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halori Jun 19, 2006 04:52 AM

macbook pro
 
i plan to get myself a laptop

is macbook pro a nice choice?

i have never use a mac before and i am very unfamiliar with it
but when i am browsing its official webiste http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
i feel that its a very powerful and fast laptop (after reading its description)
is it really that good?

and is mac os x easy to use and better than window (vista)?

killmoms Jun 19, 2006 10:52 AM

Warning: I AM BIASED.

I would say the MacBook Pro is a very nice laptop. However, I'll really need to know more about what you want to DO with it, exactly. What's your primary usage for a computer? If you say gaming right off the bat, you probably won't be served as well by a Mac, unless you also plan to run Windows on it also. OS X, since it isn't the dominant OS, gets a lot fewer games than Windows does, and gets them about six months after their initial release (with a few exceptions like Blizzard games, which are always developed for both platforms concurrently). Now, if you were to say that gaming wasn't a primary motivator, and you were more interested in (say) music creation or video editing or other media tasks like that, I'd recommend a Mac without hesitation.

I think OS X is an excellent operating system, and I prefer it to Windows. However, I'd also caution you to try it out first since you've never used it first. Maybe find a friend who has a newer Mac, or go to an Apple Store if there's one near you to try it out for a while. While it's similar enough to Windows that you won't be completely lost, there are many things that are different enough that it takes some getting used to. I think the best way to learn OS X is to dive right in and embrace the differences, but you might not be so flexible.

Basically, a computer isn't just its specs—you should buy a computer based on what you want to do. Especially when choosing a platform besides the norm, you need to really know a little more to make a good decision.

halori Jun 19, 2006 08:40 PM

oh thanks

thinks its basically not for gaming.
mainly for web browsing and processing some documents

i live in malaysia
and from what i knew mac is very very not popular in the small town i stay in malaysia
and hence i would not really have the chance to use it
though i did use it for a few minutes in kuala lumpur (our capital)
and and i found out that the mouse is only one key
isnt this very incovenient?

Snowknight Jun 19, 2006 08:43 PM

You could always get a mouse with the Macbook, I believe.
Traditionally, however, right clicking is done by holding the control key while clicking.

halori Jun 20, 2006 02:27 AM

o i see
and is mac os x really that virus(malware) free?

PUG1911 Jun 20, 2006 08:10 PM

Yes it is.

A Macbook Pro is very expensive though. If you aren't going to use all that power you might want to consider a cheaper model.

BlueMikey Jun 20, 2006 08:14 PM

It's not that it is any more immune than Windows, per say. It's just that the Mac userbase is so much smaller than Windows that the biggest viruses aren't going to be written for Mac OS or Mac programs.

I've always been a Windows user and I just recommended someone to get a MacBook. He didn't use gaming at all, mostly it was for downloading music, talking to friends, and processing photos off his digital camera. We didn't even go with the Pro, just a standard MacBook. For anyone not gaming, Apple is certainly becoming an incredibly attractive way to go...I'd probably get one if I didn't need Windows for programming, but being able to put Windows on Apples now...I might switch in the future.

halori Jun 20, 2006 09:34 PM

ya
been thinking of macbook oso
cos its lighter and cheaper

by the way, do u think macbook or macbook pro able to run the coming vista?
and isnt it a bit strange to see a window in mac

Little Shithead Jun 20, 2006 09:45 PM

Well, Macbooks run on an Intel graphics chipset, which right now isn't seen by Vista as an "acceptable" graphics chipset, so you'll never get Aero on it (or without hacking.) I'd say it would run just beautifully with 1GB of RAM, but you're not going to get "the full effect."

Macbook Pros, since they run with an ATI Radeon Mobility chipset will be "completely" "Vista Ready?Approved."

BlueMikey Jun 20, 2006 09:55 PM

How much HD space do you need on a Mac to comfortably have both Mac OS and Windows on it? I assume I can look it up but EXPERT HERE.

Little Shithead Jun 20, 2006 10:00 PM

You could just run Windows on a 20GB partition and you'd be settled for quite a while.

But that's just how I usually set things up when dual-booting, 20GB for the "minor" OS.

halori Jun 21, 2006 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merv Burger
Well, Macbooks run on an Intel graphics chipset, which right now isn't seen by Vista as an "acceptable" graphics chipset, so you'll never get Aero on it (or without hacking.) I'd say it would run just beautifully with 1GB of RAM, but you're not going to get "the full effect."

Macbook Pros, since they run with an ATI Radeon Mobility chipset will be "completely" "Vista Ready?Approved."

so what would u mean by full effect?

Snowknight Jun 21, 2006 08:26 AM

Aero's translucency features, along with other random features of the Aero interface, wouldn't work. In fact, Aero may refuse to run at all; I forget how Microsoft is handling that. So, either way, something not very nice.

Cyrus XIII Jun 21, 2006 10:34 AM

Then again, Mac OSX already provides all the eye candy one could possibly want, with a more sophisticated implementation. So a Windows running the basic Vista look or even Classic for the few Win-only applications should suffice.

PUG1911 Jun 21, 2006 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halori
ya
been thinking of macbook oso
cos its lighter and cheaper

by the way, do u think macbook or macbook pro able to run the coming vista?
and isnt it a bit strange to see a window in mac

The Vista beta works on Macbooks using the Intel GMA950 so I see no reason why the final release will not. Aero Glass seems to work just fine on them as well for those with a GMA 950 based machine.

Onyx Jun 22, 2006 11:29 AM

I'm not a gamer so the Macbook looks extremely attractive to me. About the only gaming I do is on ZSNES and VisualBoy Advance. And I do emulation on a super low-end Windows XP computer as it is.

I can't afford a Macbook Pro, but honestly, I'm not that excited about Vista. The Macbook sounds good enough for me. I refuse to believe that it's going to solve any problems. That's why I'd like to switch to Mac. It'll be nice to still run Windows on it, too, for emulation and running certain programs that I can't run on Mac.

Can you choose your Macbook with Metal or Hard Plastic? I looked on the Apple website but I didn't see any options. My friend said the hard plastic is the best.

killmoms Jun 22, 2006 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onyx
I'm not a gamer so the Macbook looks extremely attractive to me. About the only gaming I do is on ZSNES and VisualBoy Advance. And I do emulation on a super low-end Windows XP computer as it is.

I can't afford a Macbook Pro, but honestly, I'm not that excited about Vista. The Macbook sounds good enough for me. I refuse to believe that it's going to solve any problems. That's why I'd like to switch to Mac. It'll be nice to still run Windows on it, too, for emulation and running certain programs that I can't run on Mac.

Can you choose your Macbook with Metal or Hard Plastic? I looked on the Apple website but I didn't see any options. My friend said the hard plastic is the best.

No, the MacBook has a plastic casing and that's it. Only the MacBook Pros have aluminum cases.

As for emulation, not sure about GBA emulators for OS X, but there is a great port of SNES9x that works great, so you won't need to boot into Windows just to play SNES games, anyway.

PUG1911 Jun 22, 2006 09:50 PM

VisualBoy and Boycott are available for GBA. Never used Boycott but VisualBoy worked just as well on OS X as it does on XP.

Onyx Jun 22, 2006 10:02 PM

That's good news about the emulation, guys. Thanks for the heads up!

halori Jun 22, 2006 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onyx
I'm not a gamer so the Macbook looks extremely attractive to me. About the only gaming I do is on ZSNES and VisualBoy Advance. And I do emulation on a super low-end Windows XP computer as it is.

I can't afford a Macbook Pro, but honestly, I'm not that excited about Vista. The Macbook sounds good enough for me. I refuse to believe that it's going to solve any problems. That's why I'd like to switch to Mac. It'll be nice to still run Windows on it, too, for emulation and running certain programs that I can't run on Mac.

wow
i have almost the same idea and situation with you...
and i think macbook would be just enough for me
never expect to have so many reply
thanks guys


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