read something on that.

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Old Jun 6, 2006, 03:38 PM #7 of 17
This is a site about our local bigfoots
http://www.texasbigfoot.com/

There are some incredibly thick wood here in East Texas, so it seems possible. They though there were no more bears here and now their presence has been confirmed so who knows.

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Old Jun 6, 2006, 06:28 PM Local time: Jun 6, 2006, 04:28 PM #8 of 17
I used to befascinated by the possibility of these HUEG creatures existing. I used to keep up with reading on rumors and stories and stuff like that on the web. Then I stopped reading. I may be better because of it. Now I'm content with just being in awe os bears. Bears are no joke.

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Old Jun 8, 2006, 04:05 AM Local time: Jun 8, 2006, 02:05 AM #9 of 17
Probably my biggest interest is in this field, if you can go to your local library and check out Cryptozoology A-Z book, along with whatever else books they might have on the subject or the paranormal. The earth is not 100% explored yet, so there has to be something out there. There have been many accounts of locals and natives reporting animals/things that haven't been documented scientifically and all that. What about the first sighting of a giant panda until its actual capture like 60 years later. There's something out there, all the unbelievers can diaf.

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Old Jun 11, 2006, 09:21 PM Local time: Jun 11, 2006, 07:21 PM #10 of 17
I like to read up on it now and then (This is a good site to look at, BTW...). And I do believe that some of them do exist. I mean as many before this post said, new and/or "extinct" cretures are being (re-)discovered. So there is a chance that the ones that live in secluded places like those who live in wooded areas and those who live in water and never come out are actualy out there, but will probaly never be widely known/seen.

Heck, I even saw this really strange looking bug when it just landed after getting a hole in it's wing. It looked like a cross between one of those big weavels and a dragonfly, it like what this guys discribing exsept it was in Ohio. I just wish I had my camera before it tried to fly off again even with a hole in it's wing. I never seen one of them since. I'm still trying to figure out what it was.

So I have no doubt that some of these animals do exsist....this is a big planet....not every corner of it has been searched yet.

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Old Jun 21, 2006, 11:30 AM #11 of 17
Originally Posted by Maico
Probably my biggest interest is in this field, if you can go to your local library and check out Cryptozoology A-Z book, along with whatever else books they might have on the subject or the paranormal. The earth is not 100% explored yet, so there has to be something out there. There have been many accounts of locals and natives reporting animals/things that haven't been documented scientifically and all that. What about the first sighting of a giant panda until its actual capture like 60 years later. There's something out there, all the unbelievers can diaf.
I highly recommend Cryptozoology A-Z, by Loren Coleman. And "Unexplained" by Jerome Clark. and yeah, there are sightings of lake monsters in Loch Ness, Lake Champlain, and most large lakes from here to Timbuktu.

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Old Jun 21, 2006, 12:20 PM #12 of 17
I'm just wondering how a creature - bigfoot(s), for example - survive with presumably a small number of the same species with which to mate for so many years. And if they do continue to reproduce, what does and has stopped them from growing into more noticeable numbers?

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Old Jun 21, 2006, 01:09 PM Local time: Jun 21, 2006, 12:09 PM #13 of 17
Can't someone just sonar Loch Ness and find out once and for all? Does Nessie have stealth shielding or something?

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Old Jun 21, 2006, 01:30 PM Local time: Jun 22, 2006, 01:30 AM #14 of 17
Originally Posted by Eleo
I'm just wondering how a creature - bigfoot(s), for example - survive with presumably a small number of the same species with which to mate for so many years. And if they do continue to reproduce, what does and has stopped them from growing into more noticeable numbers?
Now you mention it. Never cross in my mind how they actually reproduce. Is there any male/female bigfoot? or perhaps they give birth differently? (let's say... by intercourse using gorillas or monkey-related creatures)

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Can't someone just sonar Loch Ness and find out once and for all? Does Nessie have stealth shielding or something?
I've been thinking about this as well. Why dont they just enter the lake with some kind of submarine and do a full investigation? Anyone could explain the reason behind this? Has there been any project like this actually?

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Old Jun 21, 2006, 01:53 PM #15 of 17
Originally Posted by eriol
I've been thinking about this as well. Why dont they just enter the lake with some kind of submarine and do a full investigation? Anyone could explain the reason behind this? Has there been any project like this actually?
They have used sonar in the Loch. However, it is a very ineffective method considering the structure of the lake. There are many caves, undercuts, and ledges which give the possibility for the Loch Ness monster to hide while they are performing a search. Because of this possibility, they cannot rule out that they might have simply missed the creature because it is hiding.
One time, they caught on sonar what appeared to be the the flipper of the beast, but later found out that it was nothing but a flipper-shaped outcropping.

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Old Jun 22, 2006, 08:33 AM #16 of 17
Nessie is pretty much fake. That famous photo was done by some submarine toy and crap by this French guy I believe. He admitted that the photo was a hoax on his deathbed. However, everything else is still fair game. Who doesn't want a real life Chewbacca?

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