Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix

I didn't see a thread about this movie so I thought I would make one. This was posted at MuggleNet.com

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Those of you who checked our site the other day will remember we reported there will be no Quidditch in Order of the Phoenix. The information (just for MuggleNet visitors) had come from an interview with Rupert, where he states there won't be any broom time "at all" in OOTP. He also says he was "looking forward" to filming the Weasley is our King storyline, which "may be" in the sixth film.

So, that's it then, no broom time at all in the 5th film. That means no Weasley is our King, no banning Harry, Fred, and George from the Quidditch team, and no Fred and George escaping on brooms and leaving Hogwarts.

That really sucks. I really wanted to see the whole part about Harry not being able to play Quidditch and the new team.

Anyway now begin thread.

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I guess it's too much to hope for a John Williams return.

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Personally, I had my fill of Quidditch with the other films. Then again, I'm not much of a sports guy, even if it involves flying around on brooms.

I'm waiting for a trailer. I loved all of the other films (the last two especially), so I'm highly anticipating this one.

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Well there isn't much Quidditch in the book anyways, or it was never focused on as in other books. I'm sure Harry getting banned from Quidditch will be shown somehow... it was a highlight in the book. This book was one of my favorites... I can't wait to see it. I just hoped it isn't ruined like Goblet of Fire.

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Whatever, Goblet of Fire was a great movie and by far the beast Harry Potter movie. It managed to maintain a high level of quality while still maintaining the essence of the 4th book (which is my only complaint about the 3rd movie). Sure the movie was choppy in the begining and they left out a few unimportant story lines but it hardly detracts from the entire movie.

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Originally Posted by VitaPup

Whatever, Goblet of Fire was a great movie and by far the beast Harry Potter movie. It managed to maintain a high level of quality while still maintaining the essence of the 4th book (which is my only complaint about the 3rd movie). Sure the movie was choppy in the begining and they left out a few unimportant story lines but it hardly detracts from the entire movie.

I disliked GoF a lot. It was a massive backward step from Prisoner of Azkaban, which remains the only one to capture the feeling of the books and the general magic atmosphere at the school. Plus it was a damn fine film in many aspects; cinematography, editing, score, direction, CGI etc.

Acting sucked though. As it always will with HP movies.

I'm just sort of taking the movies as they come now. It's hard to get excited when the book series isn't even finished yet, and most people are waiting for that.

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Yeah, PoA was easily the best of the movies.

Personally, as long as they keep all the nastiness of the Ministry's takeover Hogwarts, I'll be happy.

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Hm, I'm afraid they're already cutting the wrong plot points. What I greatly disliked about OotP (the book) was the endless avalanche of shit rolling onto Harry, after some time it became just ridiculous (not to mention boring). But his ban from the Quidditch team is something movie goers could probably relate to fairly well, so why the hell are they cutting this?

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Hm... I personally thought all the movies were pretty bad. I mean, they cut out a whole lot from the actual storyline, so unless you actually read the book, it's pretty impossible to tell what's going on. Yes, I've followed the movies, but hm... they're starting to give me lesser and lesser satisfaction. o.O And Quidditch! I thought they did quite a good thing with it. They're cutting that out? =(

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Of course they cut out from the books. They have to. Read any decently sized book and watch the movie. They always have to cut stuff out.

Harry Potter, Ive heard, is actually pretty true to the books. I havn't read them, so I don't know. Speaking of which, I followed all the movies just fine without reading any of the books.

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I never even read this one; I was done after Goblet of Fire, so it will be cool to see the movie because God knows I'm never going to read the book.

I'm not against Quidditch/broomstick flying. I don't see why a few minutes of that in the film is such a huge deal especially considering the movies are always longer than 120 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Eleo

I'm not against Quidditch/broomstick flying. I don't see why a few minutes of that in the film is such a huge deal especially considering the movies are always longer than 120 minutes.

Good call. I don't even enjoy the flying in the movies. I thought they dragon flying in the last movie was done needlessly stupidly compared to how it was done in the book. Less obligation means more time for the meat of the story. I say good riddence to unneeded scenes.

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Originally Posted by Helloween

Good call. I don't even enjoy the flying in the movies. I thought they dragon flying in the last movie was done needlessly stupidly compared to how it was done in the book. Less obligation means more time for the meat of the story. I say good riddence to unneeded scenes.

I think Eleo was saying more of "why not have it in there"

I was actually a tad disapointed we didnt get to see any of the championship quidditch match in the 4th movie.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well I think in the 3rd one they pulled it off well. There wasn't a huge emphasis put on quidditch; a quidditch scene starts off abruptly and it's raining and Harry is flying and such, he counters the Death Eaters (I think) so not only was the scene sort of exciting quidditch action it also moved the plot forward. I'd rather see it briefly than not at all, but then again I'd rather not watch an entire game for the sake of it just being there.

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Originally Posted by avanent

I was actually a tad disapointed we didnt get to see any of the championship quidditch match in the 4th movie.

Agreed, all we got out of these world cup scenes were some impressive sets but in the end they did nothing with them. Instead they inflated the dragon trial ad nauseum. If I want to see big lizards animated for the heck of it, I'll gladly re-watch one of the Jurassic Park flicks.

I also dislike how the HP movies sometimes throw in minor plot points which either serve no purpose (bad) or aren't resolved (worse). An example: In PoA, the Weasley twins point out the nicknames of the creators of the Marauder's Map. And if I'm not very much mistaken, the movie never bothers to tell us who they actually are and why Harry's Patronum takes on a certain form (though I think they didn't quite show that anyway).

Granted, they can never put in everything, but a decent adaption should be at least fully coherent in itself, without any open threads and no unnecessary baggage either. Five minutes of well used additional screen time could do wonders sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Cyrus XIII

Granted, they can never put in everything, but a decent adaption should be at least fully coherent in itself, without any open threads and no unnecessary baggage either. Five minutes of well used additional screen time could do wonders sometimes.

Indeed, but sometimes five minutes is all a film needs to drag along when it was going perfectly well before. The best thing to do is find the theme of the book and try to cut things that don't relate to it.

God knows the OotP book could have done with some serious cutting. I hope they cut the right things for the film though.

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I wanted to see some quiditch in goblet of fire thats why I loved the other films but the nice chase scene was a good replacement.
I don't read the potter book but I love the movies so I am eagerly awaiting order of the phoenix

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Originally Posted by Kaleb.G

Personally, I had my fill of Quidditch with the other films. Then again, I'm not much of a sports guy, even if it involves flying around on brooms.

I'm waiting for a trailer. I loved all of the other films (the last two especially), so I'm highly anticipating this one.

My sentiment is exactly the opposite. I hated Goblet of Fire. Where do I begin? Hermione was psychic, because Harry never said what his dream was about. Harry never told Dumbledore, Fudge, and Moody that Crouch was dead. Did Harry even give the Maurauder's Map to Moody? I can't remember, because the movie was so bad. For some reason, the first time I watched the movie, Cedric Diggory's father's crying at the end seemed unbelievably fake to me and I almost wanted to laugh. And of course, Voldemort was alone with Wormtongue in Harry's dream that Hermione somehow found out about; the fact that they added Crouch Jr. into the scene was far from following the book, and Harry even tells Dumbledore that he saw the guy alive after the Pensive. The entire flow of the movie was unbelievably skewed.

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Originally Posted by neothe0ne

My sentiment is exactly the opposite. I hated Goblet of Fire. Where do I begin? Hermione was psychic, because Harry never said what his dream was about. Harry never told Dumbledore, Fudge, and Moody that Crouch was dead. Did Harry even give the Maurauder's Map to Moody? I can't remember, because the movie was so bad. For some reason, the first time I watched the movie, Cedric Diggory's father's crying at the end seemed unbelievably fake to me and I almost wanted to laugh. And of course, Voldemort was alone with Wormtongue in Harry's dream that Hermione somehow found out about; the fact that they added Crouch Jr. into the scene was far from following the book, and Harry even tells Dumbledore that he saw the guy alive after the Pensive. The entire flow of the movie was unbelievably skewed.

I didn't notice all of those faults... and I didnt hate GoF, but it was definately a step back from PoA. It beat the second one, and had more of a cool factor than the first one, although I think it is overal weaker than the first movie. Thus placing it in 3rd of the 4 movies, or second to last if you prefer that phrasing.

I actually read Order of the Pheonix, the only one I read... so it'll be interesting to see it on screen. Now, maybe stuff was cut from the end of the 4th one, or maybe my memory just fails me... or maybe it has to do with the fact I havn't read any of the other books...

But does it seem like the flow from the 4th movie into the 5th book will be sort of akward, or a bit too fast?

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I like Harry Potter, i've read all of them but I really can't remember what happened in Order of the Phoenix...I tend to read the book again when I know the movie is coming out just to keep myself updated. But as for the films, well they do their job at being family entertainment films. Sure they're not amazing but I think they're pretty easy to watch which I don't mind at all. Is there a trailer out?

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Lots of teen angst, evil fat lady tries to take over Hogwarts,

Spoiler:

big battle with Voldemort+DE's at the MoM, and Sirius dies.

That's about it in a nutshell...

No trailer yet, they're still filming.

I was speaking idiomatically.

The new Dumbledore actor sucks!

Priam from Troy wouldve played the character better.

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I don't read the Harry Potter books. I've always wanted to, but never had the time. However, I do enjoy the movies, with Prisoner of Azkaban being my favorite in the series. My new favorite is now the Order of the Phoenix.

I am aware of the many changes that the movies go through from the source material, including this film. However, I am going to have to say that none of that matters to me. That critique has become a platitude, and it is quite annoying. Considering how amazing this movie is, I wish people would separate the two mediums and accept this movie for what it is: a huge step forward for the series.

In every Harry Potter movie I always felt I was missing something. I always felt that you had to have read the book for some scenes to make sense. I hate it when scenes are added into a movie that does not fit just because it was in the book. But this didn't happen to me while watching the Order of the Phoenix, and for that very reason I enjoyed it so much more.

This film is everything that I hoped the Harry Potter series would be like: a perfect balance between humor and suspense; between exploration and character development. This movie had better themes, morals, and lessons than all of the movies combined. And the best part of all is that it leaves you wanting more. The finale is fantastic. This is the first Harry Potter movie that I wanted to see twice in the theaters.

Yeah, there are some problems, such as Cho Chang and Harry Potter's relationship not being resolved. I also felt the opening scenes were extremely rushed, with later scenes in the movie being underwritten to try and wrap everything up in time. And I really wish they would bring back Quidditch.

But overall I was never bored and I was constantly entertained. The Order of the Phoenix is NOT the weakest movie in the series. This is a solid movie and the best film I've seen this summer.

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I went and saw this movie yesterday and I actually liked it.

But that was because I didn't remember anything of what happened in the book (I read it ages ago) except that a major character dies and Harry acts like an asshole for a majority of the book.

Anyway, I liked it; it flowed well, and was very entertaining.

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I thought Cho and Harry's relationship didn't really have a resolution, and more like drifted apart after the while fiasco in the end. Then in the 6ht book they kinda stopped talking to each other.

Also question on a spoiler I heard in the rumour mill regarding a possible change:

Spoiler:

Trailer hinted that it was Cho who betrays them and not her friend, is this true?

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