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It's a sad day for fans of Gargoyles
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Old Jun 30, 2006, 01:24 PM #1 of 50
It's a sad day for fans of Gargoyles

http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=11250

Apparently Disney may not be releasing the rest of the DVDs because they don't like the DVD sales so far. I'm amazed that a company that likes to make their movies unavailable for years at a time and then repeatedly having a limited edition supply every now and then actually cares about their sales.

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 01:45 PM Local time: Jun 30, 2006, 03:45 PM #2 of 50
I remember that the soundtrack was pretty amazing. I didn't watch many episodes though. It had the potential to be a good dark cartoon and Disney screw it up making the characters too...mmm...Disney's like...

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 01:48 PM #3 of 50
FUCK FUCK FUCK
FUCK FUCK FUCK
FUCK FUCK FUCK
FUCK!

This is horrible news. They just had one freaking half of a season to go. (I would have minded it less if they didn't release the Goliath Chronicles).

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 01:49 PM #4 of 50
Ugh, if they don't come out with Season 2, volume 2, I'll put them on my enemy list. I thought sales for the first season was the reason why season 2, volume 1 was released, and now they're saying otherwise? Like, that's total crap.

I could care less for a Goliath Chronicles boxset, but they had better bring volume 2 out!

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 02:54 PM Local time: Jun 30, 2006, 01:54 PM #5 of 50
My sister has been wanting to get this show on DVD for a while, but she hasn't bought any of it yet. I should tell her that if she doesn't go buy it now she may never get to have all of it on DVD.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 30, 2006, 04:38 PM #6 of 50
But Rock, it's not even completely released yet.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 05:36 PM Local time: Jun 30, 2006, 04:36 PM #7 of 50
Originally Posted by Mucknuggle
But Rock, it's not even completely released yet.
That's what I meant. If she doesn't buy what is out now (Season 1 and the first half of season 2), she'll never be able to get the rest of it (the second half of season 2 and the Goliath Chronicles, though she doesn't care for that too much) on DVD, since they're basing the release of Season 2, Volume 2 on the sales of the other sets. Basically, if she doesn't contribute to the sells of the current sets out now, she may never be able to see future sets.

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 05:45 PM Local time: Jun 30, 2006, 03:45 PM #8 of 50
Well I love how they are threatening to pull the plug on the DVD releases when they have done absolutely nil advertising and to my understanding, I don't think the series did all that well ratings wise when it was originally on air, did it?

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 06:01 PM #9 of 50
Originally Posted by guyinrubbersuit
Well I love how they are threatening to pull the plug on the DVD releases when they have done absolutely nil advertising
Yeah that is really annoying. Know how I found out when Season 1 was put on DVD? I'm obsessed enough with the series that every couple months I typed Gargoyles in the Amazon.com search bar. I'd guess most fans of the series aren't that obsessed.

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 06:16 PM Local time: Jun 30, 2006, 04:16 PM #10 of 50
I think I just found out at a Target one day. Never really sat down to watch them because I didn't have cable at the time. I certainly would like to have them though. I'm a fan of animation and Keith David, he plays Goliath and the black guy from They Live and Spawn in the animated series.

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 06:33 PM Local time: Jun 30, 2006, 05:33 PM #11 of 50
The show was in syndication when it first came on, and moved to ABC for the Goliath Chronicles. It only started coming on cable after its initial run.

I used to watch the show, but I've never been as a big a fan as my sister has. I realized this when I watched an episode a couple of years ago and didn't really like it that much anymore. If my sister buys the DVDs I may try rewatching it from the beginning, but I doubt I'll ever buy them for myself.

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 06:58 PM Local time: Jun 30, 2006, 05:58 PM #12 of 50
Originally Posted by DarkMageOzzie
I'm amazed that a company that likes to make their movies unavailable for years at a time and then repeatedly having a limited edition supply every now and then actually cares about their sales.
You, uh, do know that the reason that they put movies "in the vault" is to drive sales through the roof, right?

By releasing said movie for "A LIMITED TIME ONLY!" it not only encourages people to buy them because they know they may not see another copy for 10 years. Fail so hard.

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 08:06 PM #13 of 50
Son of a bitch. First Boy Meets World and now this.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jun 30, 2006, 08:10 PM #14 of 50
Originally Posted by acid
You, uh, do know that the reason that they put movies "in the vault" is to drive sales through the roof, right?

By releasing said movie for "A LIMITED TIME ONLY!" it not only encourages people to buy them because they know they may not see another copy for 10 years. Fail so hard.
I guess that may be true, but that doesn't mean they're not assholes for what they're doing with Gargoyles. They haven't advertised it at all, they can't expect it to sell like one of their overrated movies would.

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 10:03 PM Local time: Jun 30, 2006, 08:03 PM #15 of 50
Originally Posted by KCJ506
Boy Meets World
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Old Jun 30, 2006, 10:09 PM #16 of 50
;____; Welp, at least I've got Duck Tales to fall back on.

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(now if only they had actually released the episodes in televised order rather than some random bullshit (wtf part 2 of a two part episode randomly in the middle of the first disc)

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 11:11 PM #17 of 50
Originally Posted by DarkMageOzzie
I guess that may be true, but that doesn't mean they're not assholes for what they're doing with Gargoyles. They haven't advertised it at all, they can't expect it to sell like one of their overrated movies would.
Ah, but Disney doesn't care one whit about the TV shows. The only reason Gargoyles came to DVD in the first place was because the fans clamoured for it. Obviously they're not going to bother spending money on advertising for something not movie-related.

I heard the CDRR and DS boxsets are edited episodes. Is that true? If so, I have low hopes for Tale Spin :(

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 11:33 PM #18 of 50
Originally Posted by KCJ506
Son of a bitch. First Boy Meets World and now this.
Wait, what? What do you mean about Boy Meets World? I own Season 1, I'm waiting for Season 5 to come out because that's the one with my favorite episode. Tell me they didn't decide not to release the rest of the seasons! :aargh:

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Old Jun 30, 2006, 11:51 PM #19 of 50
Originally Posted by naturally_tipsy
Wait, what? What do you mean about Boy Meets World? I own Season 1, I'm waiting for Season 5 to come out because that's the one with my favorite episode. Tell me they didn't decide not to release the rest of the seasons! :aargh:
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=5868

Basically it says that because sales were down, they won't release S4-S7 on DVD.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jul 1, 2006, 02:26 AM #20 of 50
Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf
Ah, but Disney doesn't care one whit about the TV shows. The only reason Gargoyles came to DVD in the first place was because the fans clamoured for it.
That may be true but not all fans are obsessed like me and using Amazon's search bar constantly to look for it. So alot of fans of the series won't even know it's on DVD in the first place. And how costly would it be to have commercials for it on their own channels?

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Old Jul 1, 2006, 03:39 AM Local time: Jul 1, 2006, 02:39 AM #21 of 50
Originally Posted by DarkMageOzzie
I guess that may be true, but that doesn't mean they're not assholes for what they're doing with Gargoyles. They haven't advertised it at all, they can't expect it to sell like one of their overrated movies would.
The fans bitched for Gargoyles, they got it, and it didn't sell.

They would be assholes if they said "fuck you, you'll never see it on DVD". They said "fine, we'll give it a shot", and no one bought it. You can hardly blame them for not supporting something that no one wants.

I mean, do you really expect a company to continue to sell a product that doesn't sell?

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Jul 1, 2006, 08:54 AM #22 of 50
You can't expect EVERY fan to be able to buy the sets as soon as they come out. Some fans don't have much money and are maybe waiting to get it for their birthdays and whatnot. Some people only buy sets once they've gone down in price, and that can take years. Season 2 volume 1 is like, close to, or over, $50 Canadian, whch can be out of the price range of some people.

I think Disney is jumping the gun too soon, so to speak. They should at least wait a bit more before simply assuming nobody is buying the sets.

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Old Jul 1, 2006, 11:14 AM Local time: Jul 1, 2006, 10:14 AM #23 of 50
Originally Posted by wvlfpvp
;____; Welp, at least I've got Duck Tales to fall back on.
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Old Jul 1, 2006, 02:53 PM Local time: Jul 1, 2006, 12:53 PM #24 of 50
Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf
I heard the CDRR and DS boxsets are edited episodes. Is that true? If so, I have low hopes for Tale Spin
I'm not even gonna buy the Darkwing Duck set coming out next month if it's the crappy edited version. I want the episodes that were banned from toon disney too. ;_;

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Old Jul 1, 2006, 02:55 PM Local time: Jul 1, 2006, 12:55 PM #25 of 50
Originally Posted by acid
The fans bitched for Gargoyles, they got it, and it didn't sell.

They would be assholes if they said "fuck you, you'll never see it on DVD". They said "fine, we'll give it a shot", and no one bought it. You can hardly blame them for not supporting something that no one wants.

I mean, do you really expect a company to continue to sell a product that doesn't sell?

No, especially when they don't take the effort to do some sort of advertising.

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