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Technophile Apr 30, 2006 01:22 AM

Metal Gear Solid movie confirmed.
 
and Uwe Boll has nothing to do with it! :)

Koneko Apr 30, 2006 01:28 AM

I'll await further confirmation and more information before I express any glee. (Although the very mention that Uwe Boll isn't involved is comforting.)

Matt Apr 30, 2006 01:30 AM

I hope they don't go about re-re-re-remaking the first Metal Gear Solid story into another media format.

Syphex Apr 30, 2006 01:31 AM

I'm betting Hideo Kojima himself will direct it.

JazzFlight Apr 30, 2006 01:35 AM

Hmm.

Well, if it's based off of MGS, they'll have to change a few things in order to make the story understandable to the general public.

A lot of the plot and characters tie back to Metal Gear 1 & 2. The U.S. movie-going public isn't going to accept:

"oh, they're clones of some guy (with a stupid name like 'BIG BOSS') and what, there's a robot ninja? And it's his old buddy that he killed? What? THIS IS STUPID I DON'T GET IT"

Mobius One Apr 30, 2006 01:39 AM

NOOOOOOoooooo!!1!

Damn it! They'll just end up ruining MGS for everyone. Seriously, unless HK directs (which I doubt he will, he's too busy with MGS4 and has never directed a movie before), there's a 99% chance it will suck. Just because Silent Hill has sort of broken the videogame movie curse doesn't mean videogame movies can't suck anymore. And they'll never ever be able to cast a satisfactory Snake.


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SketchTheArtist Apr 30, 2006 01:44 AM

I've always envisionned the movie to start just before a Dog-Sled competition, during a little snow storm in Alaska. Snake would sit on a rock, thinking about the past when the sound of choppers would be heard. Then a chase sequence in the woods of Snake and the soldiers, sent by Colonel Campbell, to retrieve him.

That's how I'd do it.

But they need to keep the integrality of the 'Interrogation Tapes' from the first game to get the back story. That's how everyone who didn't know squat about the first two games were put back into the whole storyline.

Keym Apr 30, 2006 01:56 AM

I played MGS without having played MG1 or 2 before, and even though all the references to the past games went right over my head, I got the storyline just fine. I'm sure I'm not the only one whose first Metal Gear was Solid.

In any case. This movie will suck unless Kojima or his buddy director... direct it. I had hopes for SH, but eh. Now I'm convinced that every video game movie ever will suck in the end. Sometimes they'll just suck less (Silent Hill).

Mobius One Apr 30, 2006 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
I've always envisionned the movie to start just before a Dog-Sled competition, during a little snow storm in Alaska. Snake would sit on a rock, thinking about the past when the sound of choppers would be heard. Then a chase sequence in the woods of Snake and the soldiers, sent by Colonel Campbell, to retrieve him.

That's how I'd do it.

But they need to keep the integrality of the 'Interrogation Tapes' from the first game to get the back story. That's how everyone who didn't know squat about the first two games were put back into the whole storyline.

You see, that's why it's going to suck. The opening from the original game was perfect as it was, changing it would change the mood entirely. All MGS games open with an action-packed infiltration in which Snake's mission objectives are given to him, none of that prologue crap. And another thing is, most of the player's understanding of the underlying events came from the codec conversations which were long, actionless, and mostly optional. Codec will not translate well into a movie. Niether will simply sneaking around and taking out gaurds because no story happens durring those parts, yet sneaking makes up alot of the game.

As the Existence disc of Subsistence Limited Edition proved, you can't just take all the story cutscenes from the game and mash them together and add a bit of sneaking in between. It just doesn't work. And to make matters worse, that was edited by Kojima himself, I shudder to think what others interpereting his work would do to it!

guyinrubbersuit Apr 30, 2006 02:02 AM

Whoever directs, I think that Hugh Jackman should play Snake. Other than David Hayter, he'll make a fine Snake.

JazzFlight Apr 30, 2006 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Keym
I played MGS without having played MG1 or 2 before, and even though all the references to the past games went right over my head, I got the storyline just fine. I'm sure I'm not the only one whose first Metal Gear was Solid.

I mean, I played MGS first (I haven't even scratched the surface of MG1 & 2), but I had to read those long reports in the MGS main menu dealing with the story of the first 2 games in order to know who these characters were.

dagget Apr 30, 2006 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SketchTheArtist
I've always envisionned the movie to start just before a Dog-Sled competition, during a little snow storm in Alaska. Snake would sit on a rock, thinking about the past when the sound of choppers would be heard. Then a chase sequence in the woods of Snake and the soldiers, sent by Colonel Campbell, to retrieve him.

That's how I'd do it.

But they need to keep the integrality of the 'Interrogation Tapes' from the first game to get the back story. That's how everyone who didn't know squat about the first two games were put back into the whole storyline.


I remember one time I had started to write a script and I made it take place of the take over of the research facilty on Shadow Moses. I'd be happy to upload it so people can see and tell me how much it sucked. :P

Mobius One Apr 30, 2006 02:15 AM

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I played MGS without having played MG1 or 2 before, and even though all the references to the past games went right over my head, I got the storyline just fine. I'm sure I'm not the only one whose first Metal Gear was Solid.
MGS1 was my first Metal Gear game as well, but the references were not over my head at all. If you listen to the Codec conversations Snake's history with Grey Fox is explained as well as his relation to Big Boss (Call the Colonel in the jail cell). They could easily explain Grey Fox and Big Boss in the movie, or they could just do a quick flashback to the events of the first Metal Gear games. Or they don't have to explain it at all, the story was just as good without really knowing any of the history of Snake and Big Boss. Alot of movies work like MGS in which the hero has prior history with characters, but that history never really gets explained (Escape from New York for example), and it still turns out good. My point is that the references to past events isn't the real problem with a movie adaptation.

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Whoever directs, I think that Hugh Jackman should play Snake. Other than David Hayter, he'll make a fine Snake.
No. Hayer looks nothing like Snake and Jackman isn't satisfactory either. Even if they somehow manage to cast someone that looks alot like Snake, the voice will never be right. They'd have to dub the whole movie with the original voice actors from the game, and that would probably be really hokey. Also keep in mind that whoever plays Solid Snake should also play Liquid (Some would cast another actor entirely as Liquid), so he'd have to nail Solid's voice as well as Liquid's. MGS's voice acting is top notch, so not getting the voices perfect would ruin the movie for every fan.

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I remember one time I had started to write a script and I made it take place of the take over of the research facilty on Shadow Moses. I'd be happy to upload it so people can see and tell me how much it sucked. :P

Though it would be cool to see the takeover of Shadow Moses, as I stated before changing the original opening (which btw is what drew many players into MGS initially in the first place (demo)) would take away from the mood. It also seems like there wouldn't be enough time to get to everything in the game (the cutscenes alone are WAY longer than a movie, let alone all the Codec stuff and the sneaking), thus adding even more stuff that wasn't shown in the game isn't such a good idea.

Faust 72 Apr 30, 2006 02:23 AM

I want the movie to based on MG 1 and MG2SS at least to make more understandable. I pretty much can see Karl Urban as Snake and Liquid at the same time or unknown for that at least.

Mobius One Apr 30, 2006 02:30 AM

I would be far less opposed to a movie adaption of the original MSX Metal Gear games than I am to MGS. The games predate voice acting and the graphics make for a wider array of actors that could play a younger Snake (in other words, we won't be able to go "That's not what young Snake looked like!!1!" when we see some actor playing him).

Technophile Apr 30, 2006 03:01 AM

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I would be far less opposed to a movie adaption of the original MSX Metal Gear games than I am to MGS. The games predate voice acting and the graphics make for a wider array of actors that could play a younger Snake (in other words, we won't be able to go "That's not what young Snake looked like!!1!" when we see some actor playing him).

Yeah. Or if they must do anything after MGS, perhaps it'd be best if the movie isn't live-action.

dagget Apr 30, 2006 03:37 AM

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Though it would be cool to see the takeover of Shadow Moses, as I stated before changing the original opening (which btw is what drew many players into MGS initially in the first place (demo)) would take away from the mood. It also seems like there wouldn't be enough time to get to everything in the game (the cutscenes alone are WAY longer than a movie, let alone all the Codec stuff and the sneaking), thus adding even more stuff that wasn't shown in the game isn't such a good idea.


it's not the best written piece of work I've done, plus it's old and I didn't (and still don't to an extent) know the proper script format to use. So I don't need assholes telling me it's formatted wrong.

May be plot holes and/or inconsistanties in there, but like I said it's about 3-4 years old and I was always changing it.

So yeah...


hey, someone add .rtf to the file upload acceptance thingie. thanks :tpg:

Dr. Uzuki Apr 30, 2006 03:42 AM

Michael T. Weiss could pull off Snake. You know, dude from The Pretender?

http://www.michaeltweissthegreatpret...com/mtwpg1.jpg

Give him some stubble, gruff up his voice, and he'd be a good fit. BUT. Even if they cast it right, this movie will fail horribly. Any of the Metal Gear stories are way too convoluted and absurd to be translated to film. Any film conversion is going to need a major overhaul to keep it from being laughable.

vuigun Apr 30, 2006 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Syphex
I'm betting Hideo Kojima himself will direct it.

Don't get your hopes up on that one. When's the last time the maker of a Video Game series actually directed a movie about it? It hardly ever works that way. (Has it ever even happened?)

Technophile Apr 30, 2006 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Uzuki

Give him some stubble, gruff up his voice, and he'd be a good fit. BUT. Even if they cast it right, this movie will fail horribly. Any of the Metal Gear stories are way too convoluted and absurd to be translated to film. Any film conversion is going to need a major overhaul to keep it from being laughable.

Maybe Hideo can work closely with the director to create a new story together that is both fitting within the MetalGear universe and be sane enough for the average movie goer.

Mobius One Apr 30, 2006 04:03 AM

What, Runningman and the Escape movies weren't absurd (Metal Gear draws inspiration from both of them)? Metal Gear's "absurdity" is one of its trademarks considering that it was mostly inspired by those absurd 80's action movies. That is another reason the movie can't work, those kinds of movies are definitely not in style these days. And to go back and change it so that it's not absurd would be the completely wrong thing to do. What are they going to do, get rid of Metal Gear, Ninja, Ocelot's awesome skillz, Psycho Mantis' powers, Vulcan Ravens'...ravens? No. If they do get rid of that stuff, it won't even be Metal Gear anymore.

Technophile Apr 30, 2006 04:08 AM

I didn't suggest for them to completely undo everything that makes Metal Gear...Metal Gear. Just, tone it down a bit. Then again, that would probebly upset many gamers (including me). Perhaps they can go for that "so ridiculous and kooky that it's funny and awsome" vibe. Y'know like the double-double crosses in MGS2, Snake flicking a cig all in slo-mo at the beginning of Snake Eater, etc.

It's definately gonna be interesting to see how they're gonna adapt this into a movie.

Dr. Uzuki Apr 30, 2006 04:09 AM

That's my whole point man. The elements of the game are acceptable because of the format it comes in. And if you set out to cut out the essence of it to get it into a different format, that sort of defeats the purpose.

Mobius One Apr 30, 2006 04:24 AM

Oh man, this is looking more and more dismal the more I think about it. I would say that hopefully we might be able to judge what the MG movie will be like from the Splinter Cell movie (which should hit before the MG movie), but SC and MGS are so different that there really is no comparison except to say that there will be some stealthy action in both of them.

The latest Kojima Productions Report says that there will be a BIG E3 announcement not trailer or game related. I'm thinking they'll either formally announce the movie, or they'll announce MGS is going to the Wii (yeah right! Solid Snake Wii. LOL, innuendo!).

Technophile Apr 30, 2006 04:32 AM

I think MGS on Wii would be pretty damn awsome.

Anyway, I really think that they'll be able to get away with a lot more MGS insanity if the movie's animated.


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