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HDTV Problem. HELP!!!
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Old Dec 11, 2007, 11:15 PM #1 of 19
HDTV Problem. HELP!!!

I was playing KoF XI on my Sharp Aquos HDTV and after quitting the game I noticed I had a brand new vertical 1/4 inch red line spanning from top to bottom only a few inched left of the center of the screen.

Is there some sort of fix I can do to fix this. Or does it require me taking it back to the store and getting a new one?

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Old Dec 11, 2007, 11:23 PM #2 of 19
Bad panel.

Exchange immediately.

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Old Dec 11, 2007, 11:35 PM #3 of 19
Well I went and played the PS2 emulation thing again and that made it go away. So I don't know what the fuck that is. The red line comes up right on the left edge where the 4:3 image ends. It always flickered that red line on my CRT HDTV, but I never had it stuck.

Now I can't tell if it's just caused by the resolution changing of the PS2 hardware or if it's the TV.

Argh.... lame...

Either way, I suppose I can't take it back now seeing how the line isn't there. However if it ever comes up again I'm going to take it back. I may even try the PS2 emulation again just to make it happen.

UPDATE:
It came back while playing GH3 on my 360 so it's going back ASAP. Crappy part is, ASAP won't be till Friday

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Old Dec 12, 2007, 01:31 AM Local time: Dec 12, 2007, 12:31 AM #4 of 19
Yeah, I was gonna say, just try as many different source materials and different inputs/cables as you can. But yeah, that's reason enough right there to send it in.

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Old Dec 12, 2007, 10:29 AM Local time: Dec 12, 2007, 09:29 AM #5 of 19
I don't know but It sounds like source problems.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Dec 12, 2007, 05:19 PM #6 of 19
Today I researched the issue on the net and then called Sharp Canadian tech support (American support was useless) and it is a documented issue that can happen to any make or model of LCDs. It used to be like a 30% rate back when LCDs were first introduced, but since quality control has been established for LCDs the percentage is much lower.

Like I say, you can test anything a million times. Give it to me and it'll break. *sigh*

So yeah, taking it back and getting a new one tonight. I called ahead, and they have more in stock.

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Old Dec 12, 2007, 05:30 PM Local time: Dec 12, 2007, 04:30 PM #7 of 19
Hmm... do you have a link to the article, I would like to research a little bit more in this issue.

Personal Curiosity...

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Old Dec 12, 2007, 05:41 PM #8 of 19
Yeah, no problem. Keep an eye out for an update to this post with a link.

Like I said, it can happen to any make or model hence why I may have some laptop LCD reports of this matter. But it IS the same thing.

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Toshiba P35 605 screen with vertical red line - NotebookForums.com

Thin vertical red line - FixYa
"This maybe the symptom of a bad Panel. One Vertically This line is 99% bad panel. Call your warranty provider or SONY tech support if purchased under 2 years."

red vertical line - Forum

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Vertical banding and DLP rainbows

HDBlog.net » Blog Archive » LCD Vertical Banding or DLP Rainbows?

Liquid crystal display - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Horizontal and/or vertical banding is a problem in some LCD screens. This flaw occurs as part of the manufacturing process, and cannot be repaired (short of total replacement of the screen). Banding can vary substantially even among LCD screens of the same make and model. The degree is determined by the manufacture's quality control procedures. "

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This isn't mine, but it is the same problem to give you an idea of what VB is. The lones run below light colours and above dark ones. Creating this laser with dust going through it effect when playing a moving picture.



I'll try and post one of my set later. One that I took before I sent it back.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

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Old Dec 12, 2007, 06:00 PM #9 of 19
The vertical red line and banding are not the same thing.

I don't know why they exist, but the red line is basically a perfect vertical line of dead pixels, while banding is the inability of a panel to present smooth color transitions and gradients.

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Old Dec 12, 2007, 06:12 PM Local time: Dec 12, 2007, 05:12 PM #10 of 19
Yeah, no problem. Keep an eye out for an update to this post with a link.

Like I said, it can happen to any make or model hence why I may have some laptop LCD reports of this matter. But it IS the same thing.

Forums Posts
Toshiba P35 605 screen with vertical red line - NotebookForums.com

Thin vertical red line - FixYa
"This maybe the symptom of a bad Panel. One Vertically This line is 99% bad panel. Call your warranty provider or SONY tech support if purchased under 2 years."

red vertical line - Forum

Formal Documentation
Vertical banding and DLP rainbows

HDBlog.net » Blog Archive » LCD Vertical Banding or DLP Rainbows?

Liquid crystal display - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"Horizontal and/or vertical banding is a problem in some LCD screens. This flaw occurs as part of the manufacturing process, and cannot be repaired (short of total replacement of the screen). Banding can vary substantially even among LCD screens of the same make and model. The degree is determined by the manufacture's quality control procedures. "

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This isn't mine, but it is the same problem to give you an idea of what VB is. The lones run below light colours and above dark ones. Creating this laser with dust going through it effect when playing a moving picture.



I'll try and post one of my set later. One that I took before I sent it back.
Oh, thank you good Sir... and wow, I really misread your first post, that stuff is nasty!

Oh well, Good luck with your new screen... and well, I feel sorry that It happened to you. (Nothing worse than a faulty new toy)

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Old Dec 13, 2007, 10:44 AM #11 of 19
Thanks Tafer ^^

I think the new one looks sharper then the last. But I wouldn't be surprised if I wasn't just seeing what I wanted to see.

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To tell the truth mine wasn't exactly like that picture. It wasn't quite a solid line. I don't know if I can explaing this but my red bar consisted of 2 red lines really. One line was every even pixel and then there was a space of a pixel or two to the next red line that was every odd pixel.

Now I don't know if there specifics there are right exactly, but that's an idea of what it at least looked like. I can't say that it IS vertical banding exactly. But the properties seemed similar with the colour layering and such so I did just assume considering how close the two seemed. That's really all I could do.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Dec 13, 2007, 06:16 PM Local time: Dec 13, 2007, 04:16 PM #12 of 19
If I were you I'd try to take it back to the store. My dad had a small LCD TV that was fine for a good while, then it randomly picked up this massive pink line going down the entire screen. It might not seem like a big deal that it happened for a short while right now, but two years down the line when your warranty's expired and it's happening all the time you'll be kicking yourself for not spending half an afternoon to get it done.

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Old Dec 13, 2007, 06:39 PM #13 of 19
I actually have already taken it back to the store last night and got the new one.

Thanks for the advice though. Nice to know there's people out there willing to help a guy out. ^^

How ya doing, buddy?
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Old Dec 13, 2007, 06:50 PM Local time: Dec 13, 2007, 04:50 PM #14 of 19
Just out of curiosity, did they give you any sort of hassle when you tried to return it (and what store did you wind up buying from)? It's always good to hear stories about various stores for next time I'm in the market for buying one of these types of things (as in, five years from now ).

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Dec 13, 2007, 07:03 PM #15 of 19
Yeah, no problem man.

Well first off I got mine from Sears here in Ontario, Canada. First shadey thing I'd like to mention is that they have NO satisfaction guarentee. Notta. And if you want to return ANY electronic item whether a $40 discman or a $3,000 TV Sears gets to keep 20% of the purchase price. Doesn't matter if you're refunding or exchanging. Only exception is if it's a faulty product of course.

That said they do have a 1 year in store replacement service for most electronics which is always handy.

So my TV had a red line and I phoned Sears. I just got a random female worker in the Electronics department and she said that they needed me to call Sharp and report the problem that way the serial has a record so that Sears can send it back to Sharp, and while I did that she was gonna go see if they had more of my TV in stock. I phoned Sharp without too much hassel and afterwards the women phoned back saying that they did have more in stock and that she was going to hold one for me.

After that I took the broken one to the store's dock, unloaded the old one, showed my receipt, and loaded the new one.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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Old Dec 13, 2007, 09:53 PM #16 of 19
It's all about Best Buy.

I had a Sony LCD last year, which I returned 5 times in a row.

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Old Dec 13, 2007, 10:12 PM #17 of 19
LMAO, that's awesome.

Yeah I tend to abuse their generosity myself too. But you can't say that their customers don't leave satisfied... eventually. And I know that THAT keeps me going back to Best Buy.

Only reason why I bought my LCD from sears was because it was the only card that had enough room on it to cover it at the time... and I can make monthly payments.

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Old Dec 13, 2007, 11:48 PM Local time: Dec 13, 2007, 10:48 PM #18 of 19
It's all about Best Buy.

I had a Sony LCD last year, which I returned 5 times in a row.
Just for curiosity... massive clouding problem or just plain defective panel?

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Old Dec 14, 2007, 08:41 PM #19 of 19
Let's just say that OCD and dead pixels do not mix.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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