Father held his daughter prisoner for 24 years
 

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Austrian Incest Nightmare: Father Confesses to Horrific Crime - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

24 years, wtf...

It's almost unbelievable that nobody noticed anything over two and a half decades. Also, this man looks pretty much horrifying, I wouldn't want to meet him in the park http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsys.../emot-pedo.gif

What the hell, that's terrible. Not only did he rape her repeatedly but he kept her from living her life for 24 years. Something like this is hard to even fully comprehend, because it just seems to insane.

Let's not forget he also fathered 7 (grand)children with his daughter. Most of which ended up in an incinerator... yup, thats fucked up.

By "most" you meant one right?

I can't believe his wife didn't even know about the cellar. What, for two decades, she never went down there? If she tried, and he told her not to, and that was that, for 24 years? Clearly she'd see it was in use, because he'd be going down there every so often. The other alternative is she just never thought about it.

Either way it's a little strange.

I think it's pretty strange to that the wife didn't know about it. It said that the door had an electronic code on it so maybe she didn't know the code and didn't question why he was going down there. Although that is kinda strange.

But that's just so horrible! It's extremely bad that he held his daughter prisoner for 24 years and raped her repeatedly. It's even worse that he burned one of the children in the furnace. Even though I don't think there's anything that could be much worse. I just can't understand how someone could do something like that. Having kids with your daughter,killing one of them,holding them hostage in the cellar and no one knew about all that? It's just so weird and so very sick. I wonder who gave the police that tip and how they went about finding it out.

Ya, misread that.

Still... that's pretty messed up.

The mind is a terrible thing to behold, etc.

Extremely disturbing and had done a damn fine job of keeping his wife in the dark regarding the electronic lock due to his masterful fabrication of lies.

I just sincerely hope the daughter and the kids will be alright. Wouldn't be surprised if one goes homicidal but I hope it doesn't happen.

"The case unfolded after a gravely ill teenager was found unconscious on April 19 in the building where her grandparents live, and taken to a hospital in the town of Amstetten, about 120km west of Vienna. Authorities publicly appealed for the mother to come forward to help diagnose the young woman's condition. After receiving a tip, police picked up the 42-year-old woman - identified as Elisabeth - and her father on Saturday close to the hospital."

Austrian man confesses to holding daughter captive – police | Herald Sun

Man, I wonder if there is something in Austria's water that makes crazy people keep hostages for years, underground :p

So, the father and his wife actually brought up some of the grandkids? What the hell must the wife have been smoking? "UhH...anotHer kid jUust camE ouTt of da basEmeNt...*nurture*"

Oh wait...

...but still! Come on, wife! Get with the program! As if you're able to follow a story this guy says anyway; I wouldn't be able to 'cause I'd be too transfixed on his pedo eyes. <3

Ugh. And ugh again. This is one of those things that brings all of humanity down a notch. I don't know how many "Why" or "How can" questions I could make out of this. I seriously can't believe that for TWENTY-FOUR YEARS his wife didn't know about this. I mean, this isn't something that is not noticable (as I'm sure there are a variety of things such as NOISES that would occur).

The room was soundproof, still this is disturubing indeed considering he is living in a civilized moderen culture...

Wow! I read all of that and just wow. It tells a bit more about it and what happened. So Im wondering if whoever gave the tip knew about what was going on or if they just recognized the woman from all those years ago. This whole thing is very bizarre. He definitely needs more then 15 years in prison. I hope he's kept locked up in a psychiatric ward.

Wait I don't get at all the explanation of how she was discvoered.

So some teen got ill in the building, and went to the hospital.
Then... what happened?

I don't get this section at all "Authorities publicly appealed for the mother to come forward to help diagnose the young woman's condition. After receiving a tip, police picked up the 42-year-old woman - identified as Elisabeth - and her father on Saturday close to the hospital." Can someone rephrase it for me ?

24 years, my god. And he managed to keep it a complete secret, even from his wife (in his basement no less)! 24 years of raping his daughter, bearing 7 children, one which got tossed into a furnace and 3 of which got to see their first ray of sunshine the same day the police found them. So much for paternal love.

That poor daughter, locked up for 24 years, how is she supposed to readjust and rejoin society? And as for the father, very rarely has the death penalty looked so insufficient and so impotent as it does now. Nothing short of an eternity of pain and torture would seem sufficient for this case.

Yes, if only there were some place to send him where he'd feel a similar pain. Where he could be confined to a small area with little to no sunlight and humiliated by others stronger than him. Imprisoned, if you will.

The most disturbing thing about this is the article's mention of another girl recently escaping from the same kind of situation after eight and a half years. Two of these crimes in less than two years is pretty horrible when I've only heard of maybe three others total.

I'm still not clear on how the wife didn't notice this for 24 years either. Assuming he managed to soundproof the cellar enough to block out the screams of childbirth, you'd think the wife would've wanted to see the area so much money and construction work was going into.

The article stated that he had an electronic lock installed on the door, and even then the pictures made it look like the door was somewhat, if not entirely hidden, so even if the wife found the door, she couldn't have gotten in. Who knows.

Beyond that, yes the old man should be severely punished for this crime. Any word on whether the incest babies were born with a mental handicap or disability? I mean, don't incest couplings usually end up with deformed babies?

The door was hidden by a tool rack, and pretty small so if you didn't know where to look you wouldn't have found it. Even so, either the woman knew about it and is in denial, or she's seriously retarded. Just the fact that she hadn't seen her daughter for 24 years while her husband didn't seem to worry so much should have been a hint to what could have been going on. Belgian newspapers reported today that they suspect there may be other men involved, they are testing the paternity of the children, and they also can't see the guy pulling a stunt like this off alone (he went on holiday for a couple of weeks, so someone had to look after the girl).

rocketdog:
The man "adopted" his incest daughters, and when one of them got sick, they needed a family history to diagnose her. The police searched for the woman, who was presumably missing, until they eventually discovered the cellar.

Incest only increases the chance of malformed offspring with the likelihood increasing dramatically generations down. I don't know if any of the kids have disabilities, if none of them did it would surprise me but that's not really important.

This is pretty much the most horrible thing I can conceive of. How do you even live your life after this? How do you go on knowing that you're the product of brutal incestual rape? That your birth mother/sister was being raped regularly beneath your feet by your own father?

If all of these kids hopped into a car and drove off a cliff, I would understand completely.

I think that the article said that the father left the children on the doorstep, with a note from their mom. Presumably, the idiot wife thought that her daughter came back from this 'cult' she ran off to and left her children for her parents to raise, then took off back to the 'cult'. The wife knew/thought she was raising her grandkids.

I can't contemplate how anyone could MISS something like this... yet alone how anyone could be the brains behind this sort of operation. Its sickening.

It was actually pretty well constructed and hidden, if he could just make occasional visits when nobody's around and make sure she's fed at least somewhat regularly without drawing suspicion I could see nobody being the wiser.

I don't feel the need to pass judgment on someone indirectly related in this awful story that came out two days ago. I'm just saying I need more information here before I call someone who just found out her daughter was being raped for a quarter of a century right under her nose an idiot.

Of the details that came out so far, what surprises me is that the father reportedly took the eldest of the cellar-children to the hospital because she was extremely sick. It doesn't even surprise me in a hindsight-is-20-20 way, just that, if I spent eighteen years hiding the existence of a person from the entire world, I would be a lot happier if they just up and died quietly.

He probably couldn't fit her in the furnace.

Dude's probably getting too old to dig out a little mini mausoleum for the body, either...

This is really nothing new. Is no one here familiar with the 1977 case of Colleen Stan?

She was kidnapped by a husband and wife, forced to live in a box under a bed for seven years and go through various types of S&M torture, force-feeding, sodomy, rape, etc