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Balcony Heckler Oct 19, 2006 06:08 AM

Hayao Miyazaki, the godfather of anime
 
there's a subject I wanted to get a lot of anime fans opinions on, and that is the opinion of whom I feel is the greatest anime director/creator of all time, Hayao Miyazaki. For me, to view his works is as viewing the Mona Lisa or the Pyramids, a true work of art and genius.

Hayao Miyazaki is simply the master of his genre. I got introduced to his works with Princess Mononoke and have been a devoted fan ever since. A japanese pen pal of mine once told me that in Japan, Miyazaki has the collective experience and renknown of Spielberg and Lucas combined. My personal favorite of his is Spirited Away.

I'd love to hear everyone's opinions on this master of anime masterpieces, and what's your favorite Miyazaki film

Jonus Oct 21, 2006 04:22 PM

I like mononoke hime. Its one of the best movies ever. No stupid good/evil stuff, no stupid heroes, only a little clieche and great music.

PiccoloNamek Oct 21, 2006 04:31 PM

Totoro for the win. I watched that SO many times when I was a kid.

Greeder Oct 21, 2006 04:31 PM

Same here, Princess Mononoke was the first movie I saw from Hayao Miyazaki.

Was a hard decision, mostly between Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away, Both of them are really really good but I didnt really like the ending of Princess Mononoke so I voted for Spirited Away.

All in all I think all of Miyazaki's movies are more or less Great *duh*

Pyocola Oct 21, 2006 05:00 PM

I voted Porco Rosso. I think it's one of his most imaginative films, I love the setting, also have a slight fascination with airplanes, and add to that the music; at least to me one of Hisaishi's more memorable scores. It makes me feel quite a bit a nostalgic as well.

Oh, and anyone who votes Howl's Moving Castle deserves a punch in the face.

Gechmir Oct 21, 2006 05:01 PM

Ohh Christ =/ So hard to pick... All of his animes are just fantastic. Guh... I really can't choose easily. But maybe Nausicaa?... The animation is stupendous despite how old it is! =o

Spirited Away is probably my least liked (not saying it's bad. Just my least favorite). Porco Rosso is a fantastic comedy, and Mononoke Hime is a kickass action flick.

Shenlon Oct 21, 2006 08:37 PM

mononoke for the win. It was the first of his films that I saw and it wasn't like any other anime I've watched back then and its still one of my favorites especially since its a bit more mature than his other films.

Summonmaster Oct 21, 2006 08:47 PM

I've only seen Mononoke-hime, Spirited Away, and Howl's Moving Castle, but I was moved by the purely magical style present in the films. Especially in Spirited Away and Howl's Moving Castle, being the newer ones. The worlds are always so mystical and done in such an indescribable way that no other has has reproduced successfully. You can just tell from the films that "it's a Miyazaki". I was literally paralyzed with awe after watching each movie, which no other director has ever managed to do to me. I am now on a mad dash to eventually buy and watch the rest of the masterpieces, knowing that they will all be good and fantastical.

Tawnee Van Pelt Oct 21, 2006 09:11 PM

Wow, I read the thread's title and I expected the worst. I thought the man was dead.

I've only seen Spirited Away, which is an UBERSHAMEONME, that's why I don't hang out here too often ;____;

FatsDomino Oct 22, 2006 03:49 AM

Um, what? Hayao Miyazaki isn't the godfather of anime. That title belongs to Osamu Tezuka.

Also, there should clearly be more votes for Castle in the Sky.

map car man words telling me to do things Oct 22, 2006 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcerBandit
Um, what? Hayao Miyazaki isn't the godfather of anime. That title belongs to Osamu Tezuka.

Naw, his title is "God of manga".
Still, I wouldn't call Miyazaki a godfather of anime either.

As for films, Porco Rosso is without doubt Miyazaki's finest film. Laputa, however, will always remain a personal favorite of mine.

Nausicaä is easily his worst film, despite its obvious quality. Jumbled, short plot and curiously one dimensional characters compared to his later works.
Nausicaä manga on the other hand, now that's just godly. Massive, sweeping storyline, superbly fleshed out characters with plenty of depth and very thought-provoking and aweinspiring subject matter. Had he made the film after finishing the manga, it would have certainly turned out a far better realised motion picture.

Aardark Oct 22, 2006 05:55 AM

My Neighbor Totoro gets MASSIVE points for catbus, but otherwise it's way too sentimental. Porco Rosso is clearly where it's at.

Taisai Oct 22, 2006 06:15 AM

Osamu Tezuka has often been seen as father of Japanese anime, along with Kenzo Masaoka. Indeed, Miyazaki once bashed him for it because we can say the tight budget for Japanese anime is partly Tezuka's fault. However, as I know almost nothing about anime, I don't intend to argue about it.

I've not happy with his 21th century works at all, but 20th century works and the comic of Nausicaä are just amazing.

Shorty Oct 22, 2006 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qwarky
Nausicaä is easily his worst film, despite its obvious quality. Jumbled, short plot and curiously one dimensional characters compared to his later works.
Nausicaä manga on the other hand, now that's just godly. Massive, sweeping storyline, superbly fleshed out characters with plenty of depth and very thought-provoking and aweinspiring subject matter. Had he made the film after finishing the manga, it would have certainly turned out a far better realised motion picture.

Nah, the story line for the Nausica manga was already there, just wasn't published yet when the movie came out.

I like how you left out certain Studio Ghibli production films that he didn't produce directly but still was an active part of in the making.

I'd definitely have to say my favorite is Castle in the Sky. Or Laputa, to be elitist or whatever. Been a fan for 20 years. Doesn't seem like that's going to change that much in the next 20 years either, judging by the way how family-oriented movies are made these days.

Double Post:
And another thought:
You're obviously going to lose out on votes on which movies he made were superior out of the choices you've listed, because quite frankly although the maker of the films is well known through one or two awards (them being the newest out of the collection), his most deserving works probably aren't as seen as much as it should be. (Kudos for getting the chronological order of films correct though)

Chibi Neko Oct 22, 2006 07:39 AM

I would have to say Mononoke Hime at this point, I love Spirited Away too, but Mononoke for the win form me.

map car man words telling me to do things Oct 22, 2006 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpnezeshorty
Nah, the story line for the Nausica manga was already there, just wasn't published yet when the movie came out.

Well, whether he had the story ready or not, Katsuhiro Otomo style, the storyline of the film was still cut short (considering the manga finished in -94). If you look at the manga, he took the plot of books 1 and 2 and then out of nowhere finished with a few elements that appeared in book 7.

I guess I was just disappointed Kushana's character was reduced to just being a vile she-bitch antagonist instead of the multi-layered, ambitious yet admirable woman she was in the manga.

Gechmir Oct 22, 2006 08:54 AM

;__; Every time someone says Osamu Tezuka, I go into mourning over the fact that the assholes at Viz are sitting on the rights to Black Jack. One of the best mangas ever, and they only got out two graphic novels. Over 200 chapters are gathering dust and will probably never see life outside Japan ><

Either way, when the hell is that new Black Jack movie coming out here? Jesus Christ...

janus zeal Oct 22, 2006 09:36 AM

Mononoki Hime for me~

Aardork: I second that Totoro comment, Although ive never seen Porco Rosso.

Balcony Heckler Oct 23, 2006 09:05 PM

I've so far collected all of the Miyazaki directed films, even The Castle of Cagliostro, bu now I'm gonna go for the stuff he participated in, like The Cat returns, and pom Poko

Matt Oct 23, 2006 09:38 PM

Damn, I have no idea which one I like the best. :(

Castle in the Sky was so mesmerizing, especially at the end.
I can watch Spirited Away again and again and never get bored with it.
Howl's Moving Castle was simply amazing.
Princess Mononoke was one of the first anime's that I watched. It was powerful, and one of the "you've got to watch this" animes that got me into the genre.

cento Oct 23, 2006 10:11 PM

Mononoke-Hime for me too... It's one of those movies that I still love to watch. It left a mark on me and I'll always hold it high on my list of favorites.

game_dragon1 Sep 14, 2007 05:15 AM

My favorite Hayao Miyazaki film was sprited away but my second favorite has to be Princess Mononoke (yay for studio Ghibi!)

Hikaru Ichijo Sep 18, 2007 05:17 PM

mmm....
is a hard answer....

Howl's Moving Castle
Spirited Away
Nausicaa

surasshu Sep 18, 2007 05:52 PM

My Neighbour Totoro gets points for being the only movie I've ever seen that's 100% feel good, and in that sense, perfect. Nausicaa was a weird movie to be sure, but the basic setting is my favourite still. I'm split between those two. They also both have strong personal attachments so that may be a factor.

I honestly don't know what some people's big gripe about Howl's Moving Castle is, aside from it obviously being somewhat popular and (therefore) not as "edgy" and "different" to like. It was an unassailably awesome movie.

EDIT: Q--I didn't read the manga, but in the movie Kushana didn't come of as a "vile she-bitch" to me at all.

Kimchi Sep 23, 2007 05:39 PM

Where's Anne of Green Gables =X


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