[PC] Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning - You can't play as Nagash so WHAT'S THE POINT?

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I reckon it's time for a thread, myself!

Okay, so here's the deal. I've had a fair bit of experience with MMOs - EverQuest being the first - and I've always been a pretty casual player. None of them have really been able to hold my interest for really long, I usually make it to about halfway up the level ladder before falling asleep and plummeting back down, rolling out the door I came in. "Make mine single player" and all that.

But here's what my friends tell me. EA Mythic, the guys making this game, have also developed Dark Age of Camelot, an MMO I've never played but otherwise heard very good things about. If the previous title is any indication, they say, then this game will be the apex of PvP. It's Warhammer, so I expected it to be pretty carnal, but it turns it that it will focus almost entirely on player vs. player combat to the point where much of the experience and progress a player earns will be gained by beating up as many other people as possible. If WoW was responsible for the rebirth of player/environment interaction in the genre, then this game would be the next step in player/player involvement.

Big words, I know, but they're majorly excited and now I am too. Most of them swore off MMOs entirely after they quit WoW about a year ago (I lasted about half as long as they did - nothing against the game itself, it was great, just not in my nature to play a game like that to death), but they say this is the one to come back for. Beta sign-ups are still open, but the game itself isn't set for release until the second quarter of '08, and that's if they don't push it back again.

So is anyone else thinking about playing, or heard anything cool from the devs about what's going to be in it? Is it Hammer Time for anyone else, or are you too legit to commit?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Anyone with a beta key to this can contact me. I'll either buy it or we'll work something out. I wanna try it.

Also, see my AION thread:

http://www.gamingforce.org/forums/mu...beta-keys.html

How ya doing, buddy?

EA Mythic.

Hmm.

If it weren't for EA completely ruining Ultima Online, I might consider trying this game out. But I just can't put any faith in companies that EA has their fingers around.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I'm definitely interested in this game. I'm actually glad they decided to push it back once instead of rushing it out and releasing a buggy and incomplete game *coughUT3cough*. PvP in WoW has always felt tacked on and an after thought by the developers to me. Even with the whole BG daily quests, and the arenas, I can't shake the vibe that WoW really is still a PvE only game despite what Blizzard's reps will claim when stating they focus on both areas. That's why I'm really interested in this game because it sounds like it's going to have a PvP gameplay model that makes for exciting combat, and true war against fictitious factions.

Even with that said, I'm not holding my breath since there's been plenty of games that have been hyped as the next big MMO or the "WoW killer" that haven't exactly panned out. If anyone's looking for a fansite for this game, I occasionally check Warhammer Alliance for recent news on the beta.

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So in researching the game, I found some cool features the devs are trying to implement as we speak:

- Healers won't be bots. Mythic is attempting to quell the MMO standard of standing back and throwing out heals and nothing else. The primary Dark Elf support class, Disciple, can dual-wield swords for example. Not just as a PvP option, either, that's their normal weapon setup. They're primary function, aside from heals, will be damage and dots.

- Unlike WoW, Good and Evil race zones will be parallel to each other from the moment you start, such as the Dwarven starting zone being directly across from the Greenskin one. This is to give players a sense of war or ongoing battle at all times. You have to be in PvP-mode constantly. Each zone will be divided into one of three tiers based on level where combat can take place.

- Shared quests. I don't mean like in WoW or EverQuest, where a player can share any open quests with someone in their group, I mean the entire zone automatically shares any quest anyone in it happens to have. If you wander into a new zone and take up a quest to kill 20 rats, for example, you automatically get credit for every rat anyone else with that quest kills in the entire zone. Rewards such as gold or items are then split and shared between everyone involved. This option can be turned on or off as the player permits.

- Skull harvesting. Just like Diablo, you get a small war trophy for each person you defeat in PvP. At a certain point, you can adorn your character model with skulls of people you've slain.

- Dynamic character models. As your character levels, they become larger, more muscular, and generally much more imposing.

- Guild Alliances. Several guilds can join into a much larger alliance, giving everyone within those guilds a new, shared chat and raid window. This can lead to raids of potentially hundreds of players for realm vs. realm combat.

So yeah, pretty exciting. Even if MMOs aren't you're thing, It's still an interesting direction for the genre to go towards. May this'll be the one I can finally stick to.

I was speaking idiomatically.

i actually just got set of 3 beta keys for this. the servers are currently down as they're preparing for beta phase 2, but the gameplay videos on youtube completely destroy WoW.

very excited to play this one.

EDIT: oh wait, an administrator has it set so my posts don't appear to anyone but myself and mods. fuck it.

forum has descended beyond the point of repair anyway. 8 users viewing gaming? enjoy your black hole.

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I don't think I'll get to actually play this, but it sounds like the dev team has put a lot of work into making things interesting (their little video segments are especially amusing).
Of all the fantasy MMOs out there, this is the one that more than any other needs to match or exceed WoW - if I recall correctly, Warcraft and Starcraft are what happened when Blizzard couldn't get permission to use GW's IPs.

FELIPE NO

I actually had no intention of playing this. Then I saw how awesome the dark elves looked and was entertained by listening to one of the devs talking in a video. So I'm going to try this. Age of Conan will be out first and I'm going to try that. But I'm still giving this a shot regardless of anything else.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Done by Mythic. I used to play DAoC myself, including all expansions but I quit. They fubared a shit load.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

YES YES and more YES!! I have been following this game via these two links


EA Mythic | Warhammer Online Official Site

http://www.warhammeralliance.com/ ( forum for Warhammer )

and am quite impressed. I played WoW from day 1 to July 7 2006 and got burnt out fast. I think maybe I played too much


Mage 229 days play time
Priest 43 days play time
Rogue 10 days play time.

I quit right after they released Nax, ( quit on 2nd boss )


One thing that strikes me good about Warhammer is its focus on total war. WoW lore seemed to focus more on PvE and the uneasy true between the alliance and Horde which always bothered me having started the series back in WC2.

The only turn off with WAR I have is pretty much me, I don't have as much time to play it as I did WoW... I only hope that all content is available to people regardless of being in a big raiding guild... Who knows.

I'm pre ordering Tuesday when I start my part time job at Game Stop

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I am totally necrobumping this thread, but considering people have been playing the beta, I have a question to ask.

My computer is 4 years old. At least, the processor is, it's an Athlon 2800 XP. I've also got 1 gig of RAM, but a Radeon X1650 for a video card. It runs WoW perfectly fine at a nice resolution, but seeing those minimum system specs scared the CRAP out of me. Should I not even bother with this computer?

I guess the question I'm asking is "How much more powerful does a system have to be to run WAR than WoW?" Because I definitely do not have the money to upgrade ANYTHING right now.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Mo0

I am totally necrobumping this thread, but considering people have been playing the beta, I have a question to ask.

My computer is 4 years old. At least, the processor is, it's an Athlon 2800 XP. I've also got 1 gig of RAM, but a Radeon X1650 for a video card. It runs WoW perfectly fine at a nice resolution, but seeing those minimum system specs scared the CRAP out of me. Should I not even bother with this computer?

I guess the question I'm asking is "How much more powerful does a system have to be to run WAR than WoW?" Because I definitely do not have the money to upgrade ANYTHING right now.

I have about the same thing and I think you should run it fine. It's kind of a ram hog right now but Mythic is already working on it. Stability is their number 1 priority at the moment.

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By the way, for those interested in reading more about this, Ars Technica is running some play logs about Warhammer: Play Logs: Week one of Warhammer Online (PC)

I was speaking idiomatically.

I'm playing the Beta, once the download finishes, of course.. 9GB dl.

How ya doing, buddy?

This game is pretty fun. I plan on playing it for a while, at least until WOTLK comes out.

I really like how it's a little more casual-friendly than WoW (less heavy-raid focused, and more realm vs. realm focused).

Although it really seems like it could use some of the polish that WoW has.

FELIPE NO

What class are you?

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by Tokubetsu

I have about the same thing and I think you should run it fine. It's kind of a ram hog right now but Mythic is already working on it. Stability is their number 1 priority at the moment.

Sadly, I do have a problem with crowds on this computer, and that's after another gig of ram being added. And I'm not talkin' giant clusters of 50 people, I'm talking scenarios chugging very frustratingly.

I saw someone mention on SA forums that audio drivers make a difference... considering I'm still using the onboard audio from my 4-year-old motherboard, is that true?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I'm actually curious as well. My sound card (and sound drivers) recently shit the bed and Civ 4 will crash late in the game for no apparent reason. I'd love to know since WoW runs perfectly fine for me, without any exceptions. Kind of odd.

Anyway, I haven't been keeping up much with Warhammer since it's primarily PvP based gameplay doesn't hold much interest for me. But, with all I've read, I am changing my mind. If I have the dispensible (sp?) income at the time, I'd love to pick this up and give it a try to see how far this goes.

By the way, how bad is the polish lacking? Like Vangard bad?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Well, in regards to the PvP scaring you off, since you metioned WoW, let me tell you this: Being afraid of the PvP in WAR after playing WoW is like being afraid of BioShock's single player because you just played Quake 3. In WoW, PvP was an afterthought, and it wasn't even fully implemented for MONTHS. WAR is actually implementing a system from the start that encourages you to play PvP almost as much if not more than the PvE.

The lack of polish is actually surprisingly small, considering this is an open beta. Sure, I've run into some bugs here and there, but the overall look and feel of the game is quite good, and the Greenskin starting area is absolutely hilarious.

The only thing scaring me away from it is simply how much my computer fights to keep the game running; I sincerely hope they've got something turned on in this beta client that'll stop fucking up my game once the retail client comes out, because playing with a choppy framerate is NOT fun.

Let me tell you what is fun, though. Shaman. The bloody GENIUS "Target an enemy and a friend at the same time" means I can simultaneous poke some damage at the person a tank is fighting while healing the tank, and my healing spells will be boosted by my damaging spells and vice versa. THIS is what a Hybrid class is supposed to be, not WoW's stupid "Yeah sure you can do both of these if you have 2 separate sets of gear and are willing to respec for 50 million gold each time you want to switch."

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Mo0, unfortunately the beta client is just going to be patched and people can use that as their retail client (as long as they enter the retail codes on the website once they get them).

So if you're having performance issues, you're probably going to keep having them. Although I know performance is something that Mythic has said that they're constantly working on to improve. I've noticed that the performance has increased substantially from closed beta -> preview weekend -> preview weekend -> open beta. However, Mythic is not Blizzard, and they can't seem to make games as stable as Blizzard (can anybody?) so I don't know how much you want to get your hopes up. The servers are only going to be more crowded when the game goes live.

BTW for whoever asked, I'm playing a Bright. They're pretty awesome.

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This game has been absolutely amazing so far. It makes Age of Conan's (which had a better and more stable launch than WoW) devs look amateur. The only bug I've ran into so far is the ever so common "cannot attack this enemy" glitch. I only wish the majority of the Order in the server I was playing on weren't total morons and actually used a bit of thought when doing RvR.

I was speaking idiomatically.

well I've also been playing the beta as a chaos chosen one in Mad Dog Pass, generally most of the order players I've seen in RvR are witchhunter(at least in tier 1 since I am only rank 8) The game is a lot of fun lately, I've had issues with the game closing randomly, but for me that was promptly fixed with updated audio drivers, it's pretty strange for me that audio drivers affect gameplay so much, anyways. I agree so far the game is great, the dates for the preview weekend has been revealed so open beta ends in the 14th, I am still wondering if I will actually start to play this seriously, as great as it is I don't feel like forking out the cash just yet.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Debating whether or not to play this. I tried it for a bit in Phase 2 beta and it was okay. I've got the Collector's Edition (came in the mail today), but I'm toying with the thought of just selling it on Ebay. No clue right now~ :x

FELIPE NO

Friend who quit WoW (and all MMORPGs) decided he wanted to try this out, so I am to so he'll have someone to play with. Downloading the patch is bullcrap on my connection, but I hope to dig in sometime tonight. I don't know what I'll play as yet but it will be the Destruction side. I have a small question though:

Are classes pigeon-holed into certain roles? That's the problem I ran into starting Warcraft. I rolled a warrior thinking "Hot shit, I'm gonna tear stuff up and be a badass in plate." Then I found out the hard cold truth that I will "STFU and keep that monster's attention while everyone else beats on it."

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by dagget

Friend who quit WoW (and all MMORPGs) decided he wanted to try this out, so I am to so he'll have someone to play with. Downloading the patch is bullcrap on my connection, but I hope to dig in sometime tonight. I don't know what I'll play as yet but it will be the Destruction side. I have a small question though:

Are classes pigeon-holed into certain roles? That's the problem I ran into starting Warcraft. I rolled a warrior thinking "Hot shit, I'm gonna tear stuff up and be a badass in plate." Then I found out the hard cold truth that I will "STFU and keep that monster's attention while everyone else beats on it."

No, and yes. It depends on a few factors. First, the class you choose. Rune Priest is a example of a healer that you wanna pick to pretty much be the typical healer role. If you want to spice up that role, you can pick a Disciple of Khaine to dual wield, score more DPS, but be a tad bit less useful on the heal side. While you should still take priority over heals, the class is built to make you jump into combat to build up the very thing you need to use for the heals. There's also the Tanks that can take to the DPS role quite well if they choose a certain mastery. The game gives you lots of freedom. You're rarely ever FORCED to do just one thing.

How ya doing, buddy?