Gran Turismo 5
 

Yeah ok it's a racing simulation

BUT! It's going to be an awesome racing simulation! The first two videos are very promising, and holy shit, there are some of the most awesome cars: Audi R8, Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG, Ferrari F430 and Clio V6 Renault Sport.

Hitting the market in 2008. Your first impressions?

Lemme guess how this one differs from #4:

• Better graphics
• Smarter AI
• Some new game mode(s)
• More cars
• Better physics
• And...uh...a SECRET CLOWN CAR
• Also, oh, uh, Forza had that decal creating dealie, let's add that
• Also, Props instead of Kudos, because Kudos are dumb

Just like EA Sports' offerings, these Gran Turismo/Forza/Project Gotham Racing releases are all the same, every year, with enough little things here and there to make people drop -- what is it now? $60? -- on the new release every year or two. Pictures like the one you posted, Mush, do nothing but make me wonder if there is any creativity left in SCEA with regards to the GT series. HEY, EVERYBODY'S CHASING EACH OTHER ON THE SAME PATH, LET'S HOPE SOMEONE IS BALLSY ENOUGH TO TRY AND PASS SOMEONE ELSE.

The only thing that would make this game fun is outrageous crash scenes, because, let's face it: that's what game makers are slowly starting to learn from SportsCenter. Crashes = ratings.

I don't think that GT5 will offer "crash scenes", in this case, you might want to get Burnout: Paradise instead :(

Wow, very promising first reply in this thread. 'Better graphics, better AI, better everything, man, this fucking sucks! I want this game to be a DIFFERENT GENRE!'

Edit: cockpit view:

http://i19.tinypic.com/5zdew3o.jpg

I think the point I was trying to make was that the three games I mentioned are doing the same thing year after year, and it's annoyingly predictable, at least in my eyes. I'm not the sort for driving sims, as you can plainly tell, so I'm sorry if my post was a little more biting than one would expect.

I mean, taking each of the three newest games (GT5, PGR3 and F2), there's hardly much difference to discern from each. I suppose that could be said about any two games which are based in the same vein (take two NBA games from any particular year, for example).

There's nothing really fantastic that draws me to these games anymore. Better graphics can only do so much. Better AI, I fear, could just be a detriment to a learning curve that is already steep when you're a newbie jumping right into a game that demands a lot in terms of understanding braking, shifting, drafting, following lines, etc. The training mode that GT4 offered only goes so far if you don't have the right mind for the game.

Um, yeah, so what core changes do you expect developers to introduce in a driving simulator? If you're not interested in driving simulators and want arcade gameplay and crashes, play Burnout: Paradise, as Musharraf said. It will probably be more fun than Gran Turismo, either way. But I kind of don't understand what you want to accomplish here. I think football games are fucking lame, but I don't go in Madden threads and start complaining that the players are still running around the field and throwing a ball and nothing has changed since the NES.

Maybe I'm just curious what keeps people coming back for more.

Or maybe I'm trolling and I just don't realize it yet (probably the latter). If so, I'll just go back to where I came from and find a mod to fix the mess I made.

I'd sure would like to know what the allure about games like these are.

Ok, so you don't enjoy this particular genre too much. What's your point?

Well I don't know about GT (only really played first two), but PGR series is always innovating every game. PGR2's big thing was car damage, online leaderboards for each race, and downloadable replays on the fly as well as the walk through garage. PGR3 had photo realistic environments of the cities as well as GOTHAM TV. And now PGR4 is introducing for the first time Changing weather conditions that affect the performance of every vehicle as well as introducing motorcycles into the kudus world.

As you can see bizarre creations is doing quite a lot and probably other stuff I forgot to mention. I never played Forza, but havent heard anything totally innovative except total customization and trading cars. Although I could be wrong.

If you are going to simulate something that occurs in real life, once you get to a certain level of how well the game simulates this real life activity, you won't be able to innovate any further! Gasp! Basically if they add a lot of nice, new tracks, make the game look nice, make the AI believable, have a ton of cars, and have realistic physics, it will be worth a purchase. This isn't complicated. Have a racing sim and want to make a sequel to it? Step one should always be to add new tracks. Step two would be to add new cars. Step three would be to explore new game modes/race types.

That would be the best thing ever! I guess they're not adding car damage again because that would be too much like hard work, but what's going to happen for online? The GT games let you easily abuse the fact that the cars must remain perfect, you can pinball off other cars going round corners with no worries. People like me would do that all the time online, it would make others angry! :]

you know all those overtaking in the middle of a turn challenge missions in GT4, you just listed the easy way to beat them all with a cheap car and therefore farm money for a better vehicle. I have always liked the GT series so I am pretty sure this version won't let me down as long as I still have a ton of models and tracks to play with I will be fine. So far I am waiting for one thing, more paint colors to be honest I was always bothered with the fact that in most cases you had a limited scheme of colors to work with, not talking about decals or stuff that complicated just a wider array of colors to choose from.

After seeing what Forza offered with their decal designs and whatnot, who wants to bet that Sony has pressured the GT guys to include a similar feature, only with keyboard and mouse support, more robust image editing tools, and possibly user uploaded images.

YOU DON'T SOUND VERY FAMILIAR WITH GRAN TURISMO DOPE! LET ME FIX YOUR LIST!

• Better graphics
• Smarter AI
• Some new game mode(s)
• More Less cars
• Better physics
• And...uh...a SECRET CLOWN CAR Ferrari licence
• Also, oh, uh, Forza had that decal creating dealie, let's add that
• Also, Props instead of Kudos, because Kudos are dumb

Ta da! Gran Turismo 5!

I AM INSTANTLY REASSURED THAT THIS GAME WILL BE GOOD.

Well, Gran Turismo 5 will be amusing because we'll finally find out what the PS3 can do in the hands of a competent development team.

I'll probably just do a lap with the Tiburon and sell it.

Look dude, I don't go into your NHL 94 {NHL 95 is vastly superior by the way} thread and piss in your cheerios. If you CLEARLY have no interest in the game being discussed, why are you even in this thread? You knew when you clicked on the thread that it was about a racing sim, which you clearly do not like, and yet here you are, trolling.

This is probably the most realistic screenshot of a video game I have ever seen. And I'm pretty sure it's not pre-rendered since it looks like a photo mode picture, if it wasn't for the logo on the upper left, I'd think this was a real photograph.

that screenshot is beautiful... XD

Personally, I don't see myself buying a PS3 for this game. I've been a fag for the series since 1997 but I've grown steadily weary of it. I WANT to like the game but, so far, the series hasn't shown me any significant improvements. It's not like the graphics and physics leap that GT3 was over GT2 so, to me, this isn't really an incentive.

But, to be realistic, if I ALREADY had a PS3 I wouldn't even THINK about buying this game. I'd slurp it up like it was cheap beer when I'm hungover. I love the series that much.

The series main goal... fuck, that was stupid of me. Titular claim, RATHER (driving simulator) has usually let me down. I think there are better games to play if you're looking to actually race. Admittedly, I'm of the mind that things like racing and sports games could be pursued in lol real life and feel much more fruitful (yes yes, not all of us can be racing pros, have the budget for tuning, have the ability to play sports at a certain level). However, I can't deny that looks awesome... it's just that the series has always looked great. A zenith of graphics even. As already stated before, if you didn't like it before on a glance, you're probably not going to change your mind here.

Unless the racing and driving is radically different this time around I'll still pass.

Such as what, Burnout? Just because you actually have to use the brakes and AVOID drifting like a maniac into people doesn't mean you're not actually racing, y'know.

MotoGP and TOCA, actually. The variety of racing situations TOCA puts you in is rather impressive. I realize how one could jump to the "BURNOUT" conclusion based off my post, just don't see the necessity. Just here for love of games, is all.

yea, I know what you mean. I'm a big fan of gran turismo as well and I feel that every new installment in the series only has the graphical improvement and a slightly altered physics engine. i think the biggest thing polyphony has to add for GT5 is damage, not just cosmetic but damage that affects how the car handles, the ability to customize the car's body and online play, which i think they are working on. Oh, the drift mode from GT HD was a nice addition that I hope they plan to keep.

Your average GFF idiot doesn't play TOCA, you're going to have to forgive me for assuming, especially considering the stupid hate in this thread already. My bad for assuming you were as dumb as the most of the rest of the populace.

Good fucking call with TOCA though, although I personally don't dig MotoGP just because I'm not a huge bike racing fan.http://colonelskills.belkanairforce....ages/ace/1.gif