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Old Aug 24, 2006, 02:01 AM Local time: Aug 24, 2006, 12:01 AM #1 of 9
Piss on AM2

AM2 is plagued by the retarded issue of not being compatible with RAM that has a voltage of higher than 1.9V.

I'm trying to build a cheap 3800+X2 AM2 system to use while I save up for Conroe. (I'll sell this AMD system later.) I have everything picked out except for a motherboard. I plan on using this RAM: http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...Z%20Technology

That RAM will be fine for my Conroe system, but will refuse to work in like 95% of the new AM2 boards. Or will either need to be clocked down to 533MHz.

Is there any DECENT motherboard made by a reputable company that will work the way it's supposed to? I've looked at online stores all day and my eyes frickin hurt. :/ [edit] any board that ISN'T $150+

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old Aug 24, 2006, 12:46 PM #2 of 9
you can probably set the voltage in the motherboard's BIOS to 2.0V or above.

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Old Aug 24, 2006, 03:10 PM Local time: Aug 24, 2006, 01:10 PM #3 of 9
Originally Posted by RushJet1
you can probably set the voltage in the motherboard's BIOS to 2.0V or above.
Unfortuantely, that's not possible. You have to buy a board that supports VDIMM above 2.0V or else your RAM runs at 667MHz (unstable) or 533MHz (stable).

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Old Aug 24, 2006, 03:16 PM Local time: Aug 24, 2006, 02:16 PM #4 of 9
Wish I could help render, but RAM timing stuff is not a specialty of mine. GL and hope it doesn't break the bank!!

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Old Aug 24, 2006, 03:29 PM #5 of 9
Stuck with a socket 939 X2 3800+ system my dad bought near the beginning of this year. Don't have to worry about DDR2 RAM yet.

I wish you luck, but you know.. you could just build a socket 939 system since AM2 offers few advantages so far.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Aug 24, 2006, 04:39 PM Local time: Aug 24, 2006, 02:39 PM #6 of 9
Originally Posted by neothe0ne
Stuck with a socket 939 X2 3800+ system my dad bought near the beginning of this year. Don't have to worry about DDR2 RAM yet.

I wish you luck, but you know.. you could just build a socket 939 system since AM2 offers few advantages so far.
S939 is dead. The only reason I didn't choose S939 was the fact it only runs DDR and not DDR2. The RAM I linked to above is the stuff that's dirt cheap and is what will work with any Conroe/Kentsfield down the road.

Although, good news. The ASUS M2N-E released a BIOS update which fixes memory support for 2.1Volt memory which most DDR2-800 is.

Between that board and the 3800+X2, that will cost me $195 + $114 = $309CAD. Not bad in my book. Too bad that 256MB X1900XT couldn't be released sooner. :/

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Old Aug 24, 2006, 05:01 PM Local time: Aug 24, 2006, 04:01 PM #7 of 9
Let us know when you order and how the build goes!

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Old Aug 24, 2006, 05:11 PM #8 of 9
Originally Posted by Render
AM2 is plagued by the retarded issue of not being compatible with RAM that has a voltage of higher than 1.9V.
The processor socket itself has nothing to do with the memory voltages, so there should be no problems regarding compatibility with high-voltage RAM. In all case, what happens is that the motherboards you've seen are not designed for overclockers. Have you seen the higher-end boards?

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Old Aug 24, 2006, 05:37 PM Local time: Aug 24, 2006, 03:37 PM #9 of 9
Originally Posted by x86
The processor socket itself has nothing to do with the memory voltages, so there should be no problems regarding compatibility with high-voltage RAM. In all case, what happens is that the motherboards you've seen are not designed for overclockers. Have you seen the higher-end boards?
Yes, I have, and I'm not willing to pay the extra $60-100 for them. I don't even plan to OC much, if, at all. AM2 boards are designed to handle DDR2-800, and the X2 dual cores are able to utilize that power. Also, as I mentioned above, the RAM will be used in my Conroe system once the ridiculous prices start to fall.

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