Pirate Bay? Sweden bites the dust.

It seems the Swedish government is coming down hard on these bit torrent servres.

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SITE DOWN - WILL BE UP AND FULLY FUNCTIONAL WITHIN A DAY OR TWO


In the morning of 2006-05-31 the Swedish National Criminal Police showed a search warrant to Rix|Port80 personnell. The warrant was valid for all datacentres of Rix|Port80 and was directed at The Pirate Bay. The allegation was breach of copy-right law, alternatively assisting breach of copy-right law.

The police officers were allowed access to the racks where the TPB servers and other servers are hosted. All servers in the racks were clearly marked as to which sites run on each. The police took down all servers in the racks, including the non-commercial site Piratbyrån, the mission of which is to defend the rights of TPB via public debate.

According to police officers simultaneously questioning the president of Rix|Port80, the purpose of the search warrant is to take down TPB in order to secure evidence of the allegations mentioned above.

The necessity for securing technical evidence for the existance of a web-service which is fully official, the legality of which has been under public debate for years and whose principals are public persons giving regular press interviews, could not be explained. Asked for other reasoning behind the choice to take down a site, without knowing wether it is illegal or not, the officers explained that this is normal.

The TPB can receive compensation from the Swedish state in case that the upcoming legal processes show that TPB is indeed legal.

Other servers like www.asiandvdclub.org has been affected.

Can another bit torrent site as big as suprnova come down?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Or perhaps not:
http://www.the-inquirer.net/?article=32110

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I think the bigger they are, the more likely to come down they are, so yes. It seems like a complete possibility. The key to PSP, apparently, is by staying small enough to fly under the radar. That makes me sad, though. TPB is where I got a lot of the Kaizers Orchestra fan videos that are really unavailable through any other torrent site or download location .

I'm sure TPB is itching to go to court over this. They seem to really enjoy snubbing their noses at people who try to take them down for copyright infringement.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

It would be bad if any torrent site went down, but I have to say that I don't care to much for TPB, as it's not my preferred site for torrents. But still, if it is permanently shut down (which I doubt it will be), I would still miss it, as it's always good to have other options.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Well, I can't say I ever used it, but it sucks just the same.

I only hope Isohunt doesn't ever go down, then I'll just be screwed.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Arkhangelsk

I think the bigger they are, the more likely to come down they are, so yes. It seems like a complete possibility. The key to PSP, apparently, is by staying small enough to fly under the radar.

The legality of TPB has been looked into by Swedish prosecutors in the past and it's been deemed that there's nothing there to press charges against. So in a sense this has happened before, it's just on a larger scale now due to the more direct involvment of the MPAA and the US goverment.

I was just reading the MPAA press release and I'm currently :eyebrow:

I wish they'd atleast stop with idiotic shit like "The major motion picture studios lost an estimated $6.1 billion to piracy in 2005".

also

How ya doing, buddy?

I'd hate to see a future where you really can't pirate anything without being extremely underground about it.

How ya doing, buddy?

This isn't going to last and we're just going to get to see more extremely rude TPB responses to legal threats.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by seanne

I wish they'd atleast stop with idiotic shit like "The major motion picture studios lost an estimated $6.1 billion to piracy in 2005".

They should change that to "The major motion picture studios lost an estimated $6.1 billion to putting out lots of crappy movies in 2005"

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All I need is MiniNova and search engines like IsoHunt or TorrentSearch. Other sites can do whatever they like =). But it's sad that they are striking back on other web sites like SuprNova.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I love the Pirate Bay. When they first went down like two days ago, I fucking cried. I get EVERYTHING there...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

PirateBay might be just the beginning. But as long as there are alternatives like mininova or torrentspy, we don't have to worry

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Musharraf

But as long as there are alternatives like mininova or torrentspy, we don't have to worry

Don't forget that mininova and torrentspy are sites that just catalog torrents and don't run trackers of their own. So this may cause problems for people who didn't use TPB directly, as well.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by seanne

Don't forget that mininova and torrentspy are sites that just catalog torrents and don't run trackers of their own. So this may cause problems for people who didn't use TPB directly, as well.

Wat does that mean? You mean when it say 50 seeders, chances are there are only 5?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Wat does that mean? You mean when it say 50 seeders, chances are there are only 5?

No. Mininova.org is like a directory. It lists torrents from OTHER sites (and also receives stats from the torrent's trackers), but does not have any of its own, nor does it have a tracker.

FELIPE NO

Actually, Mininova hosts .torrent files. You can even upload your own to their directory. They're not a tracker, but they have their own torrents.

Either way, shutting down ThePirateBay will accomplish nothing but three other link/tracker pages to emerge in place of the original.

Fighting a P2P protocol is fighting a lost cause.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Sir VG

No. Mininova.org is like a directory. It lists torrents from OTHER sites (and also receives stats from the torrent's trackers), but does not have any of its own, nor does it have a tracker.

Whoa wtf how fukken gay is that, I didn't know that O_O

Jam it back in, in the dark.

They'll eventually start fighting the users.
Happened with the Donkey... Will happen here.
Only... Then there'll be less people to buy their stuff. Plus, two new methods of P2P will emerge. I guess unless "they" go for full net traffic control, P2P will not be something that can be killed.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/polit...419445,00.html (German article)

Apparently US officials forced the Swedish administration to shut PB down. Super =/

Also: http://www.sonymusicstudios.co.uk/

lol (?)

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Rock

Either way, shutting down ThePirateBay will accomplish nothing but three other link/tracker pages to emerge in place of the original.

Yeah, the latest news is that TPB will be up and running again in a matter of days.

Originally Posted by Musharraf

Apparently US officials forced the Swedish administration to shut PB down. Super =/

That's essentially what happened. But the controversy lies in the descision by our minister of justice to go above the police and prosecutions office and force the police into taking this action. There being no legal grounds/reasons to do the raid and confiscate TPB servers.

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Also: http://www.sonymusicstudios.co.uk/

lol (?)

lol indeed. He hacked several servers of other big music sites as well.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Rock

Actually, Mininova hosts .torrent files. You can even upload your own to their directory. They're not a tracker, but they have their own torrents.

Ah. Thanks for the correction. Although a .torrent file really is a worthless piece of data w/o a tracker.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I don't really miss TPB that much, well I loved the way they responded to all the assholes requesting torrents removal but latelly downloading from Pirates was a risky buisness. I mean, shitload of fakes and other "additional" stuff that stupid people put on the tracker.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by PiccoloNamek

I only hope Isohunt doesn't ever go down, then I'll just be screwed.

Indeed, that's my main workhorse in terms of torrent finding. A blow to that would be a blow to my animu habits, which might in turn somehow free up more time. But that's not saying anything too light heartening.

How ya doing, buddy?

I didn't use PirateBay much, but I am still pissed at how this was handled (and many people on swedish forums as well).

Seanne already brought up the point about the Minister forcing the police into action. Some political parties have voiced their dislike, and I think at least one of them said they were going to go even further (bringing the police into it once again XD).
This move also affected several other sites which have no connection to filesharing at all. They were in the same "server park" (is that the English term, not sure?).

Not to mention, as far as I know, it isn't illegal to host .torrent files on your servers (in Sweden at least).

Will be interesting to see what happens in the next few days for sure. I wonder what people here will say if The Pirate Bay is up and running again soon like it says on their site... hehe.

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TPB has dodged the bullet times before, I'm sure they could rebound.

Jam it back in, in the dark.