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Elixir Jan 22, 2007 06:38 PM

Universal DS Homebrew thread. Fucking cheapskates.
 
I'll update this soon.

Shaolin Samurai Jan 22, 2007 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir
- The M3 claims to have emulators built-in on the packaging, but doesn't.

Err yes, they do. The problem is, they are outdated versions of emulators that are still in development and being updated. So you're better off getting the latest releases anyway.

SNES emulation on the DS is definitely lacking, but I've managed to get Super Metroid running at near full speed and fully playable with SnezziDS. Anything that can do that is awesome in its own right.

Elixir Jan 22, 2007 06:54 PM

The thing I dislike about SNES emulation currently is the lack of support RPGs are getting. Some of them run perfectly fine, such as Earthbound, but the text menus won't display properly thus making the game totally unplayable.

Anything fast paced, like Rocket Knight Adventures or Gunstar Heroes is unplayable too due to the massive drop in framerate. I don't think the DS can handle a fully capable Gunstar Heroes. I know the PSP has issues with it unless you're in 4:3 mode, which sucks. You're probably off getting it on Virtual Console instead.

Gechmir Jan 22, 2007 07:02 PM

The slowdown is probably due to the fact that the Genesis had a special engine and stuff for running fast paced-games. The GBA had a re-release of Sonic 1 recently that was lambasted on here, and it was horribly slow and choppy because of this. I don't think that the DS can physically operate Genesis games to max capabilities due to this engine problem. Would other nintendo system games work on the DS? Should, but it'll take effort for many.

Krelian Jan 23, 2007 05:12 PM

After many fiascos last summer involving online payment systems et al, I gave up on trying to obtain a superkey and a G6 Lite. However, I'm very interested in this new R4 card, as QJ.net gave it an absolutely beaming review.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gechmir
I don't think that the DS can physically operate Genesis games to max capabilities due to this engine problem.

Yeah, someone'll have to knock together a homebrew blast processor. :(

Ascendancy Jan 24, 2007 07:35 AM

Krelain, I recently purchased an M3 Simply, which is essentially the same as the R4 (same pcb everything) for £37 from here http://www.consoleplus.co.uk/product...s-lite-adapter

Works a treat.

Elixir Jan 24, 2007 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gechmir (Post 371135)
Would other nintendo system games work on the DS? Should, but it'll take effort for many.

Most SNES games will work, unless you aim for the fast paced games. Like Uniracers. They'll (hopefully) iron out the RPG bug and I'll be enjoying Chrono Trigger and Earthbound on my DS sometime in 2007.

Added:

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Divineo - DS-X, G6 Lite, M3 DS Simply, M3 Perfect Lite, Supercard Lite, M3 Perfect CF, M3 Perfect SD, M3 Pro Mini SD, Max Media Launcher, Passcard, R4.

Pay by: Credit Card, International Money Order, Western Union, Bank Transfer

Bamboogaming - R4DS, Supercard SD, Supercard Mini SD, Supercard Lite, Supercard SD Rumble, Supercard Lite Rumble, Supercard DS, Ninjapass X9TF, M3 SD Slim, M3 SD Professional, M3 MiniSD Professional, M3 MiniSD, M3 Lite Professional, M3 Lite, M3 DS Simply, G6 Lite, EZ4 Lite Deluxe (Micro SD Version), DS-Link, more.

Pay by: Paypal

I've dealt with these guys once before. It took 13 working days to arrive, which was rather long, and to cut postage costs they often don't include packaging.

Realhotstuff - Supercard, Supercard SD, Supercard miniSD, Supercard Lite, Supercard DS One, M3 Adapter, M3 CF, M3 Slim SD, M3 mini SD, M3 Lite, G6 Lite, M3 DS Simply, R4DS, DS Linker, DS-Xtreme, DS-Link

Pay by: Credit Card, Paypal

Gameyeeeah - Practically everything. M3 Simply, M3 Lite Pro, M3 Perfect CF version, M3 Perfect Micro-SD Lite adapter, M3 Perfect SD (Slim), M3 Perfect mini SD, Supercard DS, Supercard Lite (in different colors), Supercard Lite Rumble, Supercard mini SD, Supercard mini SD Rumble, Supercard SD, Supercard SD Rumble, Superkey, Passcard, G6 Lite, DS Linker

Pay by: Paypal

I placed an order with these dudes and they shipped the same day.

FatsDomino Jan 24, 2007 11:13 AM

R4 and M3 Simply are practically the same with the slight difference of the R4 consuming a tiny bit less power and costing a bit less. I can't really figure out which one I want.

Elixir Jan 24, 2007 11:57 AM

They're identical basically (R4 is the CEO version of M3 Simply) so I guess it just comes down to personal choice.

Here's some pictures I took off Gameyeeeah of them.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/354/p60wz.th.jpghttp://img99.imageshack.us/img99/287...eall4pr.th.gif

Everyone seems to be going for the M3 (brand name, I guess). I went to bamboogaming and saw they were sold out. It took me about 10 minutes of googling to find a store that actually had stock.

FatsDomino Jan 24, 2007 12:04 PM

CEO version in that it looks more professional? =o

Elixir Jan 24, 2007 01:14 PM

CEO version because wikipedia says it's the manufacturer's own name, I guess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wikipedia
R4 is a Slot-1 flash card for the Nintendo DS. It is actually the exact same as the M3 Simply and the two can be converted to one another by bridging a single connector on the PCB. However, there has been a rumor that newer R4s will be modified to prevent this conversion.

The M3 Simply uses the same exact board as the R4DS, with the exception of two points being soldered together. The interfaces are the same except for different graphics, and the cards have different labels. R4 is the direct manufacturer of the devices.


Soluzar Jan 24, 2007 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elixir (Post 372265)
CEO version because wikipedia says it's the manufacturer's own name, I guess.

Could it be you're thinking of Original Equipment Manufacturer, or 'OEM' rather than 'CEO'? The only 'CEO' I can think of is the one who is the boss of a company. The Chief Executive Officer. If not, then what does the CEO that you're thinking of stand for?

Elixir Jan 24, 2007 01:52 PM

It's probably OEM. Sorry about that, I can't really tell the difference. It looks like the R4 is practically identical to the M3 aside from some small internal specs, so Acer, it shouldn't really matter which one you choose.

I'm leaning towards the M3 Simply though, because of, well.. everyone else is. There's already been an update for it (apparently) here and I'd imagine people will start supporting it more. But a few sites are showing the R4's their top seller (I'm guessing this is because their M3 Simply's are all out of stock) so it's a good second choice in that aspect.

nabhan Jan 24, 2007 04:26 PM

I'm just curious, how does the SuperCard MiniSD stick out of the GBA slot if it's the size of a GBA cart?

Elixir Jan 24, 2007 05:08 PM

Because all GBA cartridges stick out of the DS Lite, and so, GBA cartridge sized supercards will too.

nabhan Jan 24, 2007 05:40 PM

Oh, right. I have an original DS so I guess that didn't occur to me. Guess I'll be picking that up then. Price value ftw

Elixir Jan 27, 2007 05:33 AM

I won't add this to the topic as it's already covering both of them, but apparently you can use a M3 Simply DS and M3 Lite Perfect together.

Source

Price: $ 119.95 (€ 90.45)

Contents:
M3 Simply DS
SD Reader
M3 Lite Perfect Aapter
M3 Lite White Color Cover
M3 Lite Black Color Cover
M3 Lite Ice Blue Color Cover
Your Choice of Slot1 MicroSD Card
Your Choice of Slot2 MicroSD Card

Description:

Turn your DS lite into the Beast it has been waiting to become. The M3 Platinum Combo can help you Boast up to 2GB of storage by using both the M3 Simply and the M3 Lite Perfect. This is your ultimate solution for running everything you want including backups, homebrew, mp3's, movies, and with the M3 Lite Perfect you have GBA support!

Combining the M3 Simply with your M3 Lite Perfect is the ultimate solution for combining performance, reliability, and storage. By having both carts, you can easily use data and add the ability of GBA support via the Slot 2 M3 Lite Perfect. After you load all your data onto your MicroSD cards you could easily never remove the carts again!!

The M3 Simply allows "on the fly" patching so you no longer need to patch your DS backups before putting them on your microsd card! Just drag and drop!!!

The M3 Simply is more than just a Slot 1 solution. It is also a passme (passcard) device that will let you easily access your M3 lite and allow you to run GBA backups on your DS lite.

Your Only choice now is to decide if you want aany combination of 1GB, 2GB, or 512 MB MicroSD Cards for storage.

Run Your GBA backups on your M3 lite without any patching and run your NDS backups on the M3 simply without patching!

Order your M3 Platinum Combo today and upgrade your DS to the ultimate machine you always dreamed it could be.


This is overkill, really. The benefits of this are that it doesn't stick out at either end, and you have full compatibility for both DS and GBA games as well as a built-in passcard.

But yeah, you'll also be paying for 2 1 GB micro SD cards.

FatsDomino Jan 27, 2007 05:42 AM

If that was the price with the 1 GB SD cards I might bite immediately. However it isn't.

I don't play that many GBA games either. I guess I could find a couple that I've been meaning to play but I could also just do that via emulator and save some money.

What's the word on that M3 GBA flash card anyway?

Elixir Jan 27, 2007 06:03 AM

Which one are you talking about? There's quite a few M3 cards that support GBA games.

FatsDomino Jan 29, 2007 06:39 PM

Uh well, the one with that deal of course, lix. =o

Elixir Jan 29, 2007 06:52 PM

It looks like the M3 Lite Perfect is just an upgraded version of the M3 Lite. I still find it highly unnecessary to own both of them (requiring 2 micro SD cards), for 2 GB of space and GBA game access.

Actually I'm willing to bet that once they manage to get GBA games working through a slot 1 device, the range of devices available will slim down. After all, the DS slot doesn't have a cover, like the GBA slot has. I think slot 1 will become more popular.

Here's the item description for the Perfect, you can compare it to the M3 Lite in the topic if you like.

# Compatible with all Homebrew, Freeware, GBA games without any patching required and without any problem during gameplay. NDS games require patching.
# Excellent Save compatibility. It support all saves types with the RTC function.
# Capacity is very flexible and only depends on the card you use, which now are up to 4GByte (32Gbit) on the market.
# GOLDEN FINGER (CHEAT Code ) employs the IPS system that prevails in the world, with more diverse and powerful distinctive functions than CHT. The unique Auto IPS feature completely prevents computer crash.
# With unique Super Real Time Save Function, easily operates and it can revive without limits.
# MicroSD card +Reader can be used as a U disk and it only needs drag here and there when the game is burning.
# Saves money: MicroSD card can also be used in digital camera and other products, and you can share your card as you need it without the need to buy a dedicated card for your NDS/GBA.
# Supports GBA Games, FC games, Emulator games, GBA Movies, E-book, Cartoon books, browse pictures, enjoy music and so on.
# Supports 4-key reboot to Rom menu function, and supports 4-key reboot beginning function.

Shaolin Samurai Jan 30, 2007 12:22 AM

The major difference between the M3 Lite Perfect and the M3 Lite Professional is that the Pro does not support GBA files over 4 megabytes in size.

Krelian Jan 30, 2007 05:09 PM

Just ordered an R4 "Revolution" cart and a 1GB MicroSD card for £50 collectively on ConsolePlus.

This ought to be good.

Elixir Jan 30, 2007 05:25 PM

Well, my micro SD card and M3 Simply arrived today. Currently I'm browsing around for skins, then I'll work on games/emulators/music a little later. I'[ll do it later though. Skinning is important.

The amount of people making skins for the M3 Simply is incredible. Here's just a few.

"Big Balls" by mavis
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2959/previeweo5.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14118762...mavis.rar.html


"Black Phoenix" by bladerx
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4659/previewui7.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14118995...aderx.rar.html


"BlueFLOW" by mFLO
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6742/previewyu3.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14119276..._mFLO.rar.html


"DS Lite Blue" by neekstan
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5409/previewqw9.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14119464...kstan.rar.html


"EverGreen [Final]" by _DiGiTaL_
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7010/previewbo9.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14119722...iTaL_.rar.html


"FLCL Orange" by mFLO
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/4076/previewub7.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14120034..._mFLO.rar.html


"Golden Blue Eye" by Jin_CokteZ
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7673/previewpi0.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14120771...okteZ.rar.html


"MegaMan" by bladerx
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7138/previewuq2.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14120985...aderx.rar.html


"Metroid" by bladerx
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/6499/previewlk4.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14121229...aderx.rar.html


"Metroid" by Kyrax
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4996/previewcv1.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14121532...Kyrax.zip.html


"NDS [M3]" by Katalyst
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/2163/previewhm8.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14121766...alyst.zip.html


"Nintendo DSlite" by kiruyama
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/1586/previewlq8.png

http://rapidshare.com/files/14121996...uyama.rar.html


http://membres.lycos.fr/slave/images.../SimplyOsu.gif

I'll stop here but you get the idea. I've added the M3 forum and skin directory to the original topic.

Krelian Jan 30, 2007 05:34 PM

If the Simply and the Revolution are so similar, will those skins work on the R4 cart?


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