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Gunslinger Girl: Il Teatrino (sloppy sequel)
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Old Jan 15, 2008, 01:19 AM Local time: Jan 14, 2008, 11:19 PM 1 #1 of 10
Gunslinger Girl: Il Teatrino (sloppy sequel)


Synopsis: Time has passed between the end of the first season and the start of the second one and Italy has become more restless with each passing day. There have been growing protests in Rome and the Social Welfare Agency has been on active alert in order to ensure that the growing discontent does not get taken advantage of by the number of separatist movements and bring Italy into the throes of a civil war. The Social Welfare Agency, a secret government counter-terrorism force has been experimenting around with cyborg girls who are conditioned to serve as loyal special forces units and so far, the experiment has been quite successful. However, the separatist movements have been increasing their resistance, and along with that comes a single individual who may prove to be the most difficult opponent that the Agency has come across.



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The first season brought with it some high expectations as it was able to tell a complete story and filled it with sympathetic characters, great animation, and a brilliant soundtrack scored by Toshihiko Sahashi. This second season on the other hand seems quite soulless in comparison. Without anything else to go off of, I can only say that Artland managed to take Madhouse's brilliant adaptation of Yu Aida's manga and do it a grave disservice.

Starting from the beginning, I had already had my reservations, especially with how most of the voice actors did not portray their characters accurately. Or maybe it was the scriptwriting that was poor. Regardless, they felt the need to have Rico and Henrietta make cute-sounding noises every so often. Why? I have no damn clue myself. Maybe it was to fill in the silence or something. However, that detracted just slightly from the series, but enough to make it an annoyance. A graver matter was how Triela and Rico's personalities were way off the mark. Both the two were made to be very happy-go-lucky in such a way that they didn't seem real or genuine. Triela, for her part, seemed too happy when out with Hillshire when their relationship in reality is more strained. Triela herself was the most serious-minded girl of the group, but it certainly didn't seem that way from watching this. Rico also seemed a bit too outgoing and happy. Something about her just really got on my nerves and made me want to give her a good sock to the jaw to bring her back to her senses.

The sound direction was also a travesty. Early on in episode 1, there's a scene involving some protests in Rome... except the protesters didn't sound like protesters. Unless the protesters you see are weird and grunted instead of actually shouting slogans or anything of substance. This seemed like a really cheap shortcut and a half-assed way to go about doing this. If they're resorting to grunting, I can only imagine how they could take shortcuts elsewhere too.

Along with the crappy sound direction is the music, which, while listenable and decent, just doesn't mesh as well as it could. Another protest scene called for some tense sounding music, and the composer delivered unto us some electronica with a heavy beat to it. Given how the first season had a majestic soundtrack to it, season 2 just seems lame in comparison. Whatever happened to the awesomeness of the TEMA tracks anyhow? Yeah, what we have here is a definite downgrade in the music department.

OK, so we have to accept that the characters and the sound direction is terrible. Well, to add to that blow is the crappy animation which, like the sound direction, saw the animators take quite a few shortcuts. Seeing the poor treatment of Henrietta's P90 was already pretty bad, but looking at the scene where you can see Jan's bullet hit one of the terrorist in the legs (LOL BULLET TIME??) and the splotchy paint that they put over Triela's clothing in place of blood was absolutely inexcusable. And to top it off, they had Triela snipe with a shotgun. WTF??? I'm certainly no gun expert, but if I can catch all of those details, something is obviously very wrong with the show. ARGH!!!


All right, the criticisms above can easily be considered nitpicky and to be perfectly honest, this series isn't omfg downright terrible or anything of the sort. The story (if they follow it faithfully) is quite good and if anything, they have a very strong plot to work off of. Unfortunately, that's really all that still remains intact after that trashy excuse for a first episode. Artland better bring the momentum up or heads are going to roll.

Fans of the first season should avoid watching this if they don't like an awesome series ruined by a half-assed effort.

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Old Jan 15, 2008, 07:53 PM Local time: Jan 16, 2008, 01:53 AM #2 of 10
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All right, the criticisms above can easily be considered nitpicky and to be perfectly honest, this series isn't omfg downright terrible or anything of the sort.
Your not nitpicky, I agree with you all the way and I think its going down like a waterfall.

Season 2 doesnt give me that killer vibe like in season 1. They should tone down the MOE level....


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Old Jan 15, 2008, 08:31 PM #3 of 10
Holy crap, being a big Gunslinger Girl fan, I don't know how I missed this... I saw the logo on an airsoft site, but I thought it was just promoting the firearms they used in the show.

Well, I'm off to download this now, will be back with impressions :3

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Jan 15, 2008, 08:35 PM #4 of 10
I can't really bash this by just one episode. Still, I hate the way they designed the girls. I guess nowadays, many animation studios need to go through this transition (for the kids =/ ). At least Madhouse stills keeps that old mainstream going.

And anyway, I agree with your opinion. As a fan of the series, I'll let the bs slide and continue on watching. I only wish Toshihiko composed more music for this season and not Kou Otani.

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Old Jan 15, 2008, 09:44 PM #5 of 10
Ugh, here's my impressions:

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Overall, I'm pretty disappointed. I'm comparing this to the first season though, so it may be unfair in that respect.

I feel as if the 2nd season has lost the melancholy feeling it once had in the first. It seems lightened up in this one. All the girls seem well.... more girly and slightly less believable (did Henrietta honestly have to giggle that many times when she was in Joses room?). Jose seems like he's more social now too, from the interaction between him and Henrietta we witness. When they did try to portray some form of seriousness (Henrietta getting angry that Jose was hurt and almost pulling the trigger, and Triela covered in blood as she turns around after shooting that guy) it came off as melodramatic, and wasn't very effective on me at all.

I'm very disheartened with where they headed with the art direction and music though. Everyone seems so much younger now.. and the music... well, it doesn't captivate me anymore like it once did, seems very generic. I do like the ending theme though :3.

All in all, I feel as if the series has been catered to a more mainstream audience and that it has been lightened up a significant amount. Hard to judge from one episode, but it's a bad first impression for me. I will continue watching though, just to see where this goes.

Ah, one thing I did like though, was the attention to firearm mechanics. The close up of Triela chambering her trademark trench gun was nice. Though, whenever someone went to ready their firearm, I felt as if the entire scene froze just so we would notice that one movement haha. I understand they're trying to please us firearm junkies, but they don't have to make their point so blatant.


EDIT: The OP was a complete pain to watch and a true eye sore.


Ah, to answer your shotgun issue though zzeroparticle, the choke on the end of a shotgun barrel can be modified. Choke is basically narrowing down the end of the barrel like a funnel, so the more evident the choke, the greater range you have. So Triela could have indeed shot those dudes in the car from that distance :3. I can't tell you the distance increments on different chokes though since I don't remember them off hand haha.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Jan 16, 2008, 09:08 PM Local time: Jan 16, 2008, 07:08 PM #6 of 10
At the risk of sounding too nerdy:

Ah, to answer your shotgun issue though zzeroparticle, the choke on the end of a shotgun barrel can be modified. Choke is basically narrowing down the end of the barrel like a funnel, so the more evident the choke, the greater range you have. So Triela could have indeed shot those dudes in the car from that distance :3. I can't tell you the distance increments on different chokes though since I don't remember them off hand haha.
OK, I'll defer to your expertise on this one and accept that. What I'm also curious about (since you seem to be a ballistics expert) is whether the whole scene where

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the bullet goes through and leaves that guy with that nosebleed is accurate and representative of the particular firearm that Triela was using? I'm not saying it's fake, but it sure looked that way.


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Old Jan 16, 2008, 10:07 PM #7 of 10
At the risk of sounding too nerdy:



OK, I'll defer to your expertise on this one and accept that. What I'm also curious about (since you seem to be a ballistics expert) is whether the whole scene where

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the bullet goes through and leaves that guy with that nosebleed is accurate and representative of the particular firearm that Triela was using? I'm not saying it's fake, but it sure looked that way.


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That stuff I told you was pretty basic material, I had to learn about it before I got my firearms licenses, so I doubt I could be branded an expert haha.

About that scene though, to tell you the truth, I have no idea what went on there, wondered myself .

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Old Mar 15, 2008, 04:10 AM Local time: Mar 15, 2008, 02:10 AM #8 of 10
OK, with episode 4 out of the way, I think I can say that this series is decidedly poor and not worth anyone's time to pursue. Even if you're a hardcore GSG fan like I am.

The music still feels out of place during certain scenes and the same can be said for the girls who appear to enjoy making cutesy noises too much for my liking. Furthermore, there's just this sort of emotional disconnect from the characters and the narrative that made the first season and the manga so damn good. All in all, it's ironic that the production of an anime that involves the manga artist is flailing much worse than the first season which was done without the manga artist's involvement.

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Old Apr 16, 2008, 08:55 AM #9 of 10
The series is smacked by poor art direction and music choice, because everything, down to Henrietta's childish giggling, is faithful to the manga. To a fault.

And voices don't help either. Can't help but notice everytime Henrietta speaks, the first thing that comes to mind is "LOL HAY GUYZ NANOHA HAS A GUN"

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Old Apr 16, 2008, 11:26 AM Local time: Apr 16, 2008, 09:26 AM #10 of 10
Of course, if it was actually faithful to the manga, then there'd be a lot of heart in it. As it stands, this show is the most soulless show I've seen in quite some time.

Soul Eater has more heart than this, and that's not even a show that takes itself seriously.

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