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 Member 20 Level 52.53 Feb 2006 
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Battlestar Galactica New Series
Okay, first off: I didn't watch the original BSG, so I can't take part in the heavy "which is better" discussion. But feel free to hold this discussion here!
Well, I kinda like this series, the characters are pretty good, the story is awesome and the effects are astounding. The only downside would be the cameramen's parkinson, but oh well, I guess you get used to that after a few episodes. The soundtrack isn't too good, either  Spoiler:
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Member 389 Level 49.28 Mar 2006
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I do not like Battlestar Galactica.
As I've expressed before, I find it wholly generic. Look at the discussions in the show -- ooh, big explosions, sex robots, etc. These things alone are not entirely bad, but Battlestar Galactica has also somehow managed to convince masses of fandom that incredibly generic things it does are somehow brilliant. That alone bugs me. If it were the most entertaining show in the universe - and it's not, it's a very very generic drama that's set in space - it would still have had no clever commentary whatsoever. It's ER at its worst in space. I've been thinking about all this lately, and it's begun to crystalize in my mind that modern mass media science fiction is very, very selfish. It's my generation wanting something fast and cheap. Think about it -- when we were kids, why did we get into science fiction? Because there were shows like ST:TNG or movies like Star Wars that we could enjoy on our level while our parents loved them on another. Now we've grown up, we're in charge and what do we want? Sex, violence and language thrown in our face as quickly as possible to remind us we're *adults* now! That, plus continuity - we want as much continuity as possible. If our modern shows aren't making us feal special for having watched them and read their novels and such then to heck with them! Look at Enterprise, look at the new Star Wars movies. We like to stroke our little beards and damn them for X, Y or Z reason... which are valid only in so far as the same vauge criticisms can be applied to any genre production ever ('plot', 'character development', etc.). In reality, the reason we damned them was because they're not the giant expanded continuity blob we made up for ourselves. No Romulans?! No Z-95 Headhunters? Well, after 25 years I suddenly care about dramatic concerns...! We took over the game and we're running it into the ground. There's no next generation od kids playing with Battlestar Galactica action figures and dreaming about being Viper pilots... because Battlestar Galactica is a stupid useless make-you-feel-good-for-doing-nothing production that's symbolic of everything that's wrong with us. Battlestar Galactica is about as subtle as a tonne of bricks... even in a literal sense, the characters are by no means the "complex" objects marketing would like you to insist to everyone -- Captain Adama and Girl President always make up eventually, tough woman fighter pilot and pretty boy fighter pilot will always be the heroes in the end, evil drunk XO never will be (unless they decide to kill him, when he'll go out in an equally generic blaze of glory that makes us all *think*!). Battlestar Galactica deals with 'issues' (nay: the human condition! that sound intellectual in its vaugness!) in excatly the same manner as does an afternoon soap opera or an hour of 90210. The difference is that 90210 is lots of easy fun and you don't have to deal with insufferable 90210 fans insisting that the show is carefully crafting a brilliant symbol with its treatment of Dylan's father issues. Robots having sex, robots having abortions, robots arguing about religion are not clever issues and the discussion adds nothing to any of these topics - they're the same cheap, easy, common issues that every sagging drama in the universe brings out for sweeps. But here they're *in space*, so they're brilliant and subtle and clever! There's nowhere I can't reach. 
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Member 20 Level 52.53 Feb 2006
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Also, why is Starbuck a girl now?? O_O This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Member 389 Level 49.28 Mar 2006
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I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?
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Syklis Green
Member 145 Level 6.89 Mar 2006
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As far as Starbuck being a girl, whatever, I don't really care about that either way- as long as she and Lee don't hook up or anything. How ya doing, buddy? |
Member 20 Level 52.53 Feb 2006
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What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
Member 125 Level 45.62 Mar 2006
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Battlestar Galactica is one of the few shows on TV that I still bother to watch consistently. Aside from some of the recent episodes like the whole Scar thing that really went nowhere and added nothing to the plot, it's a pretty good SciFi series. From what little I've seen of the original series, this new one is worlds above that. My only hope is that if they ever find Earth it will not be a repeat of "Galactica 1980" and Boxy is never introduced into the crew. Ever. FELIPE NO |
Member 84 Level 36.59 Mar 2006
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The camera shaking I can deal with, it's the godforsaken uber-zoom in/zoom out that they pull every time they show an outside show of the galactica or some vipers.
The series is fine, though there's plenty to trash if you're so inclined. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?  The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even. |
Member 66 Level 29.37 Mar 2006
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Hey, this is one of my favorite shows right now and I have to strongly disagree with LeHah, because the "new" Battlestar Galactica is anything but generic. It's actually a very unique sci fi experience with just about the right mix of action, characters and in-depth story.
Sure, some scenes might come across as cheesy, but if you've followed the show from it's awesome, three hour (!) pilot movie all the way to the very finale of the second season, you grow attached to the characters and notice the subtleties involved in their decisions and trains of thoughts. My favorite character is XO Tigh. That flashback episode with him and Adama was so well-down and funny. I also grew used to the shaky and zoomy camera and I think it looks awesome for the space-shots. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Member 20 Level 52.53 Feb 2006
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There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Member 66 Level 29.37 Mar 2006
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Actually, I don't see him being an asshole in recent episodes. He's pretty much a failure at life and he sort of knows this, making him the disgruntled negro errr... XO he is.
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Member 389 Level 49.28 Mar 2006
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You're just fucking stupid is all. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?
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Member 31 Level 20.43 Mar 2006
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I thought Season 1, including the miniseries, was excellent television. But as season 2 started to go off track more, and no season 1 questions were ever answered, I now find myself missing the Star Trek series (productions of new eps)... I was speaking idiomatically. 
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Syklis Green
Member 145 Level 6.89 Mar 2006
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The last few episodes did seem like fillers, cept the Captain’s Hand, loved that. Totally agree with the worlds above comment- this image really puts the 'oh we're all screwed' mentality to the show. I didn’t even relize it but new episode tonight- man, new Battlestar, new Boondocks, new Samurai- Fridays are great- but that will end soon- season finales, season endings. Most amazing jew boots |
Member 105 Level 8.35 Mar 2006
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I'm a follower of the old show and was skeptical when they did the remake, but I have to say I am a total convert to the new series. I this show! It's pretty much got what I look for: action, hot women, humor, explosions, good story, and..uh..hot women. Not to mention its one of the only shows that can blindside me with a plot development. WOO SciFriday tonight!
FELIPE NO   SO SAY WE ALL |
Member 1361 Level 6.27 Mar 2006
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True that Xerxes! Some fools just overanalyze everything, takes the sheer joy out of watching imho.
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Member 311 Level 20.17 Mar 2006
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As much as I enjoy most sci-fi series, BSG has somehow managed to be quite boring for me. Maybe the story doesn't appeal to me, or maybe I dislike the army type people with cactus up their ass (thank mandatory Finnish army for that ^^).
Other than those, the serie has been the image of mediocrity after seeing 6-7 eps. Hope it gets better~ Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Member 389 Level 49.28 Mar 2006
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by Ron Moore PROLOGUE EXT. POORLY CGI'D SPACE STATION (Note: Since actually showing anything remotely interesting on-screen is anathema to this production, all background information will be provided via onscreen text. No, really.} Text: MANKIND INVENTED CYLONS. BUT CYLONS WERE EVIL AND BAD. THEN THERE WAS A WAR. LATER, THE CYLONS WENT AWAY AND EVERYONE FORGOT ABOUT THEM. A POORLY CGI'D SPACE STATION WAS SET UP TO MONITOR THE PEACE, BECAUSE ACTUALLY CHECKING ON THE EVIL WAR ROBOTS PROGRAMMED TO KILL US SEEMS LIKE TOO MUCH WORK. ALSO, IF THE CYLONS BLOW UP THE POORLY CGI'D SPACE STATION SET UP TO MONITOR THE PEACE, NO ONE WILL CARE AND THEY WILL STILL ACHIEVE A COMPLETE SURPRISE ATTACK. INT. POORLY CGI'D SPACE STATION ADMIRAL MOTTI As a Battlestar Galactica fan, I sure love my folder of blueprints! Also, look at this picture of my kids! That humanizes me! Enter SOME CYLONS ADMIRAL MOTTI I'm not especially interested in SOME CYLONS. Enter A GIRL CYLON ADMIRAL MOTTI A GIRL CYLON! Lets have sex! GIRL CYLON Okay, because that makes sense. Also, we're blowing up the space station now. We just came over to the space station that we're in the process of blowing up to let you know that it's being blown up. And for some sex. During the blowing up. EXT. POORLY CGI'D SPACE STATION The POORLY CGI'D SPACE STATION *BLOWS UP*! SCENE TWO INT. BATTLESTAR GALACTICA HALLWAY TOUR GUIDE Originally, Battlestar Galactica was a midly entertaining ripoff of Star Wars, but now... TOUGH GIRL PILOT Make room! I'm a tough girl pilot! Take note of this! FAT MEXICAN CAPTAIN I hate technology, because of the Cylons are going to use it to destroy the world! I blame myself for my son dying! The president has breast cancer! SCENE THREE INT. BATTLESTAR GALACTICA POKER ROOM TOUGH GIRL PILOT (Smoking a *CIGAR*! Because she's *TOUGH*!) Poker? I just met her! ANDROGYNOUS PILOT Hah hah hah hah. OTHER GIRL PILOT I guess that's why they call you WHAT YOUR NAME IS. TOUGH GIRL PILOT And your skill for exposition is why they call you WHAT YOUR NAME IS. ANDROGYNOUS PILOT Hah hah hah hah. TOUGH GIRL PILOT All I did was sit in Lt. Cmdr. Chen's fighter! HUNTER She's a *PILGRIM*! You're under arrest! SCENE FOUR Text: "CAPRICORN ONE / CAPRICORN CITY / PLANET CAPRICORN / CAPRICORN SYSTEM / CAPRICORN GALAXY" GIRL CYLON I guess I didn't blow up afterall. Now I can have sex with Baltar. BALTAR Yay! Here are the command codes. GIRL CYLON But do you *love* me? BALTAR Sure. GIRL CYLON Hah hah, you love a robot. BALTAR Now, for a sexy, mature pun. GIRL CYLON I'm *HOT*! (GIRL CYLON GLOWS GLOWS RED HOT) SCENE FIVE EXT. CAPRICORN ONE MARKET GIRL CYLON We're going to destroy this entire planet with nuclear weapons! But people won't know I'm evil unless... {ENTER - A BABY} GIRL CYLON ... I kill A BABY! (GIRL CYLON kills A BABY) SCENE SIX INT. BATTLESTAR GALACTICA BRIDGE FAT MEXICAN CAPTAIN (giving a speech) A lot of people have died on Battlestar Galactica, daggit. But the most important casuality... was my sons love for his father! I'm sorry, ENTIRELY NON MEXICAN SON, that I let you down in a matter entirely unrelated to the important decomissioning speech I'm giving! MISTER OBUTU Sir, Cylons are attacking the fleet! There's a huge battle going on! Thirty Battlestars have been destroyed! FAT MEXICAN CAPTAIN That sounds interesting! Can we see it? MISTER OBUTU No. THE END There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Member 668 Level 20.50 Mar 2006
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You're such a racist, Lehah.
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Member 488 Level 23.98 Mar 2006
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First of all - LeHah, obviously you've seen the wrong show - it's not SUPER NEON BATTLESTAR GALACTICA, it's just Battlestar Galactica - that's probably why you hate it so much, I can understand with a script like that how it would make an awful show.
As for Battlestar Galactica, I love the show - it's been awhile since I've felt anger towards TV characters, and I'm not angry because they're acting poorly, but they fit thier characters perfectly (Tigh's wife is usually the focus of my hatred btw - followed by Tigh for always listening to is wife). I never did see the original series, but it's something that I plan on doing eventually. I've followed this season since it started showing on Space while I was still in residence (like three years ago). Sometimes it gets a tad cheesy with all the religious connections - but if you're able to see past that, it's an awesome show  I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
Member 629 Level 46.64 Mar 2006
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LeHah, that gave me the first good laugh I've had in a week ;D If I had a cookie, I'd send you it. Believe me.
I was speaking idiomatically.
Hey, maybe you should try that thing Chie was talking about.
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Member 389 Level 49.28 Mar 2006
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sarcasm What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Member 31 Level 20.43 Mar 2006
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You just don't understand the show. Where else are you going to find a nuked planet with minimal survivors running for their lives? And how the characters act is a lot more consistent with what we'd see in real life compared to how characters act in Star Trek shows. Not everyone should just be happy-go-lucky all the time. Plenty of characters are conflicted. You go back to your comfortable TNG for the rest of your life, then, I don't give a shit. (TNG still rules in any case, but at least I watch other shows). FELIPE NO
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Member 18 Level 51.14 Feb 2006
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I love watching shows where I have no idea what the fuck is going on, and maybe Starbuck is a Cylon, or that Asian chick is and she has false memories and this Cylon worships God, or doesn't? Also there's Bryant.
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
Member 389 Level 49.28 Mar 2006
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There is nothing that is stated in Battlestar Galactica that is new or fresh or revolutionary. Everything in sci-fi has been done before by much better writers for the last century.
You thought this was the best way to make your point? No one can look at that mess and take it seriously. You're no martyr, you're just a dumbass. Look, you've been sold a cheap, thinly veiled peice of shit. Look at the original Star Trek's Vietnam episode... it's probably the most fair, most subtle mass media critique of the war... Battlestar Galactica isn't cutting a new path, it's stepping where everyone else has been while yelling that it's special at the top of its lungs. Battlestar Galactica: Edgily tackling the most difficult religious issue: Greco-Roman Pantheon versus Judeochristian God! Take that, 23 AD! Jam it back in, in the dark.
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