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Token Feb 12, 2007 12:19 PM

Does Obama have a chance?
 
Obama was out under fire by the PM of Australia already, right after he announced that he would run for presidency. Him being put under attack like that may prove that he has a chance at winning.

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/

And is it right that the media is attacking him becuase he is a smoker?

Meth Feb 12, 2007 01:08 PM

I wouldn't say the American media is attacking him at all. On the contrary, I think they love him. They're using the smoking thing to equate him with the common man. They're also making all these silly comparisons between Obama and Abe Lincoln.

One primary reason why he doesn't have a chance is because of his name. It shouldn't be an issue at all, but it is. American history is filled with names like George Washington, Andrew Jackson, James Garfield, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, John Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, William Clinton. I think the general public might have a hard time adding Barack Hussein Obama to the ranks.

He's also a bit wet behind the ears. Anybody on this board could've won his Senate seat given the circumstances. Yet for some reason, people act as though it was some great triumph.

Grundlefield Earth Feb 12, 2007 03:55 PM

Obama equates to Osama. He ain't getting any votes. The end.

HazelGuy Feb 12, 2007 04:10 PM

John Howard needs to keep his mouth shut and stay the hell out of other countries politics. He's up for election very soon and so he can't have other major political figures saying the war in Iraq is bad, since he's backed it to the hilt since we became involved in it despite huge opposition Australia wide.

I truly hope Obama either makes it in as the candidate or running mate and then moves to run for office after he's been VP for a while. Gore/Obama would be excellent.

Bradylama Feb 12, 2007 05:13 PM

Ah ain't votin no sand niggrah into no offal orifice.

Trigunnerz Feb 12, 2007 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bradylama (Post 388563)
Ah ain't votin no sand niggrah into no offal orifice.

It's fucked up, but I bet that will be the reason he will lose.

Token Feb 12, 2007 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bradylama (Post 388563)
Ah ain't votin no sand niggrah into no offal orifice.

No offence here, but I dont know you that well, was that a joke?

EDIT:Yes, yes it was, I can answer my onw question.

Marco Feb 12, 2007 05:30 PM

I doubt he's voting for Obama, so it's true. The reasons for his voting for someone else might not involve the fact that he is a sand nigger, but the original statement is still true.

Lord Styphon Feb 12, 2007 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Trigunnerz (Post 388569)
It's fucked up, but I bet that will be the reason he will lose.

Personally, I'd bet that the reason he'd lose is because he first has to get past Hillary Clinton.

Yggdrasil Feb 12, 2007 06:54 PM

He isn't going win, I don't believe there is a large enough base of supporters for him to win.

Pez Feb 12, 2007 07:35 PM

Howard is an arse. Of course, his political future is on the line this year with opposition leader Rudd enjoying record poll support. This latest attempt at political distraction has backfired, with Obama’s response effectively telling him to put up or shut up. As for whether all this makes Obama more of a ‘winning chance,’ I’d say that matter on its own is largely irrelevant. While it’s probably far too early to tell, I suspect he’s going to get steamrolled by the likes of team Hillary.

Night Phoenix Feb 12, 2007 09:38 PM

Obama will likely be a VP candidate and will only win if Clinton has a cataclysmic meltdown that will make the Howard Dean scream pale in comparision.

taiga, Feb 12, 2007 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Night Phoenix (Post 388782)
cataclysmic meltdown

http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/...infoil_hat.jpg

Adamgian Feb 13, 2007 03:24 PM

Obama has an enormous amount of star power though; while he doesn't have the political might yet to rival Hilary, hes getting there. Hilary is just too polarizing, and if Obama begins to take a real stand on issues, he stands a chance.

Also, I don't see why everyone is continually harping on the lack of experience. If anything, an administration that has a strong willed leader with very smart advisors, who will come into conflict with one another, is the best form of leadership. I could see him going that route; it would guarantee my vote.

Temari Feb 13, 2007 03:49 PM

I don't remember where I read this question (I dont think it was these boards, so I apologize if I'm bringing up a question that's already been answered), but it really got me thinking.

"Are we, as the United States, ready for a minority president?"

This statement includes Clinton as well as Obama. I honestly think that Clinton has a chance, simply because everyone will rely on the fact that she has more experience. That and the fact that the whole country will be hoping for another bad reality TV show, this one featuring the Clinton's being once again in the White House. It'll be called the Nightly News.

Though I do expect to be hearing some horrible excuses for why Obama shouldn't get presidency... I've already heard some idiot on my campus reason that he's in conspiracy with the Middle East, simply because his middle name is 'Hussein', and his last name sounds so much like 'Osama'.

But all in all, he has some great policies, and he keeps trying. I think we'll see him in office at some point, if not in 2008. :)

knkwzrd Feb 13, 2007 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TemariPC31 (Post 389403)
"Are we, as the United States, ready for a minority president?"

This statement includes Clinton as well as Obama.

Since when are women a minority? I believe in the 2005 census there were slightly more women than men.

Temari Feb 13, 2007 04:40 PM

What Devo said. Women aren't paid or treated the same way as the white male. Until that's changed, we'll be a minority.

So... about this Obama guy... :)

BurningRanger Feb 13, 2007 04:46 PM

I hope Obama does become the US's next president. Fuck political experience, he has charisma, and on the world stage what the US needs right now is someone likable enough to win us back some support.

knkwzrd Feb 13, 2007 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TemariPC31 (Post 389436)
What Devo said. Women aren't paid or treated the same way as the white male. Until that's changed, we'll be a minority.

I'm not trying to say gender discrimination doesn't exist, but that doesn't make you a minority. There are less women in politics, but that doesn't mean less of them vote.

mistershow Feb 13, 2007 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yggdrasil (Post 388633)
He isn't going win, I don't believe there is a large enough base of supporters for him to win.

I don't know about that...He seems to be following the Howard Dean formula and attacking the social networking and college sites. I can't tell you how many times a day I see people joining the One Million Strong or whatever it is group on my news feed on facebook.

Jeffro Feb 13, 2007 06:00 PM

He's a fresh face in politics, has loads of charisma, and is harping on the fact that America needs change...



...he doesn't stand a chance. I bet you a million smackeroos that he doesn't get into the primaries because:

A.) Fox News smeared him with the false claim that he was raised with an extreme muslim background (or something like that), even though he is a U.C.C. Christian.

B.) He's black

Lord Styphon Feb 13, 2007 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistershow (Post 389499)
I don't know about that...He seems to be following the Howard Dean formula and attacking the social networking and college sites. I can't tell you how many times a day I see people joining the One Million Strong or whatever it is group on my news feed on facebook.

Which means nothing, given how this same formula failed Howard Dean so spectacularly.

Meth Feb 13, 2007 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BurningRanger (Post 389439)
I hope Obama does become the US's next president. Fuck political experience, he has charisma, and on the world stage what the US needs right now is someone likable enough to win us back some support.


Yeah fuck experience, I'm voting for somebody likable and charismatic. How bout... Mickey Mouse?

And Styphon's right about the facebook hype. The "Rock the Vote" crowd doesn't actually turn out at the polls with the same dedication as the baby boomers.


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