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Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jan 23, 2009 12:40 PM

SaGa 2/Final Fantasy Legend II Remake
 
I heard about this days ago, but holy crap, I didn't think it was the Legend game I played (I thought I had been playing Legend III).

SaGa2

Not much is known, except that it's a remake for the DS. I'll add more when I hear about it.

I remember buying the original on Game Boy eight or nine years ago, just because I wanted a portable RPG. I for one am excited about a remake, just because Legend II provided me with all the appropriate weirdness for a SaGa game-- four races to choose from for all four party members (nothing like having a robot and his mutant friends go look for his human father), weird leveling systems that changed depending on the race, traveling through a person's body and having the subsequent dungeon be a crudely designed human shape.

The last SaGa game, Romancing SaGa, turned out fine, and the Last Remnant was great outside of some technical aspects, so I have a lot of faith in this one.

nuttyturnip Jan 23, 2009 12:47 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but what does Last Remnant have to do with the SaGa series, other than being made by Square-Enix?

Rotorblade Jan 23, 2009 12:52 PM

It's specifically made by the SaGa team, nutty.

Fluffykitten McGrundlepuss Jan 23, 2009 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by nuttyturnip (Post 676387)
Pardon my ignorance, but what does Last Remnant have to do with the SaGa series, other than being made by Square-Enix?

As I understand it, TLR was made by the specific SaGa team (As opposed to the FF team or the Dragon Quest team or the Bouncer team (lol)) and has a similar game system, certainly in terms of character progression. As such, it's seen as something of a modern successor to the series.

nuttyturnip Jan 23, 2009 01:02 PM

Well, there you go then. TLR, from what little I have played so far, bears no resemblance to SaGa titles, so I had no idea it was from the same team.

Rotorblade Jan 23, 2009 01:03 PM

Odd that they're remaking SaGa 2, given how its sales stack up to something like Chrono Trigger or various Final Fantasies. Square-Enix's financial reports don't show SaGa 2 as having been a blip on the radar, but Magic Box shows it as selling just slightly over 1 million copies in Japan.

In any case, this remake certainly comes as a surprise. Nice to see the SaGa team taking a bit more prominence in the company.

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Originally Posted by nuttyturnip (Post 676392)
Well, there you go then. TLR, from what little I have played so far, bears no resemblance to SaGa titles, so I had no idea it was from the same team.

The big give away is the seemingly random factors that the game uses for stuff like item gathering, level ups, party equipping, and enemy spawns. The SaGa team loves that shit.

valiant Jan 23, 2009 03:20 PM

As much as I loved the second one, I would have preferred the first SaGa to be remade (and not JUST for the wonderswan).

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jan 24, 2009 11:37 AM

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Looking good!

Vemp Jan 24, 2009 11:54 AM

I can't remember playing the original SaGa 2, but so far remakes for the DS are doing pretty good. I'm not regretting buying the DS, it's every RPG fan's best friend!

Although I remember playing that "brown" SaGa game for the PS2.

JazzFlight Jan 24, 2009 12:32 PM

Hmm, I did play through FFL2 back on the gameboy, but I remember much preferring its sequel, FFL3. The sequel streamlined a lot of the awkward SaGa stuff into something closer to a Final Fantasy game. Plus, it had a pretty cool time-travel storyline if I remember correctly.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jan 24, 2009 12:45 PM

Well, this game looks like it'll be streamlined to some degree. A robot is getting healed by a regular spell, and I believe robots originally were not healed at inns or through normal items or magic.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Jan 24, 2009 01:39 PM

I'd much rather have SaGa 1 remade for the DS. I wasn't a huge fan of 2, for various reasons, but I thoroughly enjoyed the hell out of the first game. It would be nice to replay Red's quest once again, or to go through Asellus' quest as well. I miss a lot of the supporting characters like Mei Ling, Rufus, Fuse and Gen also. The stories in 2 seemed lacking compared to the first.

Detection Jan 24, 2009 02:23 PM

I like 3 the most but then again I never finished either of the first two. Can't wait to hear the music.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Jan 24, 2009 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash Landon (Post 676589)
I'd much rather have SaGa 1 remade for the DS. I wasn't a huge fan of 2, for various reasons, but I thoroughly enjoyed the hell out of the first game. It would be nice to replay Red's quest once again, or to go through Asellus' quest as well. I miss a lot of the supporting characters like Mei Ling, Rufus, Fuse and Gen also. The stories in 2 seemed lacking compared to the first.

SaGa isn't SaGa Frontier in this case.

If you've played this game before, it was under this title:

http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/ga...games/39-1.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SaGa_(series) For more info if you need it.

Final Fantasy Phoneteen Jan 24, 2009 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash Landon (Post 676589)
I'd much rather have SaGa 1 remade for the DS. I wasn't a huge fan of 2, for various reasons, but I thoroughly enjoyed the hell out of the first game. It would be nice to replay Red's quest once again, or to go through Asellus' quest as well. I miss a lot of the supporting characters like Mei Ling, Rufus, Fuse and Gen also. The stories in 2 seemed lacking compared to the first.

Now, for me, I thought Frontier's characters lacked the personality and depth of Frontier II's. I only ever enjoyed the robot's story, while II had Prince Gustav's intriguing story arc and the supporting characters (Wil Knights' story sucked, I'll give you that).

Gustav's story began before he was even born, all the way through to his exile, to his return home years later, to his victory over his half-brother in the ensuing civil war, to his unification of various kingdoms, and even beyond his death; the developers taking care to thoroughly explain what happens in the ensuing power vacuum as his former generals begin to turn against each other. Then, quite appropriately, his story finishes with an epic final battle against an impostor and pretender to the throne, which leads to a true successor to Gustav's position. The Battle of South Moundtop is so hard that it actually has its own guide on GameFAQs. Fun stuff.

RacinReaver Jan 26, 2009 03:50 PM

Like Jazz, I remember liking Saga 3 better than 2. I think 2 had that system where each weapon had a limited number of uses, and 3 didn't, and that was the one of the main reasons I liked 3 better. I can't stand games where I only have a finite number of uses of a special weapon since I'll never actually use it out of fear of needing it later. :(

Also, 3 had time travel, airships, and cities underwater.


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