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My brother got mugged last night...
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Old Oct 3, 2006, 11:26 PM Local time: Oct 3, 2006, 11:26 PM #1 of 16
My brother got mugged last night...

I didn't get much face to face contact with him till tonight (left for school early and then was doing other things), but he probably didn't want to talk about it right away with me anyway.

Anyway, he was done doing a pizza delivery, and as he was going back to his car, two hispanic guys (he said they were about 16-17 years old) stopped him, and one guy pointed a gun to his head. The other guy meanwhile searched his pockets for anything of value, and took his cell phone (a crappy one luckily) and the $90 in tips he had made that night. Then they took his car keys, but they gave it back to him, after the guy searching him cheap-shotted him with a punch to the face (probably to keep him reeling while they made their getaway).

He then went back to his workplace, and called the cops, who then arrived (and he told me like 3 other squad cars were in the vicinity where he got mugged, since this was an armed robbery), and began to get info from my brother.

While my brother was in the cop's squad car, he heard over the radio that another armed robbery took place. The description he heard was very similar to what he told the cops, except the crime took place about 10 blocks away from where he got mugged (the thugs seemed to be on foot), and there were 3 guys there (one more than who mugged my brother, unless the third guy was hiding to shoot my brother in case he resisted).

Anyway, my brother only lost the $90 and his cell phone. Luckily the thugs didn't take his car (which has a standard drive, guess they didn't want a stick-shift car), and didn't hurt him (other than the sucker punch), which would've made things worse. But man, crap like this happening is why I refused to be a delivery driver (we live close to a "ghetto" area, although the actual neighborhood we're in isn't as bad as where he got mugged).

To make some discussion, have you ever been mugged, or known someone who has? What did you do, or what did they do in their situation? I'm just curious because I've never been mugged before thankfully (but I did get beat up by like 4 older kids once in the 4th grade while waiting at my bus stop, who apparently beat me up for the fun of it. If I had my way back then, I would've just nuked the entire neighborhood, screw collateral damage. And no, I'm not joking about that either. Thankfully Jesus beat that crap out of me ). It's one thing to just hear this stuff on the news, but it's another to actually have been in that situation.

My brother claims that if the thugs didn't have a gun, he would've gotten into his car after they left, then ran them over. I don't think he would've did that, but I can relate to him, being powerless in a situation like that, and not being able to do anything (without getting hurt or killed).

I think if I ever become rich, I'm going to invest in Terminator-style robots. Then we can have them patrol the borders endlessly, and relentlessly hunt down crooks. The more I hear about crime, the more I feel that doing something like that is justified (you can bet they will have robots with lethal force programmed into them someday, cause it puts the cops at less risk, and if the robot loses an arm or leg, it's an easy fix, unlike on a human, at least till they improve on cybernetics).

Sorry for going a little weird at the end, but it does make me wonder what would drive people to do these things, which I'm trying to learn in my History of Poverty in America class. While crime has always been around, I wonder what factors drive people to do what they do. Is it power, for the sheer fun of it, or because they feel trapped in a situation in which they can't escape, and therefore vent their frustrations out at others (probably what those idiots who shot people in those schools lately went through).

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Old Oct 4, 2006, 12:04 AM Local time: Oct 4, 2006, 12:04 AM #2 of 16
Wow. That is awful to hear.

No, luckily, I have never been mugged. I know of someone who did, but when it happened, a police car was near, and the mugger whimped out. He was pretty spooked about it however.

You just can't control some people, they can do terrible things to people and get away with it.

I am glad to hear your brother wasn't harmed. People can replace things, but not lives.

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Old Oct 4, 2006, 12:10 AM Local time: Oct 3, 2006, 10:10 PM #3 of 16
Originally Posted by Fatt
It's been over two months, you fail.

As for getting mugged, I've never been mugged, but I always like to carry a weapon just in case. Mostly just a knife, but I've though about getting a gun, but you have to get a permit to carry a concealed gun. Maybe it would help, maybe it wouldn't, but I like the little piece of mind it gives me, maybe until the real shit hits the fan.

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Old Oct 4, 2006, 12:20 AM #4 of 16
In February, two years ago, I was coming home from hanging out with some friends, and I stood near a pillar on the train platform where my Sidekick II got service so that I could call my grandmother. Its a fairly ghetto area but it was about 6pm at night, so there weren't many kids around. However a few kids came up to me excited about my phone. I knew it was trouble but I didn't quite know what to do. A big one came from behind the crowd and snatched it, and they all just started casually walking and doing what idiot black teenagers do when they take something: Act like they didn't. So being the dumbass I am, I tried to be polite, and I kept following them until a train came. I followed them onto the train, despite it not being mine. Went through the cars with them a bit until the next stop came. I was about to follow them into a pretty unlively station when someone stopped me, saying it wasn't worth it. The value to me wasn't in the phone, but rather how much my family went through to get it for me.

Anyway, I'm a techie. Sidekick IIs have a Web Interface where everything on the phone is accessible via a web portal. The dumbass took pictures of themselves, about 4 different people in them (out of 6-8?). They also called three of their friends and their grandmother's house. Seeing as how my dad and I did most of the detective work for the police, they really didn't have to do much but match phone numbers with addresses and adresses with names. Police don't do much if they have to do the work, we know that. So they were able to prosecute only one of the guys, because he took the phone and I kind of volunteered it up to the other kids beforehand, so nothing could legally happen to them. I don't think he got served any time, though.

Either way, I got a new phone of the same model, broke that one, and have an even better phone now. That one had a particularly nasty scratch on the screen, so I kind of wanted to get rid of it anyway.

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Old Oct 5, 2006, 09:52 AM #5 of 16
I've never been mugged in direct contact. I've been robbed when I was alseep though. Some punks stole from my car a tennis racket and some change a long time ago. I hate it when I forget to lock the car doors.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Oct 5, 2006, 11:49 AM #6 of 16
I've had a couple friends get mugged.

One was a friend from college. She usually walked home from school, at night, which isn't recommended to do by yourself. Needless to say, someone did mug her and steal her purse. She was too afraid to go home, since they had her keys and her address. There really wasn't much that my other friends and I could do, besides tell her to call us in the future if she was going home at night; we'd have no problems with giving her a ride home.

An online friend of mine almost got mugged, but then she was living in L.A. at the time. She was out with her mom when a guy came up and demanded her mom's purse. Luckily a car came by and scared the guy off. Still, scary stuff. I can't remember if he had a gun or not, but I did draw a picture for her of a couple of her favorite anime characters beating the guy up. =)

As for robbing, one of my old roommates had someone break into her car and steal an expensive camera that she was borrowing from someone else for a class. That sucked a lot too.

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Old Oct 5, 2006, 08:35 PM #7 of 16
I actually know muggers and muggees. Well, one of each. My brother and two friends of his were mugged, I believe at gunpoint, I can't recall. He had about 100 bucks on him (he was on a trip with his friends), not sure what his friends had. I think they were caught, which is good.

My cousin, though, mugged some guy. Well, he and five friends mugged a pizza guy.
So they could go to Disney World.
...Yes. Six people mugged one pizza guy to fund a trip to Disney World. On the up side, he was caught. On the downside, he was sentanced to house arrest at my house. I am glad I was in New York with friends when this happened, or I would have had to slap some sense into that boy.

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Old Oct 5, 2006, 08:43 PM #8 of 16
My mother was mugged about 4 months ago. A friend of hers and herself were going to an art exhibit and a crackhead ran up to them as they were getting out of the car and attempted to get in the car. My mom tried to fight him off, and in the scuffle he grabbed her digital camera bag (she thinks he thought it was her purse) and ran off.

They filed a police report, but nothing ever came of it. I was actually supposed to go with them that night, but I had to work late. I would of made sure he didnt get in the car.

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Old Oct 9, 2006, 05:14 AM #9 of 16
That's crazy. I have been robbed a couple times, but never anything like that. Good to hear that he wasn't seriously hurt though.

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Old Oct 11, 2006, 05:30 AM Local time: Oct 11, 2006, 10:30 AM #10 of 16
I was mugged twice in the same place within a week of each one. I was on my way to work at my local Electronics Boutique and have to walk through a massive park. Mid morning and the sun is out, and I enter this long thin tunnel connecting the park to the playing fields. Some guy was walking about 2 steps behind me and once we hit the middle of the tunnel, he pulled me up by jacket lapels and asked very politely for my wallet. I thrashed about and ran, he got nothing.

1 week later - Same guy, same deal, he had a knife this time but i was at the correct height to knee him in the dangle downs and he reeled, and I ran. Ever since the second time, the police decided to put cameras up in the tunnel. I made a difference! yay!

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Old Oct 11, 2006, 07:09 AM Local time: Oct 11, 2006, 06:09 AM #11 of 16
I havent been mugged, but my nephew has.

Shortly after I returned from Newark to visit my brother after the birth of his daughter, he called to tell me that my nephew was walking hom late one night from his friends house, came home a bloodied mess and passed out on the floor.

It seems these cats jumped him in the park. My nephew tried to walk away and was attacked. When they realized he didnt have any money, thats when one of them grabbed for a brick and at that point my family's "fight" gene kicked in and he went into overload. My somewhat scrawny nephew managed to fight off 4 guys and escape alive but my brother (who is a firefighter) was NOTICEABLY pissed off and from that point on it was a big mess. When he called me I could tell he was in a pretty big rage and was trying to calm down. At any rate, considering the danger he was in my neph got off fairly well - just really banged, bruised, and scared by the incident.

They just moved to that neighborhood but my bro knows how to manuever through there enough to know how to deal with it. He's looking to get away from there ASAP though. Just a matter of time once the baby gets a bit older...

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Old Oct 19, 2006, 02:59 PM #12 of 16
Originally Posted by GRUN-4
In February, two years ago, I was coming home from hanging out with some friends, and I stood near a pillar on the train platform where my Sidekick II got service so that I could call my grandmother. Its a fairly ghetto area but it was about 6pm at night, so there weren't many kids around. However a few kids came up to me excited about my phone. I knew it was trouble but I didn't quite know what to do. A big one came from behind the crowd and snatched it, and they all just started casually walking and doing what idiot black teenagers do when they take something: Act like they didn't. So being the dumbass I am, I tried to be polite, and I kept following them until a train came. I followed them onto the train, despite it not being mine. Went through the cars with them a bit until the next stop came. I was about to follow them into a pretty unlively station when someone stopped me, saying it wasn't worth it. The value to me wasn't in the phone, but rather how much my family went through to get it for me.

Anyway, I'm a techie. Sidekick IIs have a Web Interface where everything on the phone is accessible via a web portal. The dumbass took pictures of themselves, about 4 different people in them (out of 6-8?). They also called three of their friends and their grandmother's house. Seeing as how my dad and I did most of the detective work for the police, they really didn't have to do much but match phone numbers with addresses and adresses with names. Police don't do much if they have to do the work, we know that. So they were able to prosecute only one of the guys, because he took the phone and I kind of volunteered it up to the other kids beforehand, so nothing could legally happen to them. I don't think he got served any time, though.

Either way, I got a new phone of the same model, broke that one, and have an even better phone now. That one had a particularly nasty scratch on the screen, so I kind of wanted to get rid of it anyway.

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That's hilarious that you used the web interface option to pin it on them

I have a cousin who tried to run away from basic training lol. He somehow managed to get out into the town where the idiot began asking for rides in the general direction of home, he managed to ask the wrong people who beat THE SHIT out of him and then apparently took some money out of his wallet. Serves him right the idiot, idk what he was thinking joining the military in the first place, but to run away from it after joining?

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Old Oct 19, 2006, 03:17 PM #13 of 16
Living in Philly it is hard to find someone who hasn't been mugged. I have had a few attempted muggings. None at gun point though, but at weapon point. Mostly bats. Only one of the time they got away with something. I didn't end up getting hurt in any of them.

I know quite a few people who have been mugged too.

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Old Oct 19, 2006, 03:24 PM Local time: Oct 19, 2006, 09:24 PM #14 of 16
I've never been mugged. I only even know one guy who has actually been mugged. I guess my town is a pretty quiet place. There's some crime, but not enough that it's affected me a whole lot in my time here.

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Old Oct 19, 2006, 04:26 PM #15 of 16
My friend was mugged of a PS2 he was carrying across in a backpack by a group of asians (part of a gang called Oriental Troop) carrying a 12-guage sawed-off shotgun. With that gang's reputation, they're lucky they weren't shot.

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