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Mucknuggle Sep 13, 2006 05:29 PM

Montreal's Columbine
 
So some random "punk" in a trenchcoat shot up a bunch of people at the Dawson College CEGEP today. The police perimeter is HUGE. They even shut down a large portion of the Metro (subway). The gunman was killed by the police and reports say that a 20 year old girl was shot in the head and died of her injuries in the hospital. I luckily don't know anybody that attended the school.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/natio...ts-dawson.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5343714.stm

Dubble Sep 13, 2006 05:31 PM

Just heard about it on the news. :(

Shonos Sep 13, 2006 05:35 PM

Bet you 10 bux it takes a day for someone to jump on it and blame video games.

Actually, scratch that. I'm sure the media, somewhere, already has.

*AkirA* Sep 13, 2006 05:35 PM

This is the first Ive seen of it. Very tragic anytime something like this happens.

Mucknuggle Sep 13, 2006 05:41 PM

They've just confirmed the death of the girl. Some guy called his mother and said "Mom, I think I'm going to die. I was shot in the chest." This sucks.

Unas Sep 13, 2006 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devo
If someone new goes out on a killing spree, I hope they wear Burberry or pink. I'm tired of this "punk black trench-coat" trend in murders. Especially since the media just rolls with it and attempts to blame music/movies/video games that must have influenced them.

Too true, but sadly it seems just saying the person was unstable doesn't make for good media sensationalism!

I was very suprised when I learned this was in Canada, it may have been just Micheal Moores rambling but I was under the impression the country had next-to-no gun crimes.

Mucknuggle Sep 13, 2006 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unas
Too true, but sadly it seems just saying the person was unstable doesn't make for good media sensationalism!

I was very suprised when I learned this was in Canada, it may have been just Micheal Moores rambling but I was under the impression the country had next-to-no gun crimes.

We do have very few gun crimes, especially in Montreal. I can't remember the last time that I heard about a shooting in the city. The last murder that I remember was some dude stabbing his father a few weeks ago.

*AkirA* Sep 13, 2006 06:02 PM

Isnt the "whoa is me, they're blaming the media," discussion a little overdone by now.

We know theyre gonna blame violent videogames, metal music, adult swim television programming, and completely overlook the bad parenting and mental state of the kid doing the shooting.

What if the kid was infulenced by these things? What if he wasnt? Who cares. This discussion has been dragged through the dirt countless times. The only difference is that it happened in Canada this time.

Ill never understand why people get so bent out of shape because a bunch of politicians wanna have a hissy fit over what our kids have access to in the media.

So your precious little videogames are being mistaken for murder simulators. Its not like there gonna take them away from us. If your able to purchase these games then your already an adult. That means your still gonna be able to get them irregardless of what they say about them.

Paco Sep 13, 2006 06:16 PM

Dude... I just saw that on BBC. This is...

Oh well. My condolances go out to the victim's family and fully await as the media turns this into a blame war.

Fatt Sep 13, 2006 06:19 PM

It is always rough to have a shooting, and the worst are always where violence is so minimal and unheard of.

I remember at my high school, around 95', a freshmen shot another freshmen over something obscenely stupid. The freshmen who pulled the trigger immediately had the shit beat out of him, and his gun removed from him, but the victim died.

In 94', again at my high school, there was this senior known as White Seed. He took a machette to a dude's head, and cut two others in the chest. Like the freshmen, he also had the shit kicked out of him pretty fast.

You never really get used to this type of violence. It's always a sad tragedy.

SketchTheArtist Sep 13, 2006 06:42 PM

About the whole 'blaming' issue, the media, in Quebec at least, isn't as convulated or trigger-happy as in the United States. Close, but not yet.

Maybe now Harper, Bush's little puppet, will look at the whole gun law he screwed up when he came into office and finally change it.

Mucknuggle Sep 13, 2006 06:52 PM

Ya... I don't think the Quebec media cares too much about blaming videogames or what not. I doubt Quebecers care too much about the incident either.

Lizardcommando Sep 13, 2006 06:54 PM

Well, this certainly sucks. I'm glad the police response in Montreal was alot better than the Jefferson County guys during Columbine. So was the gunman a former student or just a crazy sick fuck?

Mucknuggle Sep 13, 2006 07:00 PM

We don't know anything about the gunman other than what I wrote. There may have been more than one shooter.

YeOldeButchere Sep 13, 2006 07:08 PM

I've heard of it a bit earlier; just after I came back from school, I got a call from my father and eventually he told me about this. I didn't know someone has been killed though.

I'm not sure if I'm glad or not the shooter's been killed, though. On one hand, he died, and knowing our legal system he might not have gotten life imprisonment, but on the other hand, I really don't feel a death like this one is "right".

Mucknuggle Sep 13, 2006 07:10 PM

The police were just doing their job. To be honest, I would have preferred it if he had not been killed. That way he could have been sent to prison and suffered for the rest of his life. I have no sympathy at all for fuckers like that.

YeOldeButchere Sep 13, 2006 07:47 PM

Yeah, well, that's essentially my opinion too, but as I've said, him spending the rest of his life in jail wouldn't have necessarily happened.

Turbo Sep 13, 2006 08:08 PM

Oh boy, you can be sure when I heard about this, I had to know who got shot, I know a bunch of people who go to Dawson.. A friend of mine was shot today, called their family, found out. He'll make it, but I can be sure it was a very rough experience.. Right here too. Really sucks. Not much else to say, the news is just repeating the same info cause no new details sprung up.

Mucknuggle Sep 13, 2006 08:30 PM

Shit. You doing ok Turbo?

Turbo Sep 13, 2006 08:32 PM

Yeah. She's fine so I should really stop worrying... but its hard. You read all this shit on the news, but you dont expect it to happen.. especialy not HERE... but I s'pose theres morons in every part of the world.

Amanda Sep 13, 2006 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devo
This is a surprise coming from Canada, I rarely hear about someone up there going on a killing spree.

It's rare, which is why it makes the news like this when it DOES happen.

Though lest we forget, Montréal is already the site of what is probably Canada's most infamous shooting rampage, when 14 female students were murdered at École Polytechnique in 1989. That was my first thought when I heard about this shooting; "Shit, is some fuckwit doing a replay of the Montréal Massacre?" Time will tell what his (possibly their?) motives were, I guess.

Mucknuggle Sep 13, 2006 09:19 PM

Or not Amanda. The shooter is kind of dead. . .


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