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Japan to ban internet users for file sharing
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Old Mar 16, 2008, 01:18 AM Local time: Mar 16, 2008, 12:18 AM #1 of 64
Japan to ban internet users for file sharing

Japanese ISPs To Ban File Sharers

All I have to say is God DAMN it. If US and other nations follow suit, I'll be quite upset. Do you think this will happen here? If so, what things do you think will be private enough to get away with? mIRC? FTP's? Or will we have to resort to something else? Or will we actually have to stop file sharing?

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Old Mar 16, 2008, 04:12 AM Local time: Mar 16, 2008, 03:12 AM #2 of 64
This is pretty damn crazy. Definitely raised my brows once I saw it.

If anyone had the balls to take this up in the states, it'd be Comcast. Christ, I hate those guys...

Anyhow, it seems pretty radical. Hope this doesn't affect how I get my animu (raws are often recordings off TV, remember).

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Old Mar 16, 2008, 07:57 AM Local time: Mar 16, 2008, 06:57 AM #3 of 64
Winny copiers to be cut off from Internet

At least they're not suing kids and grandmothers for a bazillion dollars

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Old Mar 16, 2008, 08:18 AM Local time: Mar 16, 2008, 09:18 AM #4 of 64
I heard about this before but I didn't think they'd actually go through with it. This may hurt the file sharing crowd over there for a little while, but I'm sure they'll find someway around it. They always do.

As far as getting raws for anime or manga (or J-pop or what have you) is concerned, there's always IRC. No one ever goes after that.

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Old Mar 16, 2008, 09:43 AM Local time: Mar 16, 2008, 10:43 PM #5 of 64
The action still has to be initiated by the copyright holders or some enforcement agency. The ISP then sends a warning to the offender, and if successive warnings are not complied with, they cut the internet service.

And this differs from current procedure.... how?

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Old Mar 16, 2008, 10:28 AM #6 of 64
And this differs from current procedure.... how?
Because it's Japan, the land of constant happiness, kawaii and schoolgirls.

Doing something so mean and cruel is so very un-Japan-like! The Japanese are supposed to be such nice people.

It's something you'd only expect to see in America (but we're too free to do that!)

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Old Mar 16, 2008, 11:48 AM Local time: Mar 16, 2008, 06:48 PM 1 #7 of 64
Because it's Japan, the land of constant happiness, kawaii and schoolgirls.
Kawaii is not a noun.

Hopefully all this won't affect the manga/anime sharing scene in the future.

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Old Mar 16, 2008, 12:03 PM Local time: Mar 16, 2008, 06:03 PM #8 of 64
If the rest of the file sharing that goes on in the internet is anything to go by, probably not.

Course, the whole being able to see a show before buying it thing is sorta the mutant blood that the anime inudustry doesn't want to admit to having but that's a topic for another thread, another time and quite possibly another board.

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Old Mar 16, 2008, 01:06 PM Local time: Mar 16, 2008, 08:06 PM #9 of 64
Originally Posted by Source
The process will formally commence in April and will primarily target users of Winny, the most popular file sharing network in Japan.
In my opinion that's so typical Japanese. Concentrating on their own networks (it's about the same with Mixi; a community network similar to MySpace but with, maybe, 98% Japanese users only). Time to look for something more international, guys.

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Old Mar 16, 2008, 01:15 PM #10 of 64
Targeting Winny has already disrupted the distribution of high-quality Gundam 00...

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Old Mar 16, 2008, 01:32 PM #11 of 64
Kawaii is not a noun.
THE POINT











































YOUR HEAD

I thought it was painfully obvious to everyone here that I know and am studying Japanese.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Mar 16, 2008, 01:34 PM #12 of 64
If you're interested on how the ISP respond to the users currently, I actually got an email not long ago for downloading off BT. Well, not me but someone using the web in my household.

Long email:

Spoiler:
Dear XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Rogers Cable (Rogers) has received a notice stating that activities associated with your IP address are infringing copyright in material(s) owned or exclusively licensed by others.

The full notice is appended to this e-mail below.

Under section 4(d) of the Rogers Yahoo! Hi-Speed Internet End User Agreement (EUA) and Acceptable Use Policy (AUP), you are prohibited from using the Rogers Yahoo! Hi-Speed Internet service to engage in illegal activities, including activities that infringe copyright. Copies of our EUA and AUP are available at:

http://na.edit.client.yahoo.com/roge...terms&.intl=ca

Where there has been a violation of our EUA and/or AUP, including the unauthorized distribution of copyright-protected material, Rogers has the right to take appropriate action against you.

If you have any questions about the attached copyright notice, please contact the sender of the notice using the contact information provided in the notice. Please do not reply to this e-mail.

We trust you will comply with our policies and all applicable laws in using the Rogers Yahoo! Hi-Speed Internet service.

Rogers EUA Management Team
Sincerely,

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http://na.edit.client.yahoo.com/roge...ic?.form=terms
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Re: Unauthorized Use of NBC Universal Properties
Notice ID: XXXXXX

Dear Sir or Madam:

Please be advised that NBC Universal and/or its subsidiary and affiliated companies (collectively, NBC Universal) are the owners of exclusive rights protected under copyright law and other intellectual property rights in many motion pictures and television programs, including the title(s) listed below (the NBC Universal Properties). NBC Universal diligently enforces its rights in its motion pictures.

It has come to our attention that Rogers Cable Communications Inc. is the service provider for the IP address listed below, from which unauthorized copying and distribution (downloading, uploading, file serving, file "swapping" or other similar activities) of the NBC Universal Property or Properties listed below, or portion(s) thereof, is taking place. We believe that the Internet access of the user engaging in this infringement is provided by Rogers Cable Communications Inc. or a downstream service provider who purchases this connectivity from Rogers Cable Communications Inc..

This unauthorized copying and distribution constitutes copyright infringement under Section 106 of the U.S. Copyright Act. Depending upon the type of service Rogers Cable Communications Inc. is providing to this IP address, it may have legal and/or equitable liability if it does not expeditiously remove or disable access to the motion picture(s) listed below, or if it fails to implement a policy that provides for termination of subscribers who are repeat infringers (see 17 U.S.C. 512).

Despite the above, NBC Universal believes that the entire Internet community benefits when these matters are resolved cooperatively. We urge you to take immediate action to stop this infringing activity and inform us of the results of your actions. We appreciate your efforts toward this common goal.

The undersigned has a good faith belief that use of the NBC Universal Property or Properties in the manner described herein is not authorized by NBC Universal, its agent or the law. The information contained in this notification is accurate. Under penalty of perjury, the undersigned is authorized to act on behalf of NBC Universal with respect to this matter.

Please be advised that this letter is not intended to be a complete statement of the facts or law as they may pertain to this matter or of NBC Universal's positions, rights or remedies, legal or equitable, all of which are specifically reserved.

Please send us a prompt response indicating the actions you have taken to resolve this matter, making sure to reference the Notice ID number above in your response.

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email or web links above, you can copy and paste the entire link in to
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Very truly yours,


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Title: Apprentice, The (TV)
Infringement Source: BitTorrent
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 31 Jan 2008 08:17:49 GMT
Recent Infringement Timestamp: 31 Jan 2008 08:17:49 GMT
Infringing Filename: The.Apprentice.S07E03.PDTV.XviD-DIMENSION.avi
Infringing File size: 366548992
Infringers IP Address: 99.226.XXXXXX
Infringers DNS Name: XXXXXXX
Infringing URL: http://eztv.sladinki007.net:60500/announce

Title: Apprentice, The (TV)
Infringement Source: BitTorrent
Initial Infringement Timestamp: 31 Jan 2008 08:21:31 GMT
Recent Infringement Timestamp: 31 Jan 2008 08:21:31 GMT
Infringing Filename: The.Apprentice.S07E02.PDTV.XviD-DIMENSION.avi
Infringing File size: 366430208
Infringers IP Address: XXXXXXX
Infringing URL: http://eztv.ukrabel.com:60500/announce


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Old Mar 16, 2008, 01:46 PM Local time: Mar 16, 2008, 08:46 PM #13 of 64
I thought it was painfully obvious to everyone here that I know and am studying Japanese.
Uh, how about, no? I'm not lurking around here 24/7.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 16, 2008, 02:02 PM #14 of 64
Uh, how about, no? I'm not lurking around here 24/7.
Well, it's a good thing I don't even need to lurk for 10 minutes to know that you can't understand sarcasm and humor!

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Mar 16, 2008, 03:35 PM Local time: Mar 16, 2008, 10:35 PM #15 of 64
Well, it's a good thing I don't even need to lurk for 10 minutes to know that you can't understand sarcasm and humor!
Since when was sarcasm easily detected on the net? Since NEVER

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Old Mar 16, 2008, 04:33 PM #16 of 64
I never really expected Japan to be so retarded. And that the recording industry was behind it only enforces further that I will not buy a single CD ever until they change their ways. I'm already on three years since I bought one and proud of it.

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Old Mar 16, 2008, 04:57 PM Local time: Mar 16, 2008, 06:27 PM #17 of 64
I can't even remember the last time I bought a CD. I love downloading because you can pick the song you like from a album of shitty songs, rather the buy the whole shabang.

I am socked with Japan's move, I am happy with the copyright laws we currently have in Canada, but as long as the U.S copyright laws continue to ban file sharing, Canada may play follow the leader (As long a Steve Harper is in control it may)

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Old Mar 16, 2008, 05:28 PM Local time: Mar 16, 2008, 11:28 PM #18 of 64
The last cd I bought was a OST of DQ8 and that was two years back at least.

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Old Mar 16, 2008, 09:29 PM Local time: Mar 16, 2008, 06:29 PM #19 of 64
Originally Posted by Source
The process will formally commence in April and will primarily target users of Winny, the most popular file sharing network in Japan.
Oh dear.

Well this is sad news to hear, but I honestly don't think its going to strangle the flow of manga/animation. There are so many ways of getting that kind of information out. Still, sad to hear such restrictions are going up in more places now.

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Old Mar 17, 2008, 12:54 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2008, 12:54 AM #20 of 64
In my opinion that's so typical Japanese. Concentrating on their own networks (it's about the same with Mixi; a community network similar to MySpace but with, maybe, 98% Japanese users only). Time to look for something more international, guys.
agreed, japanese for some reason is rather xenophobic when it comes to internet service.

I rarely see japanese use popular internet services such as rapidshare, megaupload, or mediafire. Or maybe I'm just don't know where to find forum like this in japanese sites (the most popular is 2ch, but most of the time they talk about winny)

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Old Mar 17, 2008, 01:13 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2008, 01:13 PM #21 of 64
Maybe it's because the Japanese don't like associating with foreign mouthbreathers?

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 17, 2008, 02:40 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2008, 12:40 PM #22 of 64
agreed, japanese for some reason is rather xenophobic when it comes to internet service.
You're close, but I believe what you want to say is "The Japanese are xenophobic... period."

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Old Mar 17, 2008, 03:48 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2008, 01:48 PM #23 of 64
I do have to ponder why they continuously insist on isolating themselves so much.

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Old Mar 17, 2008, 04:51 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2008, 11:51 PM #24 of 64
Hasn't anyone thought that the reason why japanese don't use file sharing programs that are popular in the US because of the language barrier? I mean, the people who look for anime or japanese music using programs in Japanese can basically be counted on one hand, so would you expect anything else from the Japanese who are, even though they like to claim the opposite, hardly be called fluent when it comes to english. I can read anything I want in English, but I still to download my manga in french if possible, it's basically a matter of preference. I laugh at Americans who claim that they are more international just because they visit websites from other countries in English. You don't see an American making an effort to understand a french or a german site, so why would you expect a Japanese to use english networks when they can get everything they want from sites in their own language?

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Old Mar 17, 2008, 05:52 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2008, 05:52 PM #25 of 64
Because English is the International Language?

Because using international filesharing networks vastly expands the pool of resources that are available to them?

The vast majority of people in the world are ok with using English as the basic language for international communication.

Though I'm also willing to bet, that since nerds are already so despised and marginalized in Japan, they're already used to insulating themselves from the larger community.

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