Old School Gamers: Your opinion of FFX?

I was wondering what the opinion of Final Fantasy 10 is of old school gamers like me. People that love the 2d's a lot more on average compared to the 3d FF games -- perhaps, people that find more 2d games on their favorite lists.

I didn't get too far on it a long time ago and I felt that it had too much storyline and not enough play. It has been 4 years and I'm at a point that I might start it again.

I am counting on the opinion of people that are more like me so I can understand what they think about the game. It's obviously fine if you consider yourself old school but still like FF10. It's all open to opinion now.

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Uhh... old school means you prefer 2d? Well, I don't really care about the graphics either way, so... the game is good. Give it a shot. There is PLENTY of gameplay. It's even more packed with things to do than the oldschool FFs.

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Can you name some of those things?

My old, old 2002 memory of FFX was... 10 minutes of time of watching scenes and 5 minutes of gameplay. Totally bad ratio there...

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Borg, that's called an opening sequence. You know, where they thematically introduce concepts and storyline? The actual game happens later. An old school gamer would know that. Also, the 2d games were ALL about story. They didn't have the graphics to back it up.

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I'm not arguing for or against something.

Way past the beginning I felt like I was seeing too many Tidus & Yuna scenes and far less gameplay. But it's been a long time and I'm thinking of giving it a 2nd chance. I just came here to find opinion & info on the game.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I wouldn't say I'm an old-school fan, since I haven't played many 2D FF games.

That said, I enjoyed FFX. It's not my fave FF game, but I liked the story and I didn't think the voice acting was as hideous as people say. The Sphere Grid was awesome. didn't like how they reverted back to the old games and basically recoloured enemies several times and passed them off as new enemies. I hated that. I also hated the mini-games, especially Dodger Chocobo. I didn't understand Blitzball at all.

As you get further into the game, you do get to go back to other areas and do all the sidequests and stuff that should satisfy the gameplay requirement. The fact there's no world map may look to some as a hindrance when it comes to actual gameplay.

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FFX was actually a good game, but nothing that great. Sure, you prefer 2D, but don't you want to experience the beauty of having a 3D environment for your characters to roam around? And gameplay-wise FFX has a lot more to offer compared to your old 2D games, but story-wise, I can say that FFX caters to the pre-puberty/puberty demographics.

Blitzball still fucking sucks.

FELIPE NO

Well in FFX you have alot of things to do:
-when you try to get the Ultimate Weapons for everybody.
-The Arena in Calm lands and collecting all the monster data.
-Chocobo racing I enjoyed so much for some reason.
-BlitzBall is a HUGE task itself.
-Getting the last 2 Aeons (I forgot if its sidequest actually)
-I forgot what its called be getting to Omega Weapon is also a sidequest

Then the game itself has good gameplay. Yes it stops you alot of times but at least its not as bad as Xenosaga...which had CG all over the place in the game

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Originally Posted by vemp

Blitzball still fucking sucks.

BLASPHEMER!

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I enjoyed FFX, and I have played all the way through and gotten all of the special weapons on three seperate occasions. The story, once you really decipher it, is probably the best and most satisfying out of any Final Fantasy story. What I love most is that Spira feels like a real place, with real people, and a real culture and real history all its own, not just another nameless, faceless Final Fantasy world that serves no purpose other than to give the characters something to walk around on. Really, the world of Spira and its history are inseparable from the story and gameplay. This has never happened in any other FF game that I have played, and that is why I love FFX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spira_%...l_Fantasy_X%29

An article like that could never be written about any other Final Fantasy game.

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What? Get out of my internet Deni! Everyone knows Blitzball is shit, don't mislead the 2D fan, for he might actually like it.

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I really liked FFX , blitzball had no real importance but you had to get wakka's limit breaks somehow right. It had alot to keep you busy and the aoens were damn better than the eidolons :/
I really miss the 2d art for the backgrounds though. All the new rpgs are relying on everything 3d but the art in previous final fantasy's, like VIII, had some awsome art for the dungeons and villages. Especially Balamb Garden.

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Originally Posted by vemp

What? Get out of my internet Deni! Everyone knows Blitzball is shit, don't mislead the 2D fan, for he might actually like it.

YOU GTFO MY INTERNET VEMP.

Blitzball was awesome. Maybe if you spent more time with people like me, who are awesome at games, and less with people like Elixir, who sucks at gamez, you would know that!

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well, Elixir sucks more than I do even if he spends more time and money on games, he just don't have the "talent". But that doesn't change the fact that blitzball is still the worst idea for a mini-game. It's even worse the FFIX's card game.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

well some people seem to prefer more pizza's than hamburgers if you get my drift.

and I think its safe to say that there are no addicting mini games in final fantasy. FF7 had the worst ones anyway.

FELIPE NO

I enjoyed my playthrough, but I have several huge reservations about it.

1. Definitely not a fan of the like-character-kills-like-enemy battles. Some say its' strategic, I found it too easy and it got old within 10 hours.

2. Sphere Grid needed tweaking...I would have preferred a system where the game handles stat boosts behind the scenes and allow movement only for learning abilities. Manually doing every little stat was fun at first, then it got old. Good idea, slightly flawed implementation.

3. Traveling world map preferrable.

4. Aeons are too powerful and were no fun to use (aside from the Magus Sisters). Would have preferred something just being a quick spell and then move on.

5. Too linear. The travel set-up contributes something to that, but it really felt like it was constantly Point A-Travel-Along-Designated-Path-Point B-and-we're-really-going-to-take-our-time-doing-it.

6. Characters were okay...I liked the cast more than previous FF's, but I never got over my disliking of Nomura's style at any point. Wishy washy Yuna was annoying for most of the game though and all of the "Oh Great Summoner" dialogue threads were clicked over as fast as possible.

Overall, it was a fine game. The story was good, boss battles were much better than the normal battles (Boss Rush mode would have rocked), music and graphics were excellent and I thought the ending was satisfying (at least enough to be offended by the patchwork FFX-2 tried to do)...It was definitely the best RPG for the PS2 when it was released. Nowadays...Er, not so much. I still prefer the storyline, gameplay and pacing of FF4 and 6.

Edit: #7. Marboro's (the stat-effects plant monsters) were a BITCH in this game. I'm thinking mostly of the ones in the final area.

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Originally Posted by vemp

Well, Elixir sucks more than I do even if he spends more time and money on games, he just don't have the "talent". But that doesn't change the fact that blitzball is still the worst idea for a mini-game. It's even worse the FFIX's card game.

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Originally Posted by Shenlon

and I think its safe to say that there are no addicting mini games in final fantasy.

WHAT?

Triple Triad for the win.

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I would consider myself old school in the sense that I play RPGs more for the exploration of the world than for the development of the core story. I prefer to immerse myself in a world through subtlety and imagination rather than through cutscenes and contrived events. I prefer to go explore that mysterious dungeon myself rather than to be noticeably (the key word, I guess; all RPGs have a beginning, end, and everything in-between) forced into doing it by the story. In that sense games like Nocturne and Metal Saga could be considered old school despite the fact that they're 3D.

That being said, I found FFX to be an okay game. I consider it a step down from IV, V, VI, and VII (my favorites in the series), but it has a lot of polish and the pacing is pretty steady and the story involving. My main problem with X was that the whole experience seemed a bit hollow by the time I got to the end. The game just wasn't very memorable to me. Other than that I didn't care much for the cast, the temple-hopping linearity, the tacked on "side quests", and the deceptively inflexible Sphere Grid. I'd only recommend it if you have nothing better to play.

If you want to play a game that has FFX's strengths but fewer of its weaknesses, I'd suggest Shadow Hearts Covenant. The whole vibe I got from that game was, "this is FFX done right".

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In regards to the Blitzball, I initially HATED it and thought, why can't I have a real time mini game rather than it being based on stats? It wasn't until I was on the Celestial Weapons quest that forced me to play the BB for Wakka's weapons. At first my team was pretty bad, I didn't even bother trying to understand it, but given some time, I started using the Jecht shot quite a bit. Soon enough, I gained enough experience to power up my guys and play the exhibition game, then moved onto the tournaments. It's now my second most favorite mini game, which only Triple Triad from FFVIII takes first place. I wasn't much of a fan of most of the Wonderland Saucer games, some of them were interesting, like Cloud's motorcycle chase.

In regards to the game as a whole, it's surely worth a playthrough. I likened the rich visuals it had to offer, despite not really being my type of "technological advancement vs religious dominance to repent for the sins" story (which still you can tell the game developers spent considerable amount of time). I think FFX has taken up most hours of all Final Fantasies I've played, and it was the weapons quest that took the most time. Furthermore, this was my first RPG for the PS2, and the opening scene as well as the first few cutscenes, caught and swept me into the world quite well. I think FFXII will be able to help capture that "magical world" again.

What I really didn't care for was the puzzle solving with the trials. Wasn't this for Yuna to do to test her summon skills (and further enhance her skills) as she already has attained the rank of summoner when she receives her first Aeon, Valfor, if I recall correctly. I found Tidus having to do it somewhat odd, to move onto the next location.

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I'm an old school RPG player. My opinion of FFX?

Throw it in the trash. Watching every possible malady befall the disc would be more worth the price of paying for the game than actually playing the game itself.

Any variation of the word "trash" applies. Quite literally, it is garbage.

When you are told at the beginning of the game that "FIRE MAGIC WORKS ON ICE FIENDS" you feel an overwhelming punch in the gut, almost insulting to the point of death. The sphere grid was the most ridiculous piece of work I've ever seen. The "battle system" was flawed to the point where no battle could be lost (AEON SACRIFICE FTL) at all, without even going through and mentioning the shitty tag system. English VA sucked. The story was bland and forgettable, much like the cast of the game. The mini-games were shitty. There is one good thing I will say about the game though.

It brought about FFX-2, which is what the first game should have just been to begin with. That is all.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I loved FFX's battle system. It was sort of like FFT as far as the manner in which the time between your turn and the enemies turns are decided. Plus, you could actually sit and plan without being attacked. I liked the Sphere grid too. The story rocks, and most of the voices other than Tidus' and Yuna's were good.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Kostaki

I'm an old school RPG player. My opinion of FFX?

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It brought about FFX-2, which is what the first game should have just been to begin with. That is all.

I believe you are the first I have met who prefers the sequel to the original of this particular game.

FELIPE NO

I enjoyed FFX. It's not my favorite FF game but I found it satisfying all the way through, with a good cast and a great story. It was good enough for me to go back and play it again (a few years later).

It was certainly far better than its trashy sequel, FFX-2 (which managed to rip apart the existing characters one by one AND negate FFX's wonderful ending in one foul stroke).

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Originally Posted by Kostaki

I'm an old school RPG player. My opinion of FFX?

Throw it in the trash. Watching every possible malady befall the disc would be more worth the price of paying for the game than actually playing the game itself.

Any variation of the word "trash" applies. Quite literally, it is garbage.

When you are told at the beginning of the game that "FIRE MAGIC WORKS ON ICE FIENDS" you feel an overwhelming punch in the gut, almost insulting to the point of death. The sphere grid was the most ridiculous piece of work I've ever seen. The "battle system" was flawed to the point where no battle could be lost (AEON SACRIFICE FTL) at all, without even going through and mentioning the shitty tag system. English VA sucked. The story was bland and forgettable, much like the cast of the game. The mini-games were shitty. There is one good thing I will say about the game though.

It brought about FFX-2, which is what the first game should have just been to begin with. That is all.

That last sentance.... amazing. I know zero about FFX-2. I know a bunch of things about X, at least. But knowing nothing about X-2, is it really good? Explain if you can - or if anyone else wants to.

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