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samari Oct 14, 2008 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tritoch (Post 651949)

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I'm really not sure what to make of this season so far. It feels better than last season, but every episodes seems to have more and more plot holes. For instance, why Sylar couldn't hear a loud conversation 20 feet away when he has super hearing. I liked Void Guy too. :(

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I didn't really get that either; that was one of the first things I thought of when that scene happened. I'm sure, though, that Sylar figured out what was going on even if he couldn't hear it for some unknown reason. I liked the Void guy too =/.


I think this has been a decent season overall so far; so much better than the previous one. I'm finding myself getting more involved with the characters and the choices they're making.

Shenlon Oct 14, 2008 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tritoch (Post 651980)
The problem is that you don't even have to try to find them, because they've been so glaringly obvious lately. They don't ruin the show by any means, but their frequency is getting a little annoying.

exactly my thought.
One thing that I might have missed that left me confused is part of the end of season 2. Angela Patrelli said something like "Yes, I understand. it had to be done." or somewhere a long those lines, right after Nathan got shot. So I kinda assumed that it was the organization that ordered the hit on him but then at the start of season 3 it was future peter who tried to kill him in order to save the future. So was Angela referring to something else?

Aardark Oct 14, 2008 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tritoch (Post 651949)
It feels better than last season, but every episodes seems to have more and more plot holes. For instance, why Sylar couldn't hear a loud conversation 20 feet away when he has super hearing.

He lost his previous abilities last season.

The Plane Is A Tiger Oct 14, 2008 06:18 PM

But he's also spent this whole time getting them back, proven by him still using telekinesis. The loss of his abilities was only temporary.

Aardark Oct 14, 2008 06:24 PM

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“In ‘The Second Coming,’ Sylar says to Claire, ‘You see, I lost everything that made me special.’ Does Sylar mean that he permanently lost all of his acquired powers except for telekinesis? Has his slate of powers been ‘wiped clean’ and does he have to start all over again? If so, then by the end of ‘The Butterfly Effect,’ it appears that he only has his telekinesis power, Claire's healing and regeneration power, and Bob's power to turn things to gold. Or am I reading into things?”

Nope that’s right. Sylar’s starting over. Getting a whole new slate of powers as he goes.
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The Plane Is A Tiger Oct 14, 2008 07:17 PM

I guess he retained telekinesis because it was his first then. Doesn't make much sense, but convenient plot-wise I suppose.

Sousuke Oct 14, 2008 08:10 PM

Technically then, he retained his 'clockwork' power--the one that lets him acquire new abilities. I think that in the end, he just lost them temporarily.

Also, Sylar said in the car later that "You told him to kill me." or something along those lines. I think he did hear what was going on, but didn't know how to deal with it; especially with Void guy around.

makura Oct 14, 2008 08:11 PM

Bull shit. Then why does Great Chef Sylar from the future still have Ted's nuclear powers?

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The Plane Is A Tiger Oct 14, 2008 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sousuke
Also, Sylar said in the car later that "You told him to kill me." or something along those lines. I think he did hear what was going on, but didn't know how to deal with it; especially with Void guy around.

Sylar just figured it out from watching the situation. It was pretty clear even without hearing them what Noah tried to do. He didn't hear them though, because every time it cut to Sylar watching the conversation there was no sound and he had a slightly confused look on his face as he was trying to figure out what Noah was saying.

Phantom makes a good point too. I forgot all about him using Sprague's power a few episodes ago.

makura Oct 14, 2008 08:49 PM

Oh, let's add that when Peter met Great Chef Sylar, he made him paint the future, clearly Isaac's power.

Let's face it. The writers can't keep up with continuity.

Since he still has Ted and Isaac's powers, he still should have freezing powers, melting powers, telekinesis, enhanced memory from Hiro's dead girlfriend, Claire's regen powers, Bob's Midas touch, Bridget's abilty to see history of anything (which hasn't been used yet), and Jesse's banshee scream.

spoiler regarding the actual future spoiler mentioned earlier:
If what you claim is true. That Adam is gonna die. How is that possible? Isn't he like Claire and Sylar, they can't die. Ever. Oh and back in the mess that is Season 2, didn't some redhead say that Adam can be killed by having his head chopped off? ..stupid writers...


Where's my Kristen Bell? :[

Majin yami Oct 14, 2008 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Aardark (Post 652009)

Doubly bullshit as he used telekenisis to move the can and dumpster at the end of Season 2, just after he injected himself with the antidote.

makura Oct 20, 2008 08:23 PM

Wow. I stand corrected about my comment about Adam. I guess it was possible after all.
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I liked his character too :[

Interrobang Oct 20, 2008 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Majin yami (Post 652049)
Doubly bullshit as he used telekenisis to move the can and dumpster at the end of Season 2, just after he injected himself with the antidote.

His telekinesis has always been a special case (it was the only ability the Company found in his DNA in season one) and they stated they would explain why later.

Musharraf Oct 28, 2008 02:57 AM

lol this season is getting out of hand, there are at least five people with new super powers each episode.

Also, Parkman is getting on my nerves with his turtle :/

thesleeper Oct 28, 2008 05:05 AM

well, i think the season is pretty cool so far, many wtf moments and the whole issue about time travel and changing the future. or the past. (what happened to that irish girl? peter's really irresponsible.)

and great chef sylar! making waffles! there has to be some superhero he stole that from. (whos the mother then? claire?)

and that african guy. id like that mp3.

what episode are you people on in the us? im up to episode 5 here in the east.

nuttyturnip Oct 28, 2008 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by thesleeper (Post 655309)
and great chef sylar! making waffles! there has to be some superhero he stole that from. (whos the mother then? claire?)

You really haven't been paying attention this season, have you? Sylar is Claire's uncle. Unless he wants to add "creepy incest pervert" to his list of crimes, I don't think he'll ever have sex with Claire.

Of all the convoluted things going on this season, Mohinder bothers me the most. One minute he's Indian Spiderman, drugging people and wrapping them in cocoons, the next he's Rational Scientist. It could be chalked up to Jekyll/Hyde behavior except that Rational Scientist continues to defend what Spiderman does. Plus the whole bit about "I've been duped by companies with hidden agendas before, but what the hell, let's make it a third time" last night just makes me want Mohinder to die and be reincarnated as a dung beetle.

Shenlon Oct 28, 2008 10:50 AM

I think we've all come to hate mohinder as the stupid smart scientist who's gullible and stupid.
I've been wondering how future sylar came to have a kid as well, I'm guessing he might not be the biological father. He called him noah and pretty much took over the bennete household for some reason. I'm guessing Noah somehow died thanks to syler and he felt responsible.
But I guess it might not matter since that future will become obsolete.
I've also been wondering if Peters's father can really take Sylers's ability. Since technically he just learned how they worked right? So if he tries to take his power will he take the knowledge he needs to make them work? Well whatever, I'm sure they'll explain everything in a very open ended super hero comic book way.

Also glad that spanish chick is gone

makura Oct 30, 2008 02:16 PM

My question is.. Where is the Haitian in all this? They could easily use him to negate some of the villian's powers. Even Peter should have the powers to negate, he's been in contact with the Haitian before.

I don't like Meredith. She's only there for filler crap.
And great.. now it's Sylar's turn to be manipulated by other people. I liked it better when he was in control.

Sylar's kid in the future.. who knows how the writers are going to explain that crap. Maybe someone turned Noah into a baby.. -_-

It's entertaining to watch some of the characters, but this series isn't smart at all anymore.

Judge Ito Oct 31, 2008 01:05 AM

So, cool characters are dying left and right and something really heavy seems to be happening every week, partially to make up for last year's lackluster mini season. I'm expecting a pretty big reset button to happen towards the end of this season or the next. Anybody with me on that?

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Originally Posted by Shenlon (Post 655385)
Also glad that spanish chick is gone

All the brunettes either die or get written out. She was good eye candy, regardless.

makura Nov 3, 2008 02:59 AM

Writers/co-executive producers Jesse Alexander and Jeph Loeb were fired.

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Nail in the coffin?

Rockgamer Nov 10, 2008 10:08 PM

Okay, I was one of the people who was enjoying Season 3 despite the fact that most people said it sucked, but now, I'm changing my stance. I'm sick of every other fucking episode not being in the present (seriously, how many flashbacks or visions of the future do we need?), and I'm sick of the plot either not moving forward at all or moving in a stupid direction. I'd honestly have no problem now if this show got cancelled in the near future, because pretty much everything after Season 1 sucks anyway. It just seems like such wasted potential.

Rotorblade Nov 10, 2008 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by striped phantom (Post 656460)
Writers/co-executive producers Jesse Alexander and Jeph Loeb were fired.

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Nail in the coffin?

Uh, Jeph Loeb is a terrible writer, so while I can't speak for Jesse Alexander, I know that's one piece of crap off the show's writing staff.

Thalin Nov 11, 2008 02:08 PM

I must admit I wanted the show to continue, but i'm a sucker for these kind of episodes, where they link in scenes from past seasons that make you oo and ah. They do it a lot on LOST and I love it :D

makura Nov 11, 2008 02:32 PM

I didn't mind this ep. At least we learned some things. I guess they had to do it in order to show a clear path in the plot as to who is the evil one. Still, it felt a little forceful to focus on Meredith (why Hiro also had past visions of her.) I bet they're going to give her a more important role later on.

I couldn't help but to read some spoilers ahead to see if the show is going on a good path or not. But you guys should stick around in a couple of eps. There's going to be surprising guest stars :D

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon Nov 11, 2008 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by striped phantom (Post 658410)
But you guys should stick around in a couple of eps. There's going to be surprising guest stars :D

If one of these guest stars is not Christopher Eccleston, the series is finished.


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