[Rant] Most annoying experiences with people online

With online gaming, you always run the risk of running into a complete idiot. Whether they be spammers, people who think they're 1337, or just random idiots who are the sole reason for the word n00b. Now I'm not making this thread to bash people who just aren't good at a game because they're new or what not. But rather people who act so mind numbingly stupid, that you wish you could reach through the internet and slap them.

I think in most cases, I've been fairly lucky in this regard. Because inspite of some lousy parties I've had in MMORPGs and inspite of how many MMORPGs I've played. The one that sticks in my memory the most is actually from playing an RTS.

I was playing Battle for Middle Earth. I was using Isengard and I was playing against some guy using Rohan. I start building up my forces and after a short while, Rohan attacks. I obliterate his troops. I then start taking over the resources throughout the map. I soon realized he decide now that he was going to keep his forces in his base and turtle. Which left me to conquer the whole map aside from his base.

So as I'm taking over the last few pieces of land, he starts taunting me. Challenging me to attack him saying things like "Come on you *****! Attack me already! What the hell is taking you so long?". At this time I have several seige weapons, max troops, and all my heroes out. So I march over to his castle, blow open the wall, and slaughter his heroes who come rushing out. Then all the sudden "OMG! WTF? How old are you man?". I tell him my age and it turns out he's only like 13 and he starts going off on me saying things like "OMG! You loser! Why the hell are you playing a game? Go get a job!" to which my response was "I have a job. It's 2 am. Who do you think works at 2 am?" and his response is "Apparently you do you loser!". Which obviously made no sense and I finisher destroying his base as he continued to complain and throw mispelled obscenities at me.

Considering his spaz out, I can only imagine the kind of trash talk he'd be spewing if he was the one winning.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I think the most annoying experiences I have are:

1)Some jackass decides to run around and beg everyone, including you, for rarez and moneyz. Then when you refuse, they start talking shit and call you obscene names.

2)You try to be nice and help out a newbie, only to find out they didn't listen to a thing you said despite typing it out IN CAPS in hopes they realise what you're saying is crucial.

3)Random jerks who go around sexually harassing you just cause you play as a girl, and more if you really are one.

All these happen in my gaming on PSU.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I've played with plenty of annoyances in PSU as well. Except this is one the 360 version. I really hate playing with stingy little kids. Why?

1. They keep talking just to hear themselves talk.

2. They have the most annoying high pitched whiny voice. I remember telling quite a few of them to come back after they hit puberty.

3. They tend to boss you around in a group or argue when you tell them they're wrong about something.

4. They are quick to boot you if they are the party leader if you say or do something they don't like.

5. They are very fucking stingy when it comes to items. When it comes to finding a rare they will delay the whole mission in order to sit there and beg you for it. Who gives a crap about the rest of the party who wants to beat it on time.

6. If and when they do what they want they will drop out mid-mission which then in return slows down the party with one less person to fight. Even though half the time they were useless anyway since they never upgrade equipment or spend all their time in the lobby begging for money that could easily be made in less than an hour.

How ya doing, buddy?

When the game is not about fun, and it turns in some serious business:

- Try to do pvp on a game with massive balance flaws.

- Try to compete against well known "illegit" guilds/clans/whatever, that for some unknown reason haven't been banned. (And probably never will)

- Guys abusing bugs/exploits/whatever, and think they are cool because of it. Oh and everyone is jealous/stupid or stuff. (Maybe they are right )

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I can't stand it when I take time out of my day to help a lowbie, give 'em a free run because they happened to ask when I had a bit of free time, then they continue to pester you for the next week for more free runs. That's horribly rude and extremely annoying. You don't want to act like a complete ass and tell them off for it, because they are probably too stupid to realize what they are doing, so you just stick them on ignore, then all their friends message you asking why you blocked him. I don't help out anybody except friends and guild/clanmates in games anymore because of that situation.

Today in WoW I was in a run, and some rogue threw a damn fit, first wanting to charge us 1G each to open a locked chest in a dungeon because we couldn't have opened it without her. Well...you know, there are such things as blacksmiths and skeleton keys, and she couldn't have gotten there without is in the first place. I said maybe we should charge her 1G each to get her to the damn chest. I won the item on a greed roll after she wanted to need it (blue gemstone, worth ~30g on AH, not soulbound, obvious greed roll there). Then she continued to pester me for it, wanted to know if she could cut it a cut I'd already said I didn't want. Then she wanted to buy it for 10g, which I said fuck you, because it's 20g higher on AH. Then she tried to give me some bullshit about how inflation made it 20-25g. So she basically admitted she was trying to shaft me right there. Well after dying multiple times (full wipes, sometimes just a couple members) because the tank and healer were both the worst I'd seen in ages, and after wiping 3 times on the first miniboss, I said "this is pathetic" and left. Armor costs money to repair and we obviously weren't going anywhere. Well I get back to the AH and find out the item is actually going for 40g. Then she pst's me with some sort of venomous hissy-fit remark, obviously still feeling entitled to that gemstone or something.

In this case I didn't have any problem telling her off.

The first time I ever got pissed off at an online gamer was way back with Starcraft. We started and he wanted a no-rush rule for the first 20 minutes. I told him no, he threw a fit and pleaded with me, so I just ignored him and said nothing. I did a standard zealot-rush on his base. He started spamming "hacker" in the chat window...ugh.

I don't get why people think the internet gives them license to act like an absolute asshole. There are such things as manners and social norms on the internet, even if there are far less than in RL.

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One of the newest annoying experience I've encountered (in WoW) involves the new battleground AFK penalty. Where if you gain the status of <AFK> while in a battleground game, you're automatically kicked out with deserter status. So, a massive amount of players are constantly spamming "Type /AFK report to report all AFKers!"

I, while foolishly not understanding text commands fully yet, typed it. It was then that I realized the command simply first puts me on AFK status and then follows a subdirective to leave a message saying "Report." So, I basically get kicked out of the battleground with an away message.

All that learning from FFXI:Online gone to waste :(

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Hmm, when I play counterstrike I find that a few things annoy me about people online.

There's the iconic 12 year old cliche. Their voices all sound the same and they're always pissed off and calling people fags (or, ironically, 12 years old). They all feel the need to know your age if you make fun of them and proudly state their age (generally younger than 15.) and act as though that validates them in some way. Somehow I can't say anything bad about you cause you're 13 entire years old.

I think its worse when they're better than me. I'm pretty awful at FPS games so I don't take that personally.

MMORPGs have a few things in common. People who love naruto, people who love shitty anime, people who talk really cutsey when they have a "cute" character model (ie: tarutaru in ffxi). It's all very odd to me and annoying.

I'm no saint myself, I've done a huge amount of griefing in my day. It's a good laugh being on that side of the spectrum (if you're doing it intentionally).

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Sonus

One of the newest annoying experience I've encountered (in WoW) involves the new battleground AFK penalty. Where if you gain the status of <AFK> while in a battleground game, you're automatically kicked out with deserter status. So, a massive amount of players are constantly spamming "Type /AFK report to report all AFKers!"

I, while foolishly not understanding text commands fully yet, typed it. It was then that I realized the command simply first puts me on AFK status and then follows a subdirective to leave a message saying "Report." So, I basically get kicked out of the battleground with an away message.

All that learning from FFXI:Online gone to waste

That's actually reportable and those guys can get a ban for doing that kinda shit. =\

As for my own story... well, lemme just put it this way: My first 70 on WoW is a warrior, and at the time of this little story was pretty much PVP spec. I'm tanking Shadow Labyrinth with a healer, a hunter friend of mine (who was... let's just say very close to me at the time), and the hunter's rogue friend. Long story short, the rogue was specced 0/0/61 (full Subtlety), in around 2.1, before Shadowstep was... well, anything even approaching decent. Needless to say, while tanking (a role which precludes doing good damage because all my gear has to have stats for survivability, and the gear system in WoW doesn't allow for gear to have all the damage and tanking stats you need to be good in either role) I was doing competitive damage with this guy. Add in the fact that my Hunter friend was repeatedly pulling aggro off of me (Keep in mind that Hunters ALSO have a move that gets rid of ALL their threat meaning that when they do it, it's like they never TOUCHED the mob, on a THIRTY SECOND COOLDOWN, and you'll see how "good" a player this guy was), and I was a little bit cranky.

Anyway, I strike up a bit of a debate with the Rogue concerning Shadowstep. My Hunter friend takes it REALLY personally. To make a long story short, I, who was using this weapon (Terokk's Quill - Items - World of Warcraft), got ninja'd out of this weapon (Sonic Spear - Items - World of Warcraft)... by my hunter friend... who already HAD one.

I'll admit I was a little childish in arguing about the damn thing, but considering that he did something so petty like that over a debate (in which NO insults were flung at all)?

We don't speak anymore.

Oh, BTW, that Hunter friend also got caught cybering with his "sister" in public channels and told me "I don't do private channels" later on. I *really* know how to pick 'em.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I had a similar experience like that in hellfire ramparts, which involved another pet peeve of mine. A boe blue dropped, and since I'm a dest lock, and it provided +spell crit, +int, and +dmg, I asked if I could need the item. No response. For like a minute. Just before the roll cooldown was up, I clicked need. Nobody had said ANYTHING at this point mind you, and I'd asked like 3 times about. All of the sudden the mage in my group throws an absolute TANTRUM about it. I told him that if he needed the item, he should have needed it, not greeded it. He just spammed me with a ton of "ninja looters" and blocked me. The next day he got a different trinket he liked better and spoke to me once more on a blood furance run. Volatile little kid. What really pisses me off is that it wasn't just the kid - everyone else in the group was grumbling about it.

About an hour later I checked the kid's character level - 58. The item required level 63 to use. This probably sounds really stupid and petty to anyone who hasn't played WoW, but that is definitely not a need. That's just kind of an unspoken rule. Like how I don't need greens because I can use the disenchant on it. Which brings me to another thing that really pisses me off about that rogue I talked about earlier - I don't throw a fit when nobody can use a boss blue and I get it for d/e, and they all roll on the shard, and I have to give it away. I just take it as part of game etiquette. I don't get mad and think I should charge for the d/e because if I couldn't do it, than nobody could d/e, and the item would be useless w/o me.

There's lots of really seemingly small things and if you haven't played WoW or any MMO's it probably seems pretty silly to get upset over such small things, and I'm not sure how to put in words just how obvious it is in these games that you just dont act like how we are describing.

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Generally age does equal higher maturity, but I hate when people use that as some sort of trump card. Since I'm nearly 21 now that issue doesn't come up so often, but I often say, I know a kid who's 14, and he's far more mature about his online personality than a 27 year old I know. Kid was taught good values, the 27 year old is spoiled something sick.

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Oh yes! And I hate getting in any discussions about class specialization, because it invariably ends up with people telling me that I should go affliction. I'm sorry, but I quite happen to enjoy the destruction tree, and whether or not the afflic tree really is better, I don't enjoy playing it, so I'm not going to. I play the game to have some amount of fun, and I don't need to be the absolute best to have fun. I've chosen the talents I have for a reason, and as a matter of fact, spent hundreds of gold in re-alignments to get them where they are.

Of course one way to shut them up fast is to just duel them, since dest locks rival the burst damage a mage does if their crit rate is high enough.

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Eh, to be honest I don't mind what people spec. I'm generally very open-minded when I form a group, and have run a ton of 5-mans with no CC at all (of course, I tanked all those because to be honest half the time I don't trust anybody else TO tank). The problem is when people do utterly retarded things, like that 0/0/61 rogue. There is a grand total of one class that can seriously get away with speccing like that without giving something amazing up, and that's a resto shaman (who usually specs either 0/5/56 or 0/0/61), and even that's arguable (Elemental Warding and Reverbation for example, are both good talents in a different tree). Frost mages can SORT of get away with it, but they also give up the utility of Improved Counterspell, the better sheeps from the Tier 1 -resist% talent, and Clearcasting.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I always laugh when people expect me to CC with a succubus. The spell lasts a grand total of like 10 seconds (if that, I'm not entire sure since I don't ever use my succ, I just know it was a total failure last time I tried) so I'm always having to switch away from DPS to monitor the status of whatever she's seducing. Only works on a select few mobs. At any rate they effectively lose an entire DPS member of their party because I'm too busy trying to keep something seduced. Then some dumbass keeps aoe'ing the entire area and blames me for not keeping enemy X under seduction. Ugh. Warlocks are NOT an effective means of crowd control, unless you are up against demons. Then we kickass . Banish & enslave.

I generally figure that whatever people have specced, that's what they know how to play best. Hell, I'll admit, affliction probably is the best spec to go, both for pve and pvp. I don't think it's any fun to play though, so I don't, so I don't tell people they should switch to something else (partly because I know very little about other classes, partly because it's their own damn choice!)

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

One time my roommate and I actually started Role Playing in Guild Wars. You know, talking like the NPCs, saying how we needed to do the quest and yearning about whatever stuff we figured adventurers yearned about. It was actually pretty cool, half the team totally hated us and the other half joined in.

I'd say most of my worst experiences online come from abusive admins on FPS servers. I know there's thousands of servers out there that offer the same exact game, but damnit if it's not annoying to be having a great round with a good bunch of people only to have an admin come in and kick anyone with a 1:1 ratio or better. Or they just start kickbanning anyone they think is cheating.

The other biggest frustration is games that don't have a simple mute specific player button. I was playing TF2 yesterday when three dicks join the game and start spamming various songs/memes at full volume. I quit the server after I hear desu on repeat for about 5 minutes.

Thankfully I never got into MMORPGs much, otherwise I'd feel much more depressed about the state of online gaming than I already do.

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The Battle.net community. Heck, any Blizzard game is terrible. Its like Gaia Online meets Counterstrike kid and the baby from said procreation is mentally handicapped.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

I don't get mad and think I should charge for the d/e because if I couldn't do it, than nobody could d/e, and the item would be useless w/o me.

Oh god... that reminds me of Everquest. So many people got rich in that off charging for teleports and buffs.

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

Generally age does equal higher maturity, but I hate when people use that as some sort of trump card. Since I'm nearly 21 now that issue doesn't come up so often, but I often say, I know a kid who's 14, and he's far more mature about his online personality than a 27 year old I know. Kid was taught good values, the 27 year old is spoiled something sick.

That reminds me of something that happened in CoV. I had a friend who was like 15 I think. This one guy in his late 20s we were grouping with got into an argument with him and was swearing and talking like he was so tough and nobody better talk bad to him. Then he wants my friend to battle him in the arena without his pets when he's a pet class...

I remembered a really annoying experience I had in City of Villains. We had a team that had a Brute in it. Brute's are the closest thing the villain side gets to a tank and if their rage bar fills up they can do insane amounts of damage. It kind of encourages you to not take breaks inbetween fights. However this doesn't work in a team mission since the number of enemies is increased for every team member.

This guy I teamed with would not stop. He countless times ran ahead of the team or actually in a different direction then the rest of the team. Argued with me that since he's the Brute he should be leading the way even though I'm the team leader. I even died several times trying to keep him alive, finally near the end of the mission he dropped out and started telling everyone in his supergroup and coalition chat about how President Evil(me) kept getting him killed. Well one of the people in his coalition was in my team as well, told them what really happened and he was booted from his supergroup. Something is just so enjoyable when someone gets what they deserve.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Any online game with free play has the worst of the worst. Having to pay filters out a large chunk of the morons. Even then, a lot still manage to filter through. A large portion of those folks play Final Fantasy XI, a haven for the largest concentration of elitist pricks ever conceived. One of my favorite memories from the game was a discussion with numerous monk players who said that it was expected for a player to farm for gil for a straight month to afford an Ochiudo's Kote (read: a pair of frickin gloves) before leveling the class past 35. Not a suggestion mind you... it was a demand. Apparently they missed the boat on what that 'G' stands for in MMORPG.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by RacinReaver

The other biggest frustration is games that don't have a simple mute specific player button. I was playing TF2 yesterday when three dicks join the game and start spamming various songs/memes at full volume. I quit the server after I hear desu on repeat for about 5 minutes.

If you press esc while on a server there's a "Mute Players" option, and you can proceed to mute anyone you want.

BF2 has been my most annoying experience solely because most people WANNA FLY THE JET. I FLY JET GREAT, KILL LOTSA PEOPLE. WANNA BE COMMANDER TOO. And then they manage to get a few teamkills before getting dominated by the enemy pilots, and what few people who aren't waiting in line for a jet get owned by the combined enemy air and ground forces.

WASN'T MY FAULT WE LOST, WAS THAT RETARD IN THE TANK. YEAH, I SAW U SHOOTIN GUYS I WAS ABOUT TO BOMB. SO I BOMBED U INSTEAD, TARD.

And then of course, there's WoW. Instances with dumb people can be annoying, but I've always thought battlegrounds were far worse. It's hard to believe how long the game has been out, and people are still using the same losing strategies.

Warsong Gulch - "Might want to stop fighting midfield and defend the flagrunner/kill the enemy flagrunner."
Arathi Basin - "Might want to stop grouping at blacksmith and take a third node/defend that defenseless node."
Alterac Valley - "Might want some defense."
Eye of the Storm (okay, so it hasn't been around as long, but people are proportionately dumber here) - "Hey, two towers might be nice. Kinda can't win with only one. Three's even better, you kinda win."

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Originally Posted by Parn

A large portion of those folks play Final Fantasy XI, a haven for the largest concentration of elitist pricks ever conceived.

JAPAN ONRY!

I played FFXI for one summer right after it came out, and there was just too much I didn't like about it to keep me from enjoying it for any longer. The economy was in shambles the minute the game launched, too much of a grind to do anything, complete dependence on rare drops or the auction house for any sort of equipment upgrades, all kinds of stuff. I did have a really good experience with a very nice high leveled player who basically showed me the ropes for nothing at all, and on the whole the community wasn't too bad, but the gameplay just wasn't what I expected.

My most annoying experiences probably come from WoW, since ended up playing it more. I had an account until about a year and a half ago with a bunch of my friends. We got pretty far, I had nearly all purples on my priest and we raided Molten Core and Nafarian's Lair pretty regularly, but my biggest annoyances were the people who stole from the guild. You never really saw it coming, sometimes they were people who had been on several raids, sometimes they were new, but every once and a while you'd get people who steal chests or items from bosses they weren't supposed to loot (the boss with the chest right before Ragnaros was a big one, can't think of his name...). Sometimes they'd play it off as an accident, sometimes they'd disband right there and hearth out, but I still never understood why people do this. They tarnish their rep forever over an item and ruin other people's fun. I guess some people just get too caught up in chasing that brass ring (or tradeable purple) that they lose sight of what's important.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I hate, when you help a player (as DarkLink said)that is starting just because you have free time and good mood, you help him, and days later he/she comes back or pms , saying they need help or they wanna party because they can't level alone.

Another thing is buffer that believe they are the most necessary member in a party, they wanna be protected and unharmed, and they will just buff, even when they have enough skills to help the party kill faster or at least give it time to survive a difficult situation, but instead of doing it they just sit to regen mana, till the next buff round.

It is also annoying when you try to make a party to exp or raid, and if there are no buffers or there are just 2 members , they leave , it's like: "Could you at least wait, if people like you keep leaving cause the party is not ready, then it will never be ready."

So ok, you have the party, but guess what..... players are kind of blind or they do not know their role as certain class. I hate when I tank ( Gladiator in Lineage II, they are DD not tank -.-) , cause the real tank of the party is clueless of what their role is, or because they can't hold aggro. Or when summoners end up as healers cause the healer can't manage its mana. Hopefully, I now party people I know and trust.

How ya doing, buddy?

This wasn't days later in my case. This was 2-3 times a day, immediately after I'd helped him. Admittingly, I probably pushed the issue, because I promised to help him get an axe, and I invited a guildmate to the group and he won the item in a need role, so I felt a bit guilty there. I ran him probably 5+ more times through SM arms, which is easy as piss for a then 65 warlock, although a bit costly to the armor, and mildly irritating. I put up with his shit for prolly 3 days before putting him on ignore.

IN addition to what you were saying, kanzaki, it's especially irritating when we have 4 out of 5 members, and people can't stand to wait 15-20min for to find a tank or healer, whichever we might need, and start leaving. Ugh. Even worse when the missing member is a DPS, which in WoW, are as easy to find as whores in a crack house.

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Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

Even worse when the missing member is a DPS, which in WoW, are as easy to find as whores in a crack house.

I don't know of a game where DPS isn't the easiest thing to find. Tanks and Healers are the things that nobody wants to be.

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Probably one of the more annoying things for me came from Maplestory (shut up <_<). Since the whole game is 2D and it doesn't bother showing you everyone on the map unless you're within three feet of them, I especially hate people who claim they were there first killing enemies when you know damn well you saw them walk in after you. The little shits that claim that this was there territory and they were in it first and they're probably about 20 levels weaker than you also...

Hate that kind of shit.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I have seen way too many woes of my time on Official WoW.

The Battleground were the best. XD

~ Ah!! Cmon get the damn flag and stop turtling already!!! or the common, am I the only one over here who wants to win? I swore I was organizing most BG I played in..

~ Or the idiotic beggars.. -_- I give 1g out of genorosity and bam!! They expect more.. F*** off, go farm yourself.

~The whole party are impatient and leaves 2 mins before we get a nice tank/healer. Then someone else fills his/her spot and bitches about it.

~ Telling me to switch specs because it is better.. Psh. Anyone can pretty much kill with any build, just gotta know how to do it. I like my purty Elemental(Ice and Fire) build because it gives me the best of both world.

~ Noobs in general, enough said. It's not that all of them are bad just most of them are.

~ The classic who gets to roll need/greed for this *insert item here* bitching. Ah.. I went through so many guilds because of that.

That's pretty much it. Overall, its not bad expieriences. Just stupid ones.

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Probably one of the more annoying things for me came from Maplestory (shut up <_<). Since the whole game is 2D and it doesn't bother showing you everyone on the map unless you're within three feet of them, I especially hate people who claim they were there first killing enemies when you know damn well you saw them walk in after you. The little shits that claim that this was there territory and they were in it first and they're probably about 20 levels weaker than you also...

Hate that kind of shit.

That's one of the reason why I stopped playing MS. Lame fuckers think they "own" a map since they were on it first. Hell I get shit because I was just passing to go to the next map. I said," Fine, I was just passing througn, but forget it. I'll stay here." Pisses em off so bad..

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

IN addition to what you were saying, kanzaki, it's especially irritating when we have 4 out of 5 members, and people can't stand to wait 15-20min for to find a tank or healer, whichever we might need, and start leaving.

I think if I had to wait 15-20 minutes to start playing a game after I had already launched it then I'd just uninstall it right then.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by DarkLink2135

I always laugh when people expect me to CC with a succubus. The spell lasts a grand total of like 10 seconds (if that, I'm not entire sure since I don't ever use my succ, I just know it was a total failure last time I tried) so I'm always having to switch away from DPS to monitor the status of whatever she's seducing. Only works on a select few mobs. At any rate they effectively lose an entire DPS member of their party because I'm too busy trying to keep something seduced. Then some dumbass keeps aoe'ing the entire area and blames me for not keeping enemy X under seduction. Ugh. Warlocks are NOT an effective means of crowd control, unless you are up against demons. Then we kickass . Banish & enslave.

Warlock CC vs humanoids with seduce is very flexible and do-able without too much frustration and hassle. If you want to know how I do it with my warlock while also DPSing at the same time (Probably at about a 25-50% DPS loss while CCing), I'll send you a PM.

Anyway, here's another pet peeve of mine in WoW:
Stupid people, when it comes to PvPing. I'm playing in a Alterac Valley game and I got killed so early on at Iceblood graveyard. Okay, Horde is trying to do a defensive game, but in their favor where their 3-5 man squadrons slowly cap all our junk. In the meantime of course, Alliance is just constantly feeding themselves to the slaughter.

I ask myself:
-Why do these people go in one at a time? (To bunkers and graveyards when there clearly is a group of Horde watching the place)
-Why do these people play so ignorant? (Of course the other team ISN'T going to stop and pick one guy to solo you. You are going to get ganged up on if you venture out solo!)

Since I ressurrected(?) back to our starting defenses, I decided to play defense and try to keep our bunker archers alive. I'm a warlock, so basically I just defend them.

At one point, I'm fighting off a rogue in the Dun Baldar South Bunker. This other ally warlock comes in and looks straight at the wall away from my little scuffle. THEN, he slowly turns around towards the fight like he's in first person view or playing with a keyboard only, no mouse, while doing nothing still. It was just one of those face-palm moments.

Immediately I thought to myself, "When are you going to attack the rogue who is totally not hammering you down with CC?" So I quickly type in say chat, "Take your time!"

I'm hybrid spec between Affliction and Demonology with Soul Link while also decked out in Vengeful Gladiator/Gladiator/Vindicator epic gear, so I'm tanking this rogue down for quite a while. Just when the other warlock decides to make his move, a shaman and two other rogues charge on in and kill us both.

Where the hell do these stupid people come from? Sure, we might of still died, but if we could of at least burned down that rogue, we could of killed one more before wiping. Bunker archer's 500-900 damage shots plus my DoTs and Nightfall procs, we had a chance. (As well as cumulative damage from his DoTs).

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AV is a terribly designed battleground. Where horde always has to charge between the two bunkers and take massive damage from the arrows, allies can dodge right around them and head straight for our graveyard.

The 25-50% DPS loss is what I don't like. Mostly because when people have wanted me to do it, it's been with groups that have accidentally pulled another 1, sometimes 2 mobs, and still survived the encounter. We're damn good, don't need that kind of crowd control, especially with a mage, sometimes 2 in the group...

Originally Posted by RacinReaver

I think if I had to wait 15-20 minutes to start playing a game after I had already launched it then I'd just uninstall it right then.

You don't. You do realize that while waiting to find a 5th member, you aren't just floating around in limbo unable to do anything? Or that the first 15 or so levels are virtually solo-only? Hell I could solo the entire game, it's not like parties are required.

Jam it back in, in the dark.