The Atomic Bomb - Hiroshima (Just really gotta get this off my chest)

Okay, you guys can lock this thread, delete it or whatever.. But honestly, I have to really get this off my chest.. And more importantly, off my mind!

It's about 12 am.. and I gotta go to sleep (Without havinga nightmare)... But I just finished watching a very graphic and informative documentary on Hiroshima.. The atomic bomb..

MY GOD man... That is just the most horrible, most in-human thing..... How the fuck could a government of ANY fucking country.. Even THINK about using such a devistating weapon.

And no one should give me that bullshit that they "didn't know the full affects of the bomb".. Because you have a team of scientists who could make a pretty well educated guess. (They guess the radius of the explosion didn't they?)

HORRIBLE.. This one story.. Of a wife who was having an early breakfast with her kids.. She had to listen to her own child being burned to death.. Her husband dieing of radiation poision.. and herself also dieing from the samething..

The bank lady.. Who was thrown in a mass grave...


You have all this talk about terrorism.. security, all this bullshit about protecting a country.. It's the united staes who did the most in-human thing..

They blew up two fucking cities.. killed millions of the innocient.. and poisioned over 2 million people of Japan...


After seeing this documentary, and pictures of people who suffred at the hands of the radiation poision... I just... I'm sick to my stomach.. I'm in just total shock.. Because this not only gave you what happend.. But how it all came together.. and you gotta think.. WHat kind of mind.. Would authorize the use of such a weapon..
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I'm sorry, I know I shouldn't be using this site as a place to speek my political, personal opinions like that.. And also use it as a tempoarary thepary to just .. Somehow come to terms with the fact.. I just.. GOD.. Why the hell would you even.... I mean ... Disgusting.


I completely understand the fact that the Japanese were killing themselves and were planning massive suicide attacks on Americans.. And I get the fact that the Americans didn't want to lose any more men in their wars.. But this.. This is an act of total cruelty..

You have all this talk about the torture of third world countries, the bad talk about drug dealers, the fight aganist terrorism... NOTHING in history (Except the fight against the nazi's) is this fucking in-human, disrespectful, disgusting and be littling to man kind...


THe most SICKSET thing is... That the Americans call this a Victory.. and acknwoeldge it as a one.. wel I say fuck that..

Good night people, and i hope I can catch some sleep without these horrid images plauging my mind..

DC

Jam it back in, in the dark.

This is a thread better suited for the Political Palace.

The atomic bomb was a terrible thing. It won us the war though. That's really all there is to it. Saying "Oh God, this is terrible, how could anyone even think of doing this!" is righteous and all, but in all honesty, it isn't going to change the past.

What's done is done. It can be cruel, but really complaining about it like this really won't change anything, so I don't see the point.

How ya doing, buddy?

First of all, this should be moved to the political palace forum.

While I understand where your rant is coming from, yes, it was a pretty devastating weapon to use, but as far as we knew, the Japanese were putting up really stiff resistance, and were pretty much willing to fight to the death.

While I wouldn't want to see the A-bomb and its effects, I certainly also wouldn't want to see street to street fighting the way the Germans and Russians fought against each other on the Eastern Front. There would've probably been more casualties if the Allies had to launch a ground invasion on Japan, and it would've been even uglier to watch/go through.

Also, the Japanese aren't entirely innocent either. They were pretty cruel during the war (Rape of Nanking comes to mind, as well as the Bataan Death March), and I'm guessing the Allies thought dropping the bombs would end the war faster and stop those kinds of atrocities from happening. The fact that Japan seems to not want to paint the entire picture in their history books and pissing off the Chinese and Koreans should be evidence of what Japan did.

Again, you have to view this from the mindset of people living during World War 2, not someone looking back in history through "2006 eyes". Of course hindsight is 20/20, but at the time, they did what they thought was the best choice overall (and if Japan still didn't surrender, you can bet the Allies would've launched a ground invasion, and not only that, the Soviets would also invade Japan, and we'd probably have a situation in Japan similiar to what's going on in the Korean penninsula right now. And we can all see what's going on there now).

Would you rather drop a devastating weapon that can kill lots of people, but bring the war to an end faster, or would you rather launch a ground invasion where the casualties would inevitably be higher (and again, uglier/bloodier)? I'm sure if you were the president of the united states at the time, you'd probably also try the nuclear bomb first, rather than send many of your own soldiers to their deaths.

In a way, it's also good that the nukes were dropped then, because being able to observe its destructiveness made it so that leaders during the Cold War were reluctant to unleash that kind of power on anyone, unless the other side did it first. Had they not of dropped it, we'd probably have nothing to look back on, and you can bet a nuke would've been dropped during the Cold War because the leaders wouldn't have anything to base the destruction on (tests can only tell you so much, to actually use it shows what kind of things it can really do).

Yes, I sound a bit harsh, but this is a touchy subject. Things have changed a lot since then, and a lot of it was the result of what happened in WW2, and while dropping the bomb probably might not have been necessary, it certainly saved more lives in the end.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I'd move this over to PP but this is more a rant than a question posed for the sake of discussion. You can copy/paste this into your journal but the thread is going to have to be closed.

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