[General Discussion] What is your dream for the Wii, 360, PS3, DS, and PSP?

Wii, 360, PS3, DS and PSP..... Wikipedia calls these five systems part of the "Seventh Generation" era of gaming.

All of these systems are still very much alive and have more to come out with.
Before their deaths, what are all the types of games, or specific games, that you want to see on each console? Even if you don't have some of the systems, you could perhaps dream about what you'd want for them (maybe so your rate of buying the system will go up, given that the dream is fulfilled).

For the Wii, I am hoping for some online action as in Mario Kart (which will come true), as well as online RPGs. Also, much bigger single-player RPG support would be great. The Gamecube didn't have nearly the RPGs as the PS2 did. Everything else that the Wii is doing is excellent. No further dream needed.

For the 360, I am hoping Blue Dragon will be good, but do not have dreams about its future.

For the PS3, the only one we don't own, I am hoping for heavy RPG support and online RPGs that are massive (but not necessarily MMORPGs). That is all I care about for Sony consoles because I go to Nintendo for all other sorts of fun.

For the DS I would like Shining Soul 3 -- an action/RPG series that you could connect to friends and play at the same time with. It would be perfect for the Wi Fi. Part 3 does not exist, nor do I believe it will, but it is my dream. Aside from needing yet more RPG support, the DS is very fulfilling.

For the PSP I am hoping for FF Tactics: War of the Lions to be good.

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Wii - Dracula's Curse Wii
360 - Castlevania Ultimate Chronicles for XBLA
PS3 - Castlevania Online
DS - Demon Castle Wars
PSP - A brand-new, godly 2.5D Castlevania

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I dream pretty much for some kind of cross platform online game, so we can play out our console wars on the virtual battlefield.\

I also dream taht Borg's dreams for RPGs on Wii don't come true.

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Originally Posted by Borg1982

i liek rpgs

A great diversity there.

Basically I want quality online renditions of F-Zero and Star Fox for Wii. Also PilotWings, PilotWings would be nice.

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If Star Fox doesn't offer Co-op multi in the next game fuck that seres.

I was speaking idiomatically.

DS: I would like the DS to basically go drop itself in a pond. Think of it like when knights would fall on their sword if they failed their King. Do the honorable thing Nintendo.

Wii: I would like to see Nintendo get a little more serious with their console. I'm not at all impressed with their useless gadgetry which may end up supporting 3 crappy demo games at best. I would also like to see some games with graphics appropriate to a next generation console. I'll fire up my Commodore 64 if I want blocks for polygons. While I'm at it, can I get a grown up Zelda who can actually engage in conversation with spoken dialogue in the next game. I've grown tired of his stupid grunt noises.

PSP: This is a proper handheld which deserves more attention and high quality games by the developers. I'm not paying $49.99 for your crappy scrapped project budget games you lazy bastards. Show some effort. It's your job isn't it? Subtle hint to Konami: MGS3 DGN or GTFO. Seconding the motion for a new Castlevania. As for the "redesign" I hope they choke on a peanut if PSP goes the way of the Gamboy. PSPLite, PSPColor, PSP DUAL SHOCK, PSP SIXAXIS, PSPAdvanced, PSPLiteColorAdvanced DUALSHOCK ALARM CLOCK RADIO TELEVISION TUNER. Cut it out.

PS3: Can I see some games now please. Everytime I walk into EBGames I see boxes lined up with "Coming Soon" stickers. So is Jesus from what I'm told. Warhawk Online, why? What did we ever do to you? S'up Gran Turismo? SquareEnix + Unreal 3 engine + Parasite Eve remake = sweet love by the fire.

360: Err, keep doing what you're doing I guess? Major props to Call of Duty 4.

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Just because I'm mentioning RPGs a lot here doesn't mean I like them only. It means that the five systems are succeeding in giving me what I want for other genres.

FELIPE NO

What would the worth of RPGs on Wii be though? RPGs are stale, old games, about stats and navigating menus. Wii is for new action, motion controlled games.

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Originally Posted by RABicle

What would the worth of RPGs on Wii be though? RPGs are stale, old games, about stats and navigating menus. Wii is for new action, motion controlled games.

Well believe it or not, there is this thing called opinion that plays a huge role in life. This may come off as a shock to you, but other people (many others, I'm sure) disagree with you. (OH NO!!!)

So while you may not like the RPG genre, many others do. Releasing RPGs on the Wii would satisfy this large pool of gamers on Nintendo's newest console. Not to mention that the Wii's capabilities could expand the RPG genre using the motion sensing technology in ways you probably couldn't think of with your poor concieved notion of stale menus and the such.

I can understand people wanting to express their opinion though, so don't get the wrong idea. But when people come rollin' in with their own "badass" ideals without even taking into account that there MAY be others out there that enjoy the very thing these people hate, it really makes them look inconsiderate and decreases the value of their argument. Well, at least I think you're trying to argue.

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Xbox360: I think it's just me but 360 seems to lack variety in the kinds of games you can get. Enough war/shoot/race/wannabeasoldier kind of games. How about more of the Viva Pinata stuff? Epic RPGs (there's like, only one or two).

PS3: Seeing as how the 360 has established itself as the main "conventional gamer" console, I think PS3 should strive to be more evolutionary than that. PS2 gave us gaming heaven, so with what seems like a powerful system, I would like to see developers create more elaborate and unique gaming experiences, making it go beyond just "PS2 with better graphics". I don't how that'll work, but here's my two cents.

Wii: Wiimote control more ironed out. At the moment, some games require you to stay within the parameters of what the controller picks up. But here's hoping that there can be variations/leeways to the actions you do for future games, which lead to more fluent gameplay. If successful, Nintendo can then stick their mantra up everyone's asses. Oh, and revivals of Kid Icarus, Mach Rider and some new IPs please!

DS: Where's my F-Zero DS??? Otherwise, DS has pretty much captured my heart this generation

PSP: The problem is that while PSP is a great system, it's being trounced by DS. How about using that power to create awesome, pick-up-and-play games rather than ports of PS2 games, or games with long ASS cutscenes and gameplay. Maybe stop worrying about the graphics and using that processing power for something that you'll be able to turn on for short periods and ejoy? The only thing I've seen PSP owners do (on a daily train ride to uni) is use the MP3 function. Pretty sad.

Seventh generation, eh? That's a lot of consoles.

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Originally Posted by JackyBoy

DS: I would like the DS to basically go drop itself in a pond. Think of it like when knights would fall on their sword if they failed their King. Do the honorable thing Nintendo.

Kill the thing because it's trouncing the shit out of everything else, even its own home console brother. That makes perfect sense. get on that nintendo

DS: Keep doing what you're doing-- for the most part. I'd like a bit more extensive use of the Wi-Fi connection, instead of just a glorified waiting room. I have no complaints about the diversity of the genres as of now.

Wii: Again, Wi-Fi connection, but it's still in its first year. Every console gets a mulligan its first year. It needs to figure out how RPGs will be done (if the console keeps selling, it's inevitable). I'd personally like to see some more 2D RPGs, and just use the sideways Wiimote. And since this is about my dreams, hey.

360: It's doing pretty solid, not much stands out to really wish for. I'd like to see consumer confidence return, since everything up until the three-year, retroactive warranty thing they did was a hardware fiasco. I can't find any reason to use credits online. So, I'd like to see more good things to buy, not just these stupid fucking skins.

PS3: I'd like for online to be decent. Again, first year, so it's okay. About the only game out now that I want is Oblivion, so some immediate satisfaction is my dream. Not just the promise of goodness in the future.

PSP: Library. Ports must stop, original games must be good in a much higher ratio. Another price drop to put it at an equal price to the DS Lite.

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I only have one general dream that most likely will not be realized this generation. Considering that I mainly buy jRPGs I would like most of them to be available on a single platform much like how most RPGs in the past were available only on the SNES, PS1 or PS2. At this point I don't care which platform this happens to be as long as at least one of them has them.

This mostly has to do with the success of the genre. By focusing the fanbase to a single platform RPGs, especially the more niche types from NIS, Atlus, etc. will see a higher overall success. Having a focused fanbase also increases the likelyhood of jRPGs actually being localized outside of Japan.

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Yeah, fuck that whole diversity thing! Xbawks should only have SHOOTAN GAEMS, Wii only needs PAR-TAY titles, and dat PSTriple should be for dem JAY ARR PEE JEEZ only!

I was speaking idiomatically.

If you only want to buy one console, just say "I only want to buy one console". Don't give us this contrived "for the success of the genre" bullshit.

What I wanted out of this console generation has already been realized, to a certain degree, which was a sophisticated online multiplayer experience. For the most part, 360 provides that. I would like to see a few more RPGs, maybe even ones that move forward, rather than sticking to tried and true {and stale} formulas. I would like to have some enjoyable, well put together multiplayer in a wide open environment {GTA IV maybe?}. And I would like, keep in mind that this is purely wishful thinking, for games to provide subliminal messages within the game that aims to, and succeeds at, reducing the amount of idiocy that the average gamer spouts forth from his mouth and/or fingers.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by russ

If you only want to buy one console, just say "I only want to buy one console". Don't give us this contrived "for the success of the genre" bullshit.

What I wanted out of this console generation has already been realized, to a certain degree, which was a sophisticated online multiplayer experience. For the most part, 360 provides that. I would like to see a few more RPGs, maybe even ones that move forward, rather than sticking to tried and true {and stale} formulas. I would like to have some enjoyable, well put together multiplayer in a wide open environment {GTA IV maybe?}. And I would like, keep in mind that this is purely wishful thinking, for games to provide subliminal messages within the game that aims to, and succeeds at, reducing the amount of idiocy that the average gamer spouts forth from his mouth and/or fingers.

Clearly the workings of the industry escapes you.

I also already own a PS3 and Xbox 360 so the idea that I only want to buy one console is out the window.

FELIPE NO

For the Wii, I want it to have games. Right now, it doesn't have very many at all (although there's a decent amount of Japan-only titles, which is probably why it's doing so well over there). Games like Giftpia should be released on the Wii and Gamecube controller support should be available for almost every game, unless of course they're specifically designed for the remote.

I also want a universal modchip for the Wii, so importing won't be an issue to deal with. Swap discs are a pain in the fucking ass.

I want the PSP to stop eating itself and kick the bucket already.

For the 360, I want the consoles to rid themselves of such an abysmal failure rate. All 360 consoles I've had I've obtained without giving Microsoft any money, and I couldn't have it any other way.

For the 360's library, they need some games which are unique. The hardware is there, but nothing is really saying "hey, well, this is different." First person shooters, racing games, sports games, and war-centric games are not unique nor worth purchasing.

I just want the DS to continue merrily with succeeding, while good games are being seen frequently.

For the PS3 I don't know yet. It hasn't even been out six months so I can't judge. It's also the only seventh generation console that I don't own, mainly because owning one right now is pointless.

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Originally Posted by sum idiot

PSP: This is a proper handheld which deserves more attention and high quality games by the developers. I'm not paying $49.99 for your crappy scrapped project budget games you lazy bastards. Show some effort. It's your job isn't it? Subtle hint to Konami: MGS3 DGN or GTFO. Seconding the motion for a new Castlevania. As for the "redesign" I hope they choke on a peanut if PSP goes the way of the Gamboy. PSPLite, PSPColor, PSP DUAL SHOCK, PSP SIXAXIS, PSPAdvanced, PSPLiteColorAdvanced DUALSHOCK ALARM CLOCK RADIO TELEVISION TUNER. Cut it out.

Don't worry I don't see the PSP going the way of the Gameboy anytime soon and by that I mean becoming sucessful.

I'm also hoping for a Pikmin 3 for Wii, that would be ace.

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Originally Posted by Kronic-X

Don't worry I don't see the PSP going the way of the Gameboy anytime soon and by that I mean becoming sucessful.

I'm also hoping for a Pikmin 3 for Wii, that would be ace.

PSP sales were up over 50% last quarter with sales continuing to increase and about 30 million have been sold. While not near the success of the DS (I don't think anything can be comparable at this point) I'd hardly consider the PSP anywhere near failure. It's actually vastly improving over time along with its game library.

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He also didn't argue that it was a failure. Being successful in a Game Boy sort of way would be a lofty dream for any company, even the for the successors that Nintendo pops out.

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Originally Posted by Cetra

Clearly the workings of the industry escapes you.

So which game developer or publisher do you work for?

I would like to see some quantitative evidence that suggests that concentrating an entire genre's releases on a single console has a more significant effect on a genre's success than anything else. What you will find is that in past console generations, you're going to have a console that is a clear sales winner, and that games made their way to that console because the console was successful. That is why in the past, RPGs were concentrated on the SNES, PSX, and PS2. These were the consoles that had the largest user base, which meant it made more sense for developers/publishers to put their RPGs on these consoles, especially because the genre itself had been more or less niche when compared to action and shooter type games.

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Originally Posted by Borg1982

Well believe it or not, there is this thing called opinion that plays a huge role in life. This may come off as a shock to you, but other people (many others, I'm sure) disagree with you. (OH NO!!!)

Yeah mate you have a different opinion to me, doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.

Originally Posted by Borg1982

So while you may not like the RPG genre, many others do. Releasing RPGs on the Wii would satisfy this large pool of gamers on Nintendo's newest console. Not to mention that the Wii's capabilities could expand the RPG genre using the motion sensing technology in ways you probably couldn't think of with your poor concieved notion of stale menus and the such.

Well maybe with your broad mind of abstract thought you could tell us how motion controls will open up a world of possibilities for the RPG genre you so adore. Face it, the moment an RPG adds motion controls and therefore gameplay, it'll no longer be an RPG and become a worthwhile game. Like that Dragon Quest Swords game, it's not an RPG.

More than any other console, Wii has the opportunity to utterly destroy the Xbox "shooting console" 360 because damn the Wii has so much potential to deliver a shooter that makes Halo 3 look like the primitive, decade old dual analoge game it is. I can't remember the specifics but I recall some PC developer having an early build of a Wii shooter that threw away that light gun pointer rubbish and instead controlled the sight and gun movements independantly with the gyroscopes. The idea was that you could be shooting at things off screen which is just too awesome to think about.

I was speaking idiomatically.

First and foremost, I'm the OP that first quoted your post, Rab. Borg was browsing and I saw the post and decided to make a quick reply without switching names.

Originally Posted by RABicle

Yeah mate you have a different opinion to me, doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.

That's quite the contradiction right thar if I say so myself! So because I think that the RPG series isn't dull, and I enjoy it, means I'm completely wrong and the entire genre is dull because you said so? I don't understand what you're getting at here.

Opinion != fact.

Also wasn't DQ:Swords an RPG with items and exp and the works? 'Course its more action based being as it's controlled with the wii-mote. But that still makes it an action RPG.

Then again, there are many different definitions of a RPG. Most purists will say a RPG is only something like D&D, or the computer renditions such as Neverwinter Nights. Those are known as Computer RPGs. Then you have console RPGs, which are watered down alot and follow a basic plot line that you really can't stray from such as Final Fantasy. One of my friends will label most RPGs as adventure games, stating that the only RPGs are the ones where you have control over the plot and such. I disagree with him, but again thats his opinion vs. mine.

So if you're saying DQ:Swords isn't a RPG, you're probably right in the sense that it isn't a traditional RPG. But nonetheless, it is a RPG with experience points, items, skills, and the menus.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I can't really believe this argument is even taking place.

There are people who hope some games *don't* come out...why would you ever hope something like that? You *want* people to be deprived of something they like because you don't like it? That's got to be the sincerest form of idiocy I've come across recently.

Oh, and I'm sure we've all heard the "if the same types of games just keep coming out, then there will be no room for innovation, blah blah blah" argument. That's bullcrap. There isn't some kind of limit on things that can be created. If companies keep making the same types of games, it's because people keep buying them. You have to remember that not everyone plays every single game. So what if there are 50+ Japanese RPGs published every year? If I only play one of them, then the genre isn't stale to me.

And arguing that game types should be done away with because they're old? I suppose you think the world should give up story telling and music, too, huh?

FELIPE NO

My dream for all these consoles is that people will stop being stupid dickheads about them by dragging them into pointless primary school style fights on internet forums but tsk tsk!

Wii - NEW PILOTWINGS
360 - NEW MIDTOWN MADNESS
PS3 - NEW FLIPNIC
DS - NEW MOLE MANIA
PSP - NEW LEMMINGS

Those are my wet dreams. :]

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Wii: I want to see some GOOD online functionality before the eighth generation magically appears. Voice chat, marketplace, all of that. Also a new Chrono game.

360: Stop breaking. They're ever-so-slightly more affordable now, and I want to know that picking one up won't result in tears later on.

PS3: A redesign and a price drop. A new controller would be nice, too, considering how hard the Dualshock/Sixaxis sucks.

DS: FFVI.

PSP: Games which are interesting and don't blow chunks. Seriously, Pursuit Force? Rengoku? I'm all for original IPs, but jesus fucking christ devs need to put more effort in. They're getting handheld play totally wrong.

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