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95% of Americans have had pre-marital sex
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So much for that idea. Seems like it's fairly normal to get laid before getting married. Do you think it's a waste of money to have a government-funded program to have kids refraining from sex? |
While I see nothing wrong with the gov't promoting abstinance, the problem is they're focusing SOLELY on it. They should be teaching about proper choices, protection, birth control, etc for when they do become adults.
You're not gonna stop kids from doing it, but shoving once answer down their throats isn't gonna work. |
I think these polls and studies are a bigger waste of money than any "abstinence" program. Who are these people being polled? Where do they come from? Has anyone here ever met one of these people?
And who's to say these people didn't lie? How do we know that they didn't see some "grey area" that is or is not in this test? Are blowjobs sex? I mean, whats the fucking criteria already? In the end, who gives a shit about what USA Today has to tell me about everyone else and lets get back to fucking and drowning our daily worries in Firefly and Jack Daniels. |
Why is it the governments business when a responsible adult has sex? Junior Anti-Sex League, ahoy.
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Why is this newsworthy? People have been fucking before getting married since the beginning of time. I was under the impression that this was common knowledge. Just because sex wasn't thrown around in the media like it is today doesn't mean that people weren't doing it.
I hate the idea that it is somehow gov't responsibility to educate people about having sex. If parents would parent their own kids, we could save a shitload of money. |
This doesn't surprise me that much. Maybe the extreme percentage does, but not the fact that more people have had pre-marital sex than those who have not.
Realistically speaking, marriage is only a requirement of most religions. For those of us who don't participate in a religion, marriage is less of a requisite for the fulfillment of life and more of a method of entering a different tax bracket. It's become a rite of passage, and that's the only reason the nonreligious still pursue the sacrament of matrimony. Functionally, being a commonlaw spouse is no less rewarding. If you care about someone enough to enter into "marriage", what difference does a notarized piece of paper make? Who cares what the government or church thinks? A binding relationship eschews all of that and the only thing that matters is the commitment between two people. Sex is one of the most natural acts that exists between lovers and no presiding body will ever be able to change our instincts. Paper, schmaper. For those who have casual sex, even then there are reasons: curiosity over a "taboo", a desire to become practiced so that one can truly please a lover that counts, a need to unwind and enjoy something in the moment, etc. These are all valid, despite the risks involved. Some authorities would insist otherwise, but that's really just crowd control. Nobody else has the right to tell you what to do with your body. |
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Haha, I'm just imaging the 5% of people who firmly believe in the "no sex before marriage" rule, and how they'd react to this. However I'm picturing your stereotypical prudish old lady (who probably think most of the USA population shares their chastity), which makes my perception seem rather close-minded.
I can't help but wonder what the results are for other countries; if the USA is 95%, then what would, say, England's ratio be? I'm not going to share any conjecture here, seeing as I'm just being naively inquisitive. I can't be sure of the reliability of this poll. LeHah said it perfectly; people can be too vague and unreliable. Until they conduct these polls with lie detectors in tow, I will be skeptical. |
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"Pre-marital sex" is just a nicey-nice way of saying "adultery". Quote:
It's only certain agencies, and particular people within those agencies who possess an agenda, as Devo mentioned, that create a fuss over sex. See, free sex is bad for the U.S. government. They like to hide behind morality and disease control. But really, it's tax code that makes the government care. If everyone could just have sex whenever, why, there'd be no need for marriage! If there was no need for marriage, then nobody would need to pay for marriage licenses! And then how would the government monitor you for taxation purposes? Ever notice how almost every important form has a section pertaining to your marital status, as if that somehow affects your ability to write a check? It's statistics. Nothing else. If the government couldn't tax you for being in a relationship, it wouldn't care with whom you slept. |
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Also, God, I think I'm beginning to agree with a lot of Libertarian ideals. |
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Kids have been fucking before marriage since the dawn of time. A government funded program is not going to stop or put a dent in it. I do suggest they should spend the funding on education into prevention of diseases, unwanted pregnancy, birth control, etc etc. You will not stop teens from engaging in premarital sex. Those that are going to do it, are going to do it. Those who are going to wait until they are married are going to do so regardless of any government study. More time on education for those that will. |
Birds are always gonna fly. Teenagers are always gonna fuck. Aside from 1984-esque brainwashing, there's really no way around that.
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So are people supposed to be surprised by this statistic? |
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Who really cares if people are having sex before marriage? And when it comes to kids, supressing them from it is just gonna make them want to do it more. Many teens are gonna have sex anyway, cant' exactiy stop them unless you have them on 24/7 surveillance. It's best that they do it safely. |
I wouldn't say this study is far-fetched at all.
I've known people who swear by the whole "no sex before marriage" bit and wouldn't hesitate to kick any "dissenting" partners to the curb. By the time they reach their mid-20s, they realize they're probably not getting hitched anytime soon, so they abandon that practice. For the uninitiated, the whole "no sex before marriage" thing stemmed from the days where women were the equivalent of cattle and they were most valuable "untouched". Fathers would use their daughters as bargaining chips for gold and/or land. As a result, fathers guarded their daughters' purity with their lives. The Church saying "no sex before marriage" made the fathers' job easier in that respect. |
The abstinence only education thing down there in the US is fucked up. It obviously isn't working and will never work. The whole gang of right wing Christian agenda pushers are just doing it to appeal to a certain demographic to get votes and funding. According to this study, 95% of them apparently didn't practice what they are currently preaching. I think that it'd be difficult to think of a bigger waste of tax dollars than this huge investment.
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I don't see anything wrong with sex as long as you are being smart about it. Learn the proper way to prevent disease and make sure you take the precautions to limited infections, etc., I mean, its about teaching people how to be smart and have the knowledge to be safe. Just telling them they shouldn't have sex, doesn't help in terms of educating people.
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I heard this on the radio yesterday, and the man speaking made this comment:
"And it's likely going to continue." Gee--ya think?! Quote:
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I think my high school did a pretty good job in teaching students about sex education. They made sure you had to take sex education freshman year. This way everyone would know about it instead of putting it off and taking it senior year and saying, "CRAP, I wish I knew about AIDS before I tapped that ass." People might think freshman year (age 14) is too soon but they're wrong. My school had the right idea; to education us on diseases and protection as soon as possible. Other high schools in my area didn't care when their students took sex education so I'm glad I went to my school. Quote:
Pre-marital sex just means sex before marriage; you don't have to be committed to your sex partner. Adultery is a crime in which you are married and you cheat on your lawful spouse. Adultery is, by far, more worse then pre-marital sex. |
Pre-marital sex means fornication; adultery requires one or both participants to be married.
So I read this article earlier today while at work and had the following to say: Quote:
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