So I really like this girl...
 

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If you really love someone, let them go and if they come back, that means it was meant to be.


It may be corny, but it was in my horoscope a month back or so... *shrugs*

I don't think that would really apply to this guy's situation.

So basically you're in a pretty difficult situation here, in that you are looking for something serious, but she isn't. She is willing to date, but not to commit to anything serious, which would not satisfy you if you were to date her casually. But at the same time, if she starts dating some other guy casually and they hit it off and decide to get more serious, you have possibly missed a good opportunity.

Basically, you need to ask her out with the good old "Look, I'm not asking you to marry me, I'm just asking to pay for your meal" line. Maybe you two go out in a date scenario, you charm her any way you can, and she realizes that hey, maybe the two of you crazy kids might have some good times together. Maybe the two of you casually date for a while, and maybe eventually it grows to something more serious. If you are as patient as you say you are, casually dating shouldn't be a big problem.

well, you don't wanna force her into being with you that's for sure... cuz it might scare her but it might also be a good thing if your forced her to be with you cuz that way it might finally hit her and be like "omg, wtf was I thinking??? This guy is AWESOME!!!"

girls are blind and they don't know what the hell they want and that is why you should show her what she wants. She wants you so you go force her to be with you.

Or maybe she's on rebound right now, I dunno...

Well it seems she doesn't want that type of relationship with you. Appears she likes you as a friend but cannot see herself having that type of relationship with you in particular. What you can do is be a good friend and have fun for the time being for you can't really do anything about the sitation if she does have a boyfriend.
Dude that is one girl too, there are plenty of fish in the sea. Just keep in mind that you are good friends for you can't have too many friends, such as ones like those. Apparently she cares for you too as a close friend.

as Russ said, play down a level and don't be so serious. Some people take a while before realization or definate decisions sink in so don't force it. Unless you're absolutely persistent to date her on the serious level in being togeather forever etc, then I have no real advice on that. Plus, look on the brighter side, walking out of a serious relationship is very derastic and may hold the chance that you two cannot face each other the same way as you two have before dating (eh, speaking out of personal experience -__-") but at least if it's more of a casual dating, i've seen alot of people still remain reallyl good friends if one figures out themselves and ends the dating relationship.

There's no saying what it will take for a girl to change her perception of you and the way she thinks of you. That being said, there are a lot of things you can do to make yourself naturally more attractive to women in general.

I'd agree with turning it down a notch or five. You're good friends, but you keep latching this "I like you a LOT" stuff on her and it probably made her a little scared at first, and then made her put up a natural defense that automatically shows up whenever you stray too far into that zone, so that she won't BE creeped out. I mean... imagine if a girl started telling you that she cared for you deeply and would wait years for you - and you've only ever been friends? If a girl did that to me, even if I was attracted to her, I'd be weirded out. Or take the opportunity to make out with her, depending on how I felt at the moment. Or both.

My point is, you need to figure out what she finds desirable (not what she SAYS is desirable, but what really IS desirable to her) and find those qualities within yourself and enhance them. Don't center your life around her, otherwise it looks like you have no life.

Well... I told her if she only thought of me as a friend today and she said She really doesn't know. She doesn't know what she wants exactly. She also gave a scale from 1-10. 6 being on the friend level she gave me a 7.5-8, but after the break up with her boyfriend she has said I went down to a 7. She doesn't understand herself why it went down.

:eyebrow: A scale?
Well, my approach would be to tell her what she wants. In a manner of speaking. I'd be like "You know what, you're confused right now. You've no idea what you want. So you're going on a date with me. And I'm going to call all the shots about where we go on this date, since you, y'know, don't know what you want. And by the end of the night, you will know what you want, and you will go after it - after thanking me for my help, of course."

Or something to that extent. And she'd either say "Okay" or "Haha... you can't be serious" or "Hah, um, no." And no matter what she said (in fact, especially if she says yes) I would say, "Nope, no, I don't want to hear any argument, you are NOT hurting yourself by going out with a friend to have some fun, and I know it sounds appealing to you, so do it!" Then I pick a time and day, and tell her no excuses, whatever she has to do, this will be more interesting.

But that's just MY approach. You do your thing. Or try something new if you feel like acting ballsy.

She already thinks of you as a friend and a nice guy in which case you have no chance of ever going out with her. Give up now and save yourself the anguish.

Actually, I'm lying. Go out with someone else and she might change her mind. Go out with a bunch of girls in quick succession and treat them like shit and she'll be on your dick before you can say "Doormat". Trust me, I reckon I'm one of the only people here to have got a shag out of a "Just good friend".

I think she just sees of you as a friend.

I'm kind of in a similar boat. I have this beautiful friend, whom I've been with in almost every class and grouping at school for about 3 years now. Well, at first I'm really "into" her, and she knows it too. But as we spent more time together (usually doing school stuff), the feeling I have for her disappeared, not completely, but it was just turned down a notch. Well, I really think she views me only as a friend, and now I view her only as a friend, and I won't try to make moves on her, not that I don't think it will work, but more like I don't want to.

All I'm saying is, she sees you as a friend, you do like her, but don't make that a reason for you not to go out with other girls, boys, or boy-girls.

... must mean your open to any advise. Well i can tell you from countless experiance "If you never try then you'll never know" and you will live your life wandering what if...it's a sad sad life trust me.

Well, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Lufia removed the contents of the original post, thus preventing me from offering entirely relevant advice.

This doesn't sound good unfortunately. I've had a woman try to literally "quiz" me with various questions and based off of my answers, she would determine whether or not the relationship was going to last. This type of approach (somewhat analogous of this girl of yours' approach) is extremely offensive to me. To me, it sounds like she'll just need to be given a chance to figure out how she feels about you.

This part 1 is history. Part 2 is where it's at! :judge: