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The Descent (Movie Spoilers) Questions.
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Old Aug 9, 2006, 01:06 AM Local time: Aug 9, 2006, 12:06 AM #1 of 20
The Descent (Movie Spoilers) Questions.

Well alright. Seen the movie. Was okay. Wasn't that great but it's been a better horror flick then recent one's in the past year. But the thing that confused the hell out of me was the ending? Did anyone catch on to what it meant? Was it just another one of her dreams when she see's Juno dead in her truck? I don't get it.

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Old Aug 9, 2006, 01:25 AM Local time: Aug 9, 2006, 07:25 AM #2 of 20
At what point did the movie end? Apparently they cut the very last part out for US release.

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Old Aug 9, 2006, 02:05 AM Local time: Aug 9, 2006, 01:05 AM #3 of 20
Well. The girl escapes, runs to her truck and drives off. Big rig passes by, she throws up, then Juno is seen dead at her side in her truck. Then the movie ends. It made no sense at all.

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Old Aug 9, 2006, 02:40 AM Local time: Aug 9, 2006, 08:40 AM #4 of 20
In the proper ending, the whole escape was a dream. She wakes up in the cave where she hit her head, and calmly stares at a vision of her daughter, as the crawlers are closing in.

God knows why they changed it.

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Old Aug 9, 2006, 07:06 AM Local time: Aug 9, 2006, 06:06 AM #5 of 20
It just seems silly that they did make the change. The US version just makes no sense at all. Though I suppose the reason because of that ending is because of her halusanations. She wasn't able to take her drugs the entire time down in the cave. Good movie though. Just a confusing ending. The other version makes more sense.

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Old Aug 9, 2006, 12:27 PM Local time: Aug 9, 2006, 11:27 AM #6 of 20
I thought the movie sucked balls. I saw the full ending where she realizes that the whole getting in the truck sequence wasn't real. The best part was when the girl accidentally chops her friend in the neck, and then just leaves her there. Hilarious.

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Old Aug 9, 2006, 12:41 PM Local time: Aug 9, 2006, 06:41 PM #7 of 20
Uhh I think the movie ended in the cave, where she's sitting in front of a birthday cake and you can see the crawlers comin' (no fucking joke!); I quite didn't get the ending as well, but that's nothing special, since I usually don't get clever endings. I disagree that this movie sucked, by the way, but that's another story.

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Old Aug 15, 2006, 08:52 PM #8 of 20
I just saw this movie and I wanted to comment on the ending (the US version of the ending, I guess.)

Maybe I've decided upon the interpretation of the ending my way because a dream sequence would be a load of bullshit. But yea.

I think guilt played a big part in this film. Guilt with Juno, you know. And in the end, Sarah (I think that was her name?) felt guilt that would haunt her life for having left Juno there to die with the crawlers after finding out how she pretty much killed her friend, there. And to add to the fact that Juno is a huge, raging ego maniac. Maybe like how Juno would feel if she had a soul? I don't know.

I noticed a definitive color shift though. When the big rig went by, the colors of the scene were that of a natural setting. Upon turning to the right where Sarah saw Juno, the colors faded to a dark, almost dusk-like blue.

I didn't see enough evidence to come to the conclusion that it was all one big dream, her escape. But I guess it must be how they WANTED it to end since the other versions show the crawlers coming in or some shit. I wonder if anyone can offer up a video of the alternate, European ending?

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Old Aug 15, 2006, 09:21 PM #9 of 20
I enjoyed the movie quite a bit too and the ending made me wonder for about FIVE SECONDS, before I disregarded the mystery is presented. I found the quality of the european female actors to be very refreshing after seeing so many American horror movies packed full of STUPID HOs.

I tried to post the link to the real ending but apparently I don't have enough posts to post links. Which is hilarious. Go to youtube and search for "The Deescent Ending".

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 04:52 AM Local time: Aug 16, 2006, 01:52 AM #10 of 20
When I saw the movie I was definitely upset that the bitch made it out in the end.

Sarah had no right to do what she did to the asian girl. I was hoping the entire time that Sarah wouldn't make it out. I suppose I should have lived in Europe to get that satisfaction.

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 08:49 AM #11 of 20
Originally Posted by Prosthetic
When I saw the movie I was definitely upset that the bitch made it out in the end.

Sarah had no right to do what she did to the asian girl. I was hoping the entire time that Sarah wouldn't make it out. I suppose I should have lived in Europe to get that satisfaction.
The Asian girl - Juno - did some pretty horrible shit to the rest of the women. What makes you root for HER and not Sarah. I am curious. Is this, like, an Asian fanboy thing? Because, you know, Juno pretty much fucked them all over and then really injured one of her friends (albeit accidentally) and LEFT HER TO DIE.

She was not a good person. Why do you think Sarah had no right?

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 10:10 AM Local time: Aug 16, 2006, 04:10 PM #12 of 20
If you all want, I could megaupload the alternate ending. It's in H.264 DVD quality format. It's 106 MB, I included the American ending as well to show how things evolve to the European ending.

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 10:46 AM #13 of 20
Originally Posted by MagicalVacation
If you all want, I could megaupload the alternate ending. It's in H.264 DVD quality format. It's 106 MB, I included the American ending as well to show how things evolve to the European ending.
How long is it? I mean, if it's a matter of just, you know, 3 or 4 minutes of extra footage, I'm happy with the quality that YouTube or Google Video offers. I mean, 106MB for a few minutes of footage that is MOSTLY just darkness anyways. But if you have MORE footage, I'd love to know how much you have.

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 11:39 AM Local time: Aug 16, 2006, 05:39 PM #14 of 20
well the alternate ending is indeed only a few minutes. They only problem is that I encoded the movie in H.264 at 3MB/s double-pass. And if I cut anything out, however small, it's going to end up being a big file.

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 12:08 PM #15 of 20
god, that movie was really not very good.

It was bad.

Seriously, when did it become acceptable to begin a story, then go wandering in a cave, and forget the END the story? The movie STOPPED, i know, and where it stopped doesn't matter, because the first quater of the movie just vanished into Nowhere land.

It's usually a good idea to resolve the storyline.

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 04:15 PM Local time: Aug 16, 2006, 01:15 PM #16 of 20
Originally Posted by Sassafrass
The Asian girl - Juno - did some pretty horrible shit to the rest of the women. What makes you root for HER and not Sarah. I am curious. Is this, like, an Asian fanboy thing? Because, you know, Juno pretty much fucked them all over and then really injured one of her friends (albeit accidentally) and LEFT HER TO DIE.

She was not a good person. Why do you think Sarah had no right?
And what did she do wrong, exactly? This has nothing to do with "asian fanboyism" I don't even really like asians. It's more to do with the "wtf" factor.

Okay, so she led them into an undiscovered cave. BIG FUCKING DEAL. It's not like she knew the cave was going to collapse and there were going to be mutants in there. If nothing had gone wrong, I'm sure the other girls would have been super happy.

Also, she hit the other girl in the neck and killed her... and? Oh, look she's in a FIT OF RAGE killing tons of cave leapers with a pick axe I think it would be a good idea to run up behind her really quickly! What was she supposed to do with the girl? Carry her on her back? She was DEAD.

After all that, I don't see a reason why the psychotic bitch Sarah got to live. She had no right.

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Old Aug 16, 2006, 07:45 PM Local time: Aug 16, 2006, 04:45 PM #17 of 20
Originally Posted by Devo
I read a review in which they mentioned that the American version was given a more optimistic ending, so one of them lives through it all. In the original, no one gets that opportunity.
Right on, yeah, that's what the thread was really for (I think?)

And it's not that I wished Juno had lived... I didn't really care about ANY of the characters (maybe that was a plot failure with the movie?), but I did want them all to not make it (maybe it wasn't a plot failure. =p)

I was especially happy to find that the bull dyke was the first one to go. Talk about relief.

And this movie confirms it: All asians know kung fu (i.e. Juno)

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Old Jan 7, 2007, 04:39 PM #18 of 20
what you think of this

Upon watching the movie I think I noticed a hidden storyline in the movie. I think Juno was having an affair with Sarah's husband. In the beginning Sarah and Juno and one other was white water rafting, then sarah pushed Juno in the water. Then Sarah's husband helped Juno out of the water there was a short pause where they were looking at each other like they had a secret. Then moments later right before the car accident Sarah asked her husband why he looked so distant ( I think he might have been thinking of telling Sarah about the affair, not totally aware of the approaching head on collision because of this). Thats just wahat i gathered as I watched, think the necklace may have more meaning too. When Sarah dangles it to Juno before she stabbed her in the leg, I think she may have realized the affair at this point which is another reason why she may have done the stabbing.
Anyways what you think of this idea?

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Old Jan 7, 2007, 04:48 PM Local time: Jan 7, 2007, 02:48 PM #19 of 20
And what did she do wrong, exactly? This has nothing to do with "asian fanboyism" I don't even really like asians. It's more to do with the "wtf" factor.

Okay, so she led them into an undiscovered cave. BIG FUCKING DEAL. It's not like she knew the cave was going to collapse and there were going to be mutants in there. If nothing had gone wrong, I'm sure the other girls would have been super happy.

Also, she hit the other girl in the neck and killed her... and? Oh, look she's in a FIT OF RAGE killing tons of cave leapers with a pick axe I think it would be a good idea to run up behind her really quickly! What was she supposed to do with the girl? Carry her on her back? She was DEAD.

After all that, I don't see a reason why the psychotic bitch Sarah got to live. She had no right.

She cheated with Sarah's husband. That right there is enough to set most women off.

Also she misled the other characters. The believed that they would be going to a well charted cave, have told the rangers that they'll be there if they get into trouble, but she didn't. So any attempts at help will be for naught even if they didn't meet up with the crawlers, one of the characters was already injured and they didn't know where to get out.


I personally liked the original ending more because I am a fan of downer endings since I never see enough of them. The American version did confuse me because how in the hell did Juno get out or was that a dream? The original made more sense. Now I can understand if the director gave a bit more of an explanation rather than edit just a minute of the footage to make it end out on the road.

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