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Karasu Apr 18, 2008 08:44 PM

Question: Is Super Smash Bros. A Fighting Game?
 
A friend and I are discussing this, and I am curious to know what GFF thinks. Do you consider this game series a fighting game, like games such as Street Fighter, Tekken and The King of Fighters? Or do you feel its more of a beat 'em up party game?

Honest question, im just curious.

Rotorblade Apr 18, 2008 08:58 PM

Yeah, it's a fucking fighting game.

Animechanic Apr 18, 2008 09:06 PM

Well, it is a fighting game, but not in the traditional sense. It's really the only entry in the genre, except maybe for Red Hot Rumble, but that still had health bars. I guess the closest thing I can think of is the wrestling games that have the mode where you try to throw everyone else out of the ring.

I've been using the term "brawler" to define Smash Bros since the N64 version. And hey, what do you know, the latest installment is called Brawl.

Rotorblade Apr 18, 2008 09:19 PM

Where is the discussion here going to head? Real talk. Non-fiction diction. Brawler? Fighter? Semantics.

Let's try "This is fucking stupid." Smash Bros. is a fighting game. No it doesn't contain some of the more complex inputs and some specific to game mechanics of other fighting games, but sadly for all you critical thinkers out there, it still contains the concept of "Player vs Player" beating the living shit out of each other.

Tails Apr 18, 2008 09:29 PM

Now if only it contained something we like to call "Balance."

Then the circle would be complete.

Yeah I said it. Fuck you Rotor. FUCK YOU!!!!

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Apr 18, 2008 09:47 PM

I wonder why people care about genre classifications. Do they think that a different type of game in the same genre tarnishes the "purity" of whatever genre they happen to enjoy?

Sorry Karasu, buddy, but what sort of discussion are we trying for here? I'm not even certain. Wether or not we consider Smash as "serious" a game as those other listed titles?

Karasu Apr 18, 2008 09:56 PM

Well seeing as you guys are in Smash Bros. mode lately, im asking you fans honestly what you would classify this game as. I actually forgot to put a poll up, which i'll do now. And no this isn't about tarnishing the game or anything, its an honest question. I don't play the game, but I personally do not consider it a fighting game 'in the traditional sense'.

J-Man Apr 18, 2008 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Karasu (Post 596595)
Well seeing as you guys are in Smash Bros. mode lately, im asking you fans honestly what you would classify this game as. I actually forgot to put a poll up, which i'll do now. And no this isn't about tarnishing the game or anything, its an honest question. I don't play the game, but I personally do not consider it a fighting game 'in the traditional sense'.

The Wiimote is also not a controller "in the traditional sense", does that make it any mess of a controller?

In my opinion, for what it's worth, I'd say it's a fighting game. The central aspect of the game is two or more characters hitting each other with various things to cause bodily harm. You know, fighting. I don't think of fighting games as exclusively game where two people stand beside each other and deplete health meters.

Cetra Apr 18, 2008 10:31 PM

I would say Smash Brothers is to fighting games as Zelda is to RPGs.

Oh..yeah I went there.

Manny Biggz Apr 18, 2008 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cetra (Post 596608)
I would say Smash Brothers is to fighting games as Zelda is to RPGs.

Oh..yeah I went there.

And Final Fantasy is to RPGs as Dungeons and Dragons is to monopoly.

This whole genre confusion thing never made sense to me.

Cheezeman3000 Apr 19, 2008 12:30 AM

What do you do in the game? Beat things up. Ergo, fight. Vis a vis, fighting game. Concordently, Smash Bros. is a fighting game.

YouTube Video

value tart Apr 19, 2008 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cheezeman3000 (Post 596634)
What do you do in the game? Beat things up. Ergo, fight. Vis a vis, fighting game. Concordently, Smash Bros. is a fighting game.

YouTube Video

I typically don't QFT anything, but DAMMIT you said exactly what I was going to say.

Who gives a shit if it's not as "purely competitve" or whatever as Street Fighter? You fight things, it's a fighting game. Why must everything have such a strict label?

Infernal Monkey Apr 19, 2008 02:17 AM

Question: Is this thread NeoGAF quality?

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Rotorblade Apr 19, 2008 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tails (Post 596588)
Yeah I said it. Fuck you Rotor. FUCK YOU!!!!

I was offended? NANTOKONFUSED.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Apr 19, 2008 03:27 AM

I believe it's a fighting game as much as Power Stone was a fighting game.

Krelian Apr 19, 2008 03:56 AM

Its a fighting game without many of the conventions of your average two-people-rigidly-face-each-other-and-pull-off-intensely-long-button-combos-which-in-no-way-represent-what's-happening-on-the-screen fighting games.

Chaotic Apr 19, 2008 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tails (Post 596588)
Now if only it contained something we like to call "Balance."

Then the circle would be complete.

Marvel vs. Capcom 2 was far from being balanced.

Hay, look! It's Sentinel, Magneto, and Storm!

NovaX Apr 19, 2008 04:34 AM

wow, i can see this thread going downhill fast. not that it was perched that far up on this hillside anyway.

mortis Apr 19, 2008 07:40 AM

Wrestling game? Um, hmmm, well, I haven't played Smash Bros since the N64 days but it never really felt like a wrestling game. Then again, I tend to play them a lot more than most people.

The game honestly reminds me of POWER STONE. There, I said it. Happy now? POWER STONE. C'mon, one more time, POWER STONE.

But yeah, running around, fighting everyone, getting power-ups, that so reminds me of power stone. Perhaps another game similar to it might be the Superstar Jump! game or whatever it's called. The reason I say that is Power Stone doesn't mix tons and tons and tons of characters from other games.

Krelian Apr 19, 2008 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mortis
The game honestly reminds me of POWER STONE. There, I said it. Happy now? POWER STONE. C'mon, one more time, POWER STONE.

Power Stone kinda reminds me of Smash Bros.

mortis Apr 19, 2008 08:03 AM

The funny thing about it is that everyone said that if you liked Power Stone, you'd like Smash Bros. For some reason, i did not. WHAT HAPPENED?!

Omnislash124 Apr 19, 2008 09:15 AM

Smash Bros. is definitely a fighting game. It has quite a few deviations from a traditional fighting game, but at its root, its still a fighting game. What it doesn't have is the "memorize-this-button-sequence-and-unleash-some-crazy-ass-combo-that-only-you-and-other-people-reading-this-would-know." which I am rather thankful for. I hate fighting games otherwise, but Smash Bros. is the exception.

The two games that are _somewhat_ like Smash have been mentioned before are Power Stone and one of the Shounen Jump Superstars games that I also cannot remember the name of.

Jurassic Park Chocolate Raptor Apr 19, 2008 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey (Post 596653)
Question: Is this thread NeoGAF quality?

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Yeah, basically.


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