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Lady Miyomi Mar 17, 2006 05:28 PM

"You don't act your race/age/etc etc."
 
I was thinking about this since it was introduced a little in the have you been bullied before thread. I've heard many accounts of this and have gone through it myself.

Why does society or certain parts/certain members of society put emphasis on this? Also, have you experienced something like this?

For example, a lot of my friends say I "sound white". I'm equating it to the fact that I pronounce words how they're meant to be pronounced minus slang and such (well, I use an occasion slang word here and there). I've had both races say this about me. I was ridiculed about this growing up as a kid.

SMX Mar 17, 2006 11:40 PM

Like I said in the last thread, I get the same exact shit from people about the sounding white thing.

I believe the issue here is how people ultimately define their reality. Most people’s ‘reality’ is a systematic and mostly automatic association of objects in relation to some type of understanding that’s invoked within them. IE, with most people, saying ‘yo nigga tight this that’ is suppose to invoke the object of ‘black people.’

The dilemma rises when this association isn’t filled correctly. Since the average person couldn’t care less about the process of how and why, the only thing they are concerned about is, is the right object invoking the right understanding. If this doesn’t happen, they are lost, because they don’t understand the process. Things have to be clear cut for them, since they suck at thinking abstractly. For example, in order for them to understand, things have to blatant. IE:

Black People = ghetto talk
White people = proper talk
Asian people = ching chan talk

The less capable they are at thinking abstractly, the more their mind has to have blatant associations like this.

If you break that association, their mind has to work harder to comprehend a more foreign way of interpreting. And thus, they outwardly attack the object that’s making their mind work differently. In other words, they attack the black person that ‘sounds white.’ Or, the white person that ‘sounds black.’

kat Mar 17, 2006 11:48 PM

I don't speak ching chan talk and I'm the most Asian person most of my friends know. Who are also Asian.

chaofan Mar 17, 2006 11:56 PM

Oh man do I not act like an Asian! And oh MAN does my gf not act like an Aussie!

In high school, almost all of my subjects were not part of the "Asian 5" (English, Maths Methods, Specialist Maths, Chemistry, Physics"). I have an Aussie accent (not the nasal kind aka Steve Irwin). I prefer Nintendo than Sony (though I play both). I'm going out with a white, and prefer white girls. I play AFL (an Aussie footy game) and cricket rather than badminton. Is that not Asian or what?

Oh and I'm too mature for my age. That I'm actually proud of.

My girlfriend? The exact opposite. She don't act Aussie. She's smart and studious. She has an Asian accent. Her English is gooder than some fobs, but almost the same. She prefers Nintendo over Xbox (though plays both). She likes watching anime. She can speak mandarin and cantonese. She goes out with me (an Asian) and prefers Asian guys. Is that not Aussie or what?

Oh and she's too immature for her age. That she's actually proud of.

Many laughs. I guess thats why we go well together!

Spike Mar 18, 2006 12:26 AM

I smell a lot of bullshit in chaofan's post.



Silly asians. =P

chaofan Mar 18, 2006 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike
I smell a lot of bullshit in chaofan's post. Silly asians. =P

If you don't believe, you don't have to. I'm not dodgy anyways (which is another un-Asian thing).

Spike Mar 18, 2006 12:39 AM

Haha, I'm just messing with you man. You're starting to sound like one of those self-hating asians.

kat Mar 18, 2006 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike
Haha, I'm just messing with you man. You're starting to sound like one of those self-hating asians.

He probably is. We have a lot of them running around this board.

YO PITTSBURGH MIKE HERE Mar 18, 2006 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kat
He probably is. We have a lot of them running around this board.

Sup Megalith.

Oh, and I guess I get comments that I act much older than my age, and "post older" as well. Phsyically, I'm more mature, so that could have something to do with it, as well, but I really think I act more mature than some of the other kids my age.

Spike Mar 18, 2006 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kat
We have a lot of them running around this board.

How unfortunate. Well actually, I kind of find them funny. "I hate asians!!! But wait, I am one, but I TOTALLY don't act like it. Can I join the white race now please? Die Asians!!!"

Worst kind of racists ever...

Stealth Mar 18, 2006 01:00 AM

I suppose I don't act my race. In elementary school, they kept putting me in ESL classes because I was hispanic. Problem was that I learned both English and Spanish while growing up, and never had a problem with either.

I also disassociated myself with all of the hispanic kids while in school. I'm not sure why, but I just never liked most of them. However all of them pretty much hated me for it later on, because I wasn't acting my 'race'. It really was pathetic.

In my opinion, it's these type of people that continue to advance racism. It's not other people calling you a nigger, or anything. It's that they can't accept the fact that you're just another person that happens to have a darker skin color. My skin doesn't predispose me to have a shitty hispanic slang, and only like a certain type of music.

kat Mar 18, 2006 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike
How unfortunate. Well actually, I kind of find them funny. "I hate asians!!! But wait, I am one, but I TOTALLY don't act like it. Can I join the white race now please? Die Asians!!!"

Worst kind of racists ever...

Any self race deprecating person is. I just always find it hilarious that they hate their "asianness", but usually has a hard-on for anything Japanese.

Note. Bleach. Sig. And I'd add Spatula on that list.

Lady Miyomi Mar 18, 2006 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealth
It's that they can't accept the fact that you're just another person that happens to have a darker skin color. My skin doesn't predispose me to have a shitty hispanic slang, and only like a certain type of music.

You'd be surprised at the shocked looks I get when I open my mouth and out comes English the way it's suppose to be said, not garbage ebonics.

chaofan Mar 18, 2006 01:24 AM

Er... I don't hate Asians. I was just raised in Australia and I just act Australian. Nothing to do with me hating Asians.

As for my girlfriend, she doesn't hate being Aussie. She just grew up with a lot of Asian influences (friends etc.)

Spike Mar 18, 2006 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kat
I just always find it hilarious that they hate their "asianness", but usually has a hard-on for anything Japanese.

Which describes chaofan EXACTLY. Oh how easy it is to read some people.

Chaofan: "I don't act asian at all, but I have an anime avatar and have a long list of asian stuff in my sig! P.S. I don't act asian at all!"


lame

chaofan Mar 18, 2006 01:25 AM

-_-' I don't act Asian but I still have an Asian personality... My morals and values are all Asian. My interests are all Asian. It's just when I talk and socialise, I act Aussie. Gee -_-' If I known I would've had people thinking I hate Asians I wouldn't have posted -_-

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Originally Posted by chaofan
Er... I don't hate Asians. I was just raised in Australia and I just act Australian. Nothing to do with me hating Asians.

As for my girlfriend, she doesn't hate being Aussie. She just grew up with a lot of Asian influences (friends etc.)


kat Mar 18, 2006 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by chaofan
-_-' I don't act Asian but I still have an Asian personality... My morals and values are all Asian. My interests are all Asian. It's just when I talk and socialise, I act Aussie. Gee -_-' If I known I would've had people thinking I hate Asians I wouldn't have posted -_-

Then you're Asian Australian. Except maybe your real ethnicity is Chinese or Vietnamese or some "garbage" Asian category, not an awesome Asian like Japanese or Korean which are so much more desirable.

Just liking Japanese anime and music doesn't give you a default "I'm totally proud of my ethnicity" card. And I don't think anyone here thinks you hate Asians, just that you wish you weren't one.

chaofan Mar 18, 2006 01:42 AM

I'm totally proud of my ethnicity cause I'm proud of who I am among this "white" Australia. And I'm glad I'm Asian because of the values and stuff we hold. Dude if I wished I wasn't one I'd dye my hair blonde and get blue contacts (and I actually know someone who does that).

BTW, I'm Taiwanese. Also, what do you have against "garbage" Chinese/Viets anyway?

Stealth Mar 18, 2006 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lady Miyomi
You'd be surprised at the shocked looks I get when I open my mouth and out comes English the way it's suppose to be said, not garbage ebonics.

Believe me, I know the feeling.

Lady Miyomi Mar 18, 2006 01:49 AM

I don't understand why it should be a shock. There are people in this world that aren't white that can speak just as good. What's the big deal with all the looks? It's annoying. Sometimes I feel like letting out some ebonics just to get on their nerves, but I would be playing right into their hands.

kat Mar 18, 2006 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chaofan
I'm totally proud of my ethnicity cause I'm proud of who I am among this "white" Australia. And I'm glad I'm Asian because of the values and stuff we hold. Dude if I wished I wasn't one I'd dye my hair blonde and get blue contacts (and I actually know someone who does that).

BTW, I'm Taiwanese. Also, what do you have against "garbage" Chinese/Viets anyway?

I don't. I was being ironic.

Different Asian cultures hold different values. My family's Chinese values are different than Japanese values and I'm only proud of mine. So by saying you're proud of Asian values doesn't bode well to your attachment to your culture.

Whatever, it's your life, it doesn't concern me. I'm just calling it how I see it.

chaofan Mar 18, 2006 01:55 AM

Oh, well I apologize for not being specific. I uphold my Taiwanese values and am proud of them. That better?

For the sake of this thread, my friends comment on how I'm too mature for my age. That came from depression and me having to look after my bro as the elder sibling.

Rydia Mar 18, 2006 02:19 AM

I get the "You don't act your age" one a lot. I look younger than I really am, so people tend to be surprised when I begin discussing things that wouldn't seem fitting for my appearance.

Another one is "You don't act like a smart person." Although silly, I got this one a lot during high school for various reasons.

Nahual Mar 18, 2006 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealth
My skin doesn't predispose me to have a shitty hispanic slang, and only like a certain type of music.

funny thing about me is that people don't say anything about me, because of my white skin, and once they learn I'm Mexican they say I don't look Mexican and then they accuse me of not acting like I am...

That was in the beginning. Now people just leave me alone while I listen to my rock music. :edgarrock:

Lady Miyomi Mar 18, 2006 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rydia
I get the "You don't act your age" one a lot. I look younger than I really am, so people tend to be surprised when I begin discussing things that wouldn't seem fitting for my appearance.

Another one is "You don't act like a smart person." Although silly, I got this one a lot during high school for various reasons.

I ALWAYS get the "omg, you don't look your age at all!". It's beginning to get annoying because people are still asking me when I'm graduating from high school. I usually say something along the lines of "nine years ago"...

Also, how does a smart person act? There's lots of brilliant serial killers running around here. So, should you be acting like them? :p


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