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WarpStar May 22, 2007 02:35 AM

Smash Bros. Brawl Music Team an All-Star Cast, Too
 
We already know about Uematsu composing the main theme of the new Super Smash Bros. game, but look at who else is going to be contributing to the soundtrack:
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/music01.html

Dark Nation May 22, 2007 04:01 AM

As I mentioned in the main Smash Brawl thread a couple forums up: I CAME.

Some of the stuff on there is really left field too. Like Streets of Rage or Digital Pinball.

chato May 22, 2007 06:14 AM

For some reason, I want to hear alot from Yuzo Koshiro than any other composer there. Unfortunately as it was mentioned on the other thread, each musician might just get a track. A good example would be FFX. They had a group of elite musicians and pulled some tracks off together. If SSMBB is like that, I won't mind.

bishop743 May 22, 2007 06:52 AM

DAMN! That is the ultimate dream team of composers right there. I know Nintendo has been flaky the last several years with their soundtrack releases, but if they don't release an album for this, someone's going to pay!

ikkei May 22, 2007 07:34 AM

If all they are going to do is to arrange some famous nintendo songs, I won't be interested at all.

Basil May 22, 2007 08:55 AM

HELL YES.

When I first skimmed the list, I almost half-expected to see all Nintendo composers on there, even people who only worked with one game (ie Norio Hanzawa for Wario World, Kozue Ishikawa for Wario Land 3, Akita Nakatsuka for LoZ 2, etc.), but I admit the lineup is awesome enough as it is. Nintendo BETTER release a soundtrack for this :mad:

Ceft May 22, 2007 10:19 AM

Well, I'm hoping at least for a decent Metroid arrange.

To tell you the truth, I did not enjoy Melee's music. They made most of the music sound way to dramatic. And the instrumentation = bleh. The Metroid arranges also were pretty bad IMHO. I enjoyed the original SSB soundtrack much more.

If Brawl's soundtrack is more akin to the first SSB, then I certainly will be happy.

I'm happy to see a lot of my favorites on that list, but too bad no Shinji Hosoe nor NON. :(

orion_mk3 May 22, 2007 10:31 AM

Wow, that's quite a list. They must have quite a music budget; everybody but Basicscape is there and accounted for.

Seriously, though--how many tracks will each composer write? One? Two? It doesn't seem like there's enough room in the game for that much music--how many tracks to these Smash Brothers dealies usually contain?

While I am impressed, and I'll soon have some new tracks by my favorite composers to hunt down, I sort of wish they'd stuck with one or two composers (Mitsuda and Shimomura of course :D), since the more composers there are, the less cohesive the resultine music tends to be.

cubed May 22, 2007 11:37 AM

There's no SSH in sight. Nintendo is disappointing me.

Basil May 22, 2007 11:50 AM

Someone ripped the Menu 1 theme off the site.

http://files.filefront.com//;7573434;/


Composed by Hirokazu Ando, arranged by Motoi Sakuraba.

I haven't listened to this yet, but it must be awesome according to the reviews I've heard so far.

There was only one other composer needed to make this announcement "News of the Year", but unfortunately Follin HAD to retire from the VGM industry. :(

Dhsu May 22, 2007 12:18 PM

No Sakimoto or Hamauzu. :(

orion_mk3 May 22, 2007 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue_Kirby2 (Post 437637)
There was only one other composer needed to make this announcement "News of the Year", but unfortunately Follin HAD to retire from the VGM industry. :(

It seems like there's a real barrier to cross-Pacific musical communication--you never see Japanese composers working on US or UK games, and vice versa with very few exceptions (e.g. HGW on MGS). So they probably wouldn't have hired him even if he was still in the biz.
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Originally Posted by Dhsu (Post 437650)
No Sakimoto :( or Hamauzu. :)

Fixed :D

Monkey King May 22, 2007 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by orion_mk3 (Post 437683)
Fixed :D

Hey, not all of us are wild about seeing Sakuraba on the list, either. I'd rather have Hamauzu than him. At least his arrangement of Menu 1 isn't too bad, although he's once again unable to figure out how to end a song.

Most likely, each composer is getting one or two songs apiece, but it's a lovely nerd fantasy to imagine that they've got so many composers on board that they're going to have multiple alternate tracks for each level, or maybe one for each character.

Kaleb.G May 22, 2007 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by from the site
We've asked our group of arrangement supervisors to listen to an elite selection of Nintendo music and asked them to arrange several of their favorite songs...which means there will be quite a number of songs.

Sounds like this means all of these people will just be arranging classic Nintendo tracks. It also kinda sounds like each one will be arranging multiple tracks.

I'm looking forward to this.

THE POWER OF WATER May 22, 2007 05:03 PM

Another issue with having so many, so many composers, is that the game'll probably sound like it was written by thirty-six people: that is, with a whole bunch of different styles all over the place. Could end up giving each of the stages their own distinct flavor, and also could end up making it seem like Sakurai just cherry-picked a bunch of tracks he liked without regard to consistency.

Another issue is that just because so many good people are working on it doesn't mean that the music will actually be any good. :(

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Originally Posted by orion_mk3 (Post 437614)
Seriously, though--how many tracks will each composer write? One? Two? It doesn't seem like there's enough room in the game for that much music--how many tracks to these Smash Brothers dealies usually contain?

The USF set of SSB has 47 tracks. Including jingles, Kairyu's SSBM rip has 97 tracks.

seanne May 22, 2007 05:47 PM

As some people have already noted, I'm guessing the guest composers here will handle a couple of arrangements each, with the bulk of any actual composing effort handled by Shogo Sakai (with some help from newcomer Kentaro Ishizaka). That seems like the most likely scenario to me. And what an awesome one it's looking to be! =o

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Originally Posted by CHz (Post 437760)
The USF set of SSB has 47 tracks.

Do you know how many of those are actual in-game music tracks? I'm asking as the official soundtrack only contains 28 in total.

THE POWER OF WATER May 22, 2007 06:54 PM

Considering there's no Mac USF player, I have no idea! :(

el jacko May 22, 2007 08:21 PM

Don't forget, in all likelihood all the arranged music will be performed by the same performers/MIDI so at the very least it'll sound similar, even if the composing styles are completely different.

But really, this is Smash Brothers we're talking about here, a game that takes just about every style of character and puts them into one game (even Solid Snake!). It would almost be silly for them not to make every piece of music sound really different.

Additional Spam:
they also need to get sakuraba the hell out of there, and put in a good composer (I second sakimoto!)

Dragon God May 22, 2007 09:03 PM

As awesome as this list is.... the lack of Hosoe, Saso, Yack, Tsukumo, etc... makes me sad :(

Tho I'm still VERY surprised that Hayama got picked. I'll be looking foward to hearing his track(s).

WarpStar May 22, 2007 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon God (Post 437914)
As awesome as this list is.... the lack of Hosoe, Saso, Yack, Tsukumo, etc... makes me sad :(

Yeah, that was a bit of a surprise, actually. Usually the SuperSweep guys are all over the big collaborative arrangement projects.

neothe0ne May 23, 2007 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by seanne (Post 437782)
Do you know how many of those are actual in-game music tracks? I'm asking as the official soundtrack only contains 28 in total.

The OST combines the victory themes into the stage themes. The USF has them separate. As far as I'm aware, the OST is also missing the Character Select music. I don't remember the other major differences off the top of my head.

TheKnightOfNee May 24, 2007 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragon God (Post 437914)
As awesome as this list is.... the lack of Hosoe, Saso, Yack, Tsukumo, etc... makes me sad :(

Tho I'm still VERY surprised that Hayama got picked. I'll be looking foward to hearing his track(s).

I would've loved it if those people got in too. And I was definitely shocked when I saw Hayama's name there too.

A lot of those names, I'm really looking forward to hear what they put together. Noriyuki Iwadare, Yuzo Koshiro, Michiko Naruke, Yasunori Mitsuda, Arata Iiyoshi.

Dark Nation May 24, 2007 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by neothe0ne (Post 438432)
The OST combines the victory themes into the stage themes. The USF has them separate. As far as I'm aware, the OST is also missing the Character Select music. I don't remember the other major differences off the top of my head.

The RIP I have of Melee has a total of 80 tracks:

39 Actual Stage Songs, Intro Song, All-Star Intro Song, 2 Menu Themes, Victory Themes (Being Seperate), and then the music for mini-games like Multi-Man Melee & Tournaments. There's also the Trophies and then Stage Clear mini-songs. Finally at the end small songs, almost sound effects: Starman, Hammer, Warning Siren, and then the Ending Song.

So you're looking at least a good 40-45 actual "Songs" as opposed to just seperating the themes of the characters & other miscellaneous pieces.

Super Smash Bros Melee Soundtrack <-- The OST for Download/Comparison.

neothe0ne May 24, 2007 04:06 PM

Dark Nation, I'm talking about the original Super Smash Bros. I don't know what you're talking about, because there is no Melee soundtrack.

Dark Nation May 24, 2007 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by neothe0ne (Post 439099)
because there is no Melee soundtrack.

Very important to point out that there is not an official one, mine is a RIP from the GC.

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Originally Posted by Mobygames.com
There exists a re-recorded soundtrack for this game, released solely as a bonus for Nintendo Power readers. It features all of the "arranged" tracks as played in a concert. Unfortunately, the orchestra is poor, and virtually none of the renditions are as good as the ones within the game.

I cannot be 100% certain of the authenticity of that statement, but it can be found on the Trivia page for the game: http://www.mobygames.com/game/gamecu...s-melee/trivia.

And as for the original, There are indeed 28 Tracks, plus a few bonus "Club Mixes" of 4 of the songs, and a Sound Effect Collection. I'll upload that if you'd like.


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