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Bradylama Dec 7, 2009 11:56 AM

Europe is a Christian Cloob!
 
Since the European Court of Human Rights upheld the banning of the hijab in state schools (applicable to all 25 member states), Europeans seem to have done everything they possibly could to make Muslims feel unwelcome, and especially to give the Turks the finger.

Swiss voters, for instance, recently passed a referendum banning the construction of minarets on top of the country's mosques by 57.5%.

Yet to top it all off, Germany and France recently pushed through the nomination of Herman van Rompuy, Belgium's PM, as the EU's first president. Herman van Rompuy is, btw, pro-Christian and has pretty much said that Turkey will never get in the EU.

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EU president: Herman Van Rompuy opposes Turkey joining - Telegraph

Herman Van Rompuy, Belgium's Prime Minister, has in the past spoken out against Turkish EU membership because, he warned, it would dilute Europe's Christian heritage.

His position on the issue is so strong that he has won the support of Vlaams Belang, the controversial far-right Flemishh anti-immigrant party in Belgium.


Speaking five years ago, as an opposition politician, Mr Rompuy, a Christian Democrat, argued that Muslim Turkey could not be considered a candidate for EU membership.

"Turkey is not a part of Europe and will never be part of Europe. An expansion of the EU to include Turkey cannot be considered as just another expansion as in the past," he said.

"The universal values which are in force in Europe, and which are fundamental values of Christianity, will loose vigour with the entry of a large Islamic country such as Turkey."

Filip Dewinter, a Vlaams Belang leader, said: "We are entirely in agreement with Van Rompuy over this question and are convinced he will defend this point of view as President of the EU. It is for this reason we openly support him."

Mr Van Rompuy's opposition to Turkey is set to cement British and East European opposition to him during Thursday's summit dinner to appoint a President and Eu foreign minister.
So are Europeans just trying to be worse than America or what?

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Spoiler:
the Smurfs are a Belgian cartoon

ExoXile Dec 7, 2009 12:08 PM

Turkey is not fit to be in a civilized society, I don't understand why this is hard to see.

Bradylama Dec 7, 2009 12:26 PM

Well, Europe no longer has right to claim moral superiority over Turkey regarding women's rights, for one thing.

Additional Spam:
Now Croatia on the other hand...

ExoXile Dec 7, 2009 12:36 PM

It's not like the rest of Europe has a retractable blade built-in to their apple trees.
At least not legally.

Bradylama Dec 7, 2009 12:40 PM

Hmm yes, the incivility of agriculture

Dullenplain Dec 7, 2009 12:48 PM

Perhaps this is the result of the several decades of being an open liberal bastion of tolerance and acceptance has finally bitten them in the ass, when they think they can go the opposite of what led them to WWII, they've only come back right where they started.

I've heard anti-Semitism is back en vogue in Europe. You'd think that quality alone would help Europeans and Muslim immigrants there to bond, but I guess not.

Bradylama Dec 7, 2009 12:56 PM

Uh Europe has never been tolerant of anything other than sexual deviancy (sometimes). They can't even tolerate each other.

Kilroy Dec 7, 2009 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dullenplain (Post 736282)
I've heard anti-Semitism is back en vogue in Europe. You'd think that quality alone would help Europeans and Muslim immigrants there to bond, but I guess not.

I think you've heard wrong. The most right winged party in Denmark (if we ignore the tiny Nazi party)(this party, the Danish People's Party is compared to Hitler and Nazism by every left winged worth his salt. But then again, what isn't) think that jews and israelis are top notch. Hell, one of the leading figures even recieved the Rauol Wallenberg Medal (I presume that it is something that the Danish Rauol Wallenberg Institue gives)

I was under the impression that it was mostly muslim immigrants who cultivated antisemitism, because it isn't most europeans.

But I might be mistaken?

niki Dec 7, 2009 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dullenplain (Post 736282)
I've heard anti-Semitism is back en vogue in Europe.

Yep. Among Muslims.

ExoXile Dec 7, 2009 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bradylama (Post 736283)
Uh Europe has never been tolerant of anything other than sexual deviancy (sometimes). They can't even tolerate each other.

What?

Dullenplain Dec 7, 2009 01:30 PM

What about the European Left?

From Great Britain through Germany there seems to be a rise of anti-semitic (primarily from anti-Israel) attitudes in their wing, the very same Left who does not see much of a problem with Muslims in Europe, it seems.

We have our fair share of anti-semitic leftists in the States too also, but they're pretty much limited to Academia.

The unmovable stubborn Dec 7, 2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dullenplain (Post 736294)
What about the European Left?

See, whenever you talk about something that starts with Capital Letters For No Reason that's a hint that you are dealing with something more akin to sinister myth than anything to do with reality.

What about Argonezar The Ageless? I heard he also hates the jews

Additional Spam:
no wait nevermind I just realized you're doing the "not sucking Israel's dick? guess you hate the jews" thing

Bradylama Dec 7, 2009 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dullenplain (Post 736294)
From Great Britain through Germany there seems to be a rise of anti-semitic (primarily from anti-Israel) attitudes in their wing, the very same Left who does not see much of a problem with Muslims in Europe, it seems.

We have our fair share of anti-semitic leftists in the States too also, but they're pretty much limited to Academia.

I don't think you understand anti-Israeli sentiments.

FatsDomino Dec 7, 2009 03:27 PM

Can you hate the Jews and love the bullying Israel does? =o

ExoXile Dec 7, 2009 04:03 PM

Of course you can, you can love malice and still hate whoever does it, simple.

Kolba Dec 7, 2009 04:26 PM

This dude might pretend otherwise but christianity in europe is vestigial.

The main reason to bar entry to Turkey is that as a society they have about as much trust in evolution as Americans do.

They're barbarians.

The unmovable stubborn Dec 7, 2009 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AcerBandit (Post 736319)
Can you hate the Jews and love the bullying Israel does? =o

This is essentially the core concept of the modern evangelical movement.

No. Hard Pass. Dec 7, 2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pangalin (Post 736327)
This is essentially the core concept of the modern evangelical movement.

Gotta keep the world moving towards Revelations, Pang.

Edit:

Devon. Get out of my head.

niki Dec 7, 2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kolba (Post 736324)
This dude might pretend otherwise but christianity in europe is vestigial.

The main reason to bar entry to Turkey is that as a society they have about as much trust in evolution as Americans do.

They're barbarians.

Also, geography.

Lord Styphon Dec 7, 2009 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by niki (Post 736334)
Also, geography.

Would this be the same geography that says Cyprus is part of Europe?

Similarly, if the geography says that Turkey isn't part of Europe, why then is Istanbul one of next year's European Capitals of Culture?

niki Dec 7, 2009 05:52 PM

Only the southern part of Cyprus is in "Europe". That says a lot about which geography we refer to.

And that's probably the same that makes a good part of current EU's head make Constantinople Istanbul one of the 2010 capitals.

But apparently Greeks have less supporters than Palestinians. :p

Bradylama Dec 7, 2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Devo (Post 736330)
They need them to sustain Israel though, the Rapture cannot happen without them Jews.

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