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Gecko3 Jan 6, 2007 01:45 AM

Scientists find a diamond in the skies
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/n...19.stm?Awesome

All I can say is, wow. Now I wonder how long it'll be before jewelry makers try to capitalize on this thing lol.

Dullenplain Jan 6, 2007 02:07 AM

Very long, I guarantee you.

If you figure that in to the total supply of diamonds on Earth, assuming gem quality stones here, I think value of diamonds will become worthless. Unless DeBeers has anything to say for that matter.

However, I doubt we'll be pushing for interstellar flight even if diamond magnates are pushing to tap into this great resource (although I think the gravity alone on white dwarf stars is enough to prevent any meaningful mining of them for resources).

Identity Crisis Jan 6, 2007 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dullenplain
Very long, I guarantee you.

Agreed.

Since nothing can travel faster than the speed of light and the diamond is fifty light years away, it will require colossal amounts of time to develop technology that can travel near the speed of light for fifty straight years.

Anyway, back to the topic, the diamond sounds amazing (ten billion trillion trillion carats?), but it isn't all that practical to go after such a development. Although, it is interesting that scientists can measure the interstellar diamond based on its pulsating behavior.

Monkey King Jan 6, 2007 02:44 AM

Seems a bit impractical to even think about going after it, given that there's already a process to develop man-made diamonds. If we need diamonds that badly, we can make them ourselves.

Dopefish Jan 6, 2007 02:56 AM

1034 carats? Yeah, I'd say that would run the price of diamonds down a scoche (sp?).

That's ten decillion carats. That's 10000000000000000000000000000000000 carats. That's SILLY.

DragoonKain Jan 6, 2007 03:41 AM

It is 50 light years away so we aren't getting there anytime soon if at all.

and it is funny saying that because in terms of space 50 light years is absolutely nothing.

Spike Jan 6, 2007 04:22 AM

Yeah, we suck at space travel. =(

Isn't the farthest man-made craft Voyager 1? It just recently passed the termination shock and is in the heliosheath of our solar system. I don't remember how far that is, but it's not that far in terms of space travel. =(

Dekoa Jan 6, 2007 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Yamamanama (Post 358064)
Technically, it isn't forever, since we have the possibility that protons have a half-life to , and even if they didn't, the universe favors iron for reasons relating to quantum tunneling and binding energy, but, whatever. It's not like the universe will be suited to all but the most hardy life forms (cockroaches) by the time the diamond is gone.

Yeah, Diamonds aren't forever. BUt I think their half-life is so great that it's like a millenia. The only thing that I could think of that we would use pure diamnonds for that they would go and try get it is if we discover space travel with pure diamonds and Faux ones don't work. Thus the government tries to harvest is. BUt I don't see that happening.

Why Am I Allowed to Have Gray Paint Jan 6, 2007 11:14 AM

You can make synthetic diamonds, and natural diamonds are only so expensive because DeBeers monopolises and constricts the supply. You might as well mention that nebula that contains billions of tons of alcohol. Just as hard to reach and just as useless.

Such a Lust for Revenge! Jan 6, 2007 11:58 AM

And somewhere out there, a giant green lizard protects a particular point in space, knowing the world is not yet ready for unlimited SoBe.

I want to say something on topic here now, but after reading Yama's post he knocked me into lolies.

Dubble Jan 6, 2007 04:48 PM

Does anyone else find it poignant that long after we die into nothing but vaporized ash and space dust, the collective suns of our galaxies are all destined to die and fill the sky with the most radiant diamonds in the known universe which can never be touched or approached, but only gazed at by those in space who will succeed us?

Perhaps that's the artist in me talking, but that almost seems sad and kind of poetic...

The Wise Vivi Jan 6, 2007 05:20 PM

I am not surprised to see people thinking of the economic gain to be had here. It seems to be the driving force behind a lot of the advancements we have made in this world. Its interesting to see that somethings that occur on this planet happen in different places in the galaxy.

S3 2007 Jan 7, 2007 06:25 AM

Truly this universe is full of mysteries, this is just another example.

I'm quite ashamed that our space program hasn't advanced much.

Bolide Jan 8, 2007 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by S3 2007 (Post 358749)
Truly this universe is full of mysteries, this is just another example.

I'm quite ashamed that our space program hasn't advanced much.

Thank our wonderful government for that as it currently doesn't think that space exploration is a financial priority.

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And somewhere out there, a giant green lizard protects a particular point in space, knowing the world is not yet ready for unlimited SoBe.
Ya know, considering some of the scientific theories that exist today, I'd say this is a somewhat reasonable hypothesis!

Such a Lust for Revenge! Jan 8, 2007 10:33 AM

So, I will reveal my potential ignorance now. Why should we waste money on Space Programs when we should be investing on what we have here? Is it because, deep down, we know Earth can't handle us much longer and we need to colonize someplace new for the future? Is it to improve our own planet? Or is it really just about curiosity?

Why Am I Allowed to Have Gray Paint Jan 8, 2007 10:57 AM

That's not ignorance, it's just common sense to invest money in real and present problems we have now than in the space program. Sure, the space program does create spinoffs that we can sometimes use in our daily lives but that isn't common. I think air travel will benefit the most from current research through joint ventures between the Japanese/Australians/USA into scramjet technology.

Having an active space-program was mostly just a very expensive pissing contest during the Cold War; it isn't as necessary anymore to try and send send men to Mars or back to the Moon. Research is still very important though for the economy, especially because asian countries are catching up at a phenomenal rate.

Aardark Jan 8, 2007 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Mason (Post 359474)
So, I will reveal my potential ignorance now. Why should we waste money on Space Programs when we should be investing on what we have here? Is it because, deep down, we know Earth can't handle us much longer and we need to colonize someplace new for the future? Is it to improve our own planet? Or is it really just about curiosity?

"There are lots of hungry people in the world, Mallory, and none of them are hungry because we went to the moon. None of them are colder and certainly none of them are dumber because we went to the moon."
"And we went to the moon. Do we really have to go to Mars?"
"Yes."
"Why?"
"Because it's next. Because we came out of the cave, and we looked over the hill and we saw fire; and we crossed the ocean and we pioneered the west, and we took to the sky. The history of man is on a timeline of explorations and this is What's next."

I dunno, I think if you want to talk about wasting money, you should be looking at the army instead. The budget of NASA is less than 5% of what the US military budget is. I don't think money spent on science is ever ''wasted'', be it space exploration or anything else.

It's not that Earth can't handle us for much longer -- I'm sure it can, unless we nuke it ourselves -- but sooner or later humanity will have to move on, or become extinct. Well, the Sun becoming a red giant is pretty far off, but there are more real concerns like impact events (asteroids, meteroids, comets) or a gamma ray burst, or other shit. The probability of such events is statistically very small, but sooner or later something like that will happen, and if our only concern until that will have been ''what's here'', it will already be much too late.

That's just the practical aspect of ensuring the survival of humanity. There's also the thing about astronomy being insanely interesting. You can say that it's ''just'' curiosity, but curiousity is what got us out of the caves.

Shonos Jan 8, 2007 01:38 PM

Better to start now and be able to act when something is going to go wrong than wait untill just before death is knocking on your door, and not having the technology or knowledge to save yourself because you didn't take those first steps long ago.

Which seems to be a problem with Humanity. We don't do anything untill something extreme forces us to and by then it's too late. Way too many examples of this in everything we do.

Going to the moon or mars and exploring further out is the first step in securing our future. We live in a very dangerous place despite what people like to believe. I mean, the sun could decide to get pissy and spout off a CME (Coronal Mass Ejection) our way and send humanity back to the 1900s for years. A rock, even a minor one, could smack into us and cause alot of problems. One could be on its way to ram into us and only give us a week or so warning. Since, you know, only a small portion of our sky is watched. You can't even see comets untill the sun starts melting them. If one of those decides to head our way we would have very little time to react. If you want events that happen much closer to home you could have a Super volcano go off and pretty much destroy much of our food production abillity. Events like these three happen. It's not a matter of if they will happen it's a matter of when.

Go much further into our future and you have the sun dieing, the moon drifting far enough away to wreak havoc on our enviroment and weather patterns, the Milky Way colliding with Andromeda, and so on. Though that's so far in the future if we were not in space by then we would be extinct...

I would feel much more secure knowing some group was researching or actively pushing out further into space exploration so when shit does hit the fan we have a better chance of survival.

munchkin13 Jan 8, 2007 01:58 PM

That is amazing! Just shows that our solar system is mysterious. In terms of planets which one is this diamond nearest too?

Aardark Jan 8, 2007 04:27 PM

It's not in our solar system. It's a star (white dwarf) by itself, 50 ly or about 4.7 × 1016 km away from our solar system.

Gechmir Jan 8, 2007 05:28 PM

Rats. Everyone beat me to the punch on making a jab at DeBeers :( Sigh...

Such a Lust for Revenge! Jan 9, 2007 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Aardark (Post 359546)
"And we went to the moon. Do we really have to go to Mars?"
"Yes."
"Why?"
"Because it's next. Because we came out of the cave, and we looked over the hill and we saw fire; and we crossed the ocean and we pioneered the west, and we took to the sky. The history of man is on a timeline of explorations and this is What's next."

What, does Mallory's husband Jimmy work for NASA? =O Sure, there has been forward progress since the caveman days but that sure as hell doesn't mean the next forward step is space. We have a lot of shit to worry about from this planet, namely ourselves, before we should focus on a GAMMA RAY BURST.

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I dunno, I think if you want to talk about wasting money, you should be looking at the army instead. The budget of NASA is less than 5% of what the US military budget is. I don't think money spent on science is ever ''wasted'', be it space exploration or anything else.
Five percent or not; millions (or probably billions) of dollars are still the same. And you and I both know there's no sense in hoping that military (WAR) dollars are ever gonnna go anywhere else. America's past time is baseball while humanities is destroying one another. We need money for such recreation.

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It's not that Earth can't handle us for much longer -- I'm sure it can, unless we nuke it ourselves -- but sooner or later humanity will have to move on, or become extinct. Well, the Sun becoming a red giant is pretty far off, but there are more real concerns like impact events (asteroids, meteroids, comets) or a gamma ray burst, or other shit. The probability of such events is statistically very small, but sooner or later something like that will happen, and if our only concern until that will have been ''what's here'', it will already be much too late.
You really think we can do a damned thing about those things? You know better than I do, so tell me. Shonos says humanity has the tendency of not doing anything until it's far too late, which is damned true. What's also true is that humanity thinks it can, with enough time and money, fix/solve/prevent anything; squandering God knows what in the process.

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There's also the thing about astronomy being insanely interesting.
True.

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You can say that it's ''just'' curiosity, but curiousity is what got us out of the caves.
Let's see what else it'll get us out of.

Dubble Jan 9, 2007 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Mason (Post 360267)

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You can say that it's ''just'' curiosity, but curiousity is what got us out of the caves.
Let's see what else it'll get us out of.

Or into...

**kills a couple of cats**


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