An intolerant people named Québec
 

Despite my vivid hatred towards Pierre Trudeau (no one has contributed more to the division of this country), I have to conceed one thing to him: nationalism leads to intolerance.

And Québec is an intolerant society (despites "ours" electing a cokehead who used public funds to satisfy his vice). I had the most vivid proof last week. The two following pictures show what left-wing hippies do to freedom of speech. The one with 2 guys in it show posters of Mario Dumont, head of a centre-right provincial party, who will give a conference at Université Laval on Wednesday. The other one is the legend under the posters: «à saccager» (to be destroyed). When a member of our group asked why this was there, one of the hippies (the long haired one on the picture) aswered quote: "We are just taking out your posters so we can put ours". Stupid fuck...:boxing:

This intolerance goes along other stupid things. In 2004, the major Quebec City radio station was closed down because of tis content (but it managed to survive). Among those who were happy about it: sovereignists, labour unionists, hippies... All of whom CHOI (the radio station) were denouncing for their behaviours. A PQ MNA from Quebec City clearly said it: had CHOI been for separation, we would have supported it!

Quebec, a tolerant society? I think not!

Look, I might be a bit rude here, but most people around here probably don't care much about stuff concerning Quebec. One of the thing I noticed annoys people from other provinces and countries most is that a large proportion of people from Quebec seem to believe that their problems deserve everyone's attention. And I'm not necessarily talking about those that want to become an independent country. Point is, most people don't care and will just get even more annoyed with us no matter what you're saying, and to some extent, I can kind of understand.

That aside, you're not exactly providing much for discussion here. I'm not even sure what your point is. Quebec is intolerant, fine, if you say so. Some moron ripped off some posters and wrote shit on a blackboard? You'll find retards like that anywhere you go, that's not exactly something you'll only see in Quebec... As for the radio station thing, assuming what you've said is actually true, it's not so much that Quebec is intolerant, it's more of something called politics. People will do whatever they can to silence those that disagree with them, whoever they are, if they have the power to do so.

And that's one of the problems: those same intolerant people want to separate from canada!

As for people caring: this intolerance can be felt by any non french speaking person outside Québec ( I have clearly seen it). Maybe other canadians/quebecers could talk about it to prove/disprove me

This topic seems too specialized to one certain region for most of us to really care too much about.

You might want to have that 'vivid hatred' looked at, sounds like it can lead to problems.

Your complaints are that political groups are disrespectful towards each other's propaganda/posters? Well no shit. Happens all the time, and happens from each side of the political spectrum. Nothing to do with Quebec. Or is it just that this example is of the 'wrong' side doing it? Or perhaps it's just that it's hippies? You are a little unclear.

CHOI was shut down because of it's political leanings? That's bullshit. Their license was not renewed due to violations of the 'Radio Regulations 1986', and CHOI-FM's Code of Ethics. It was *not* the content or the political nature/side, it was the way in which things were presented. Inapropriate language (even by CHOI-FM's stated ethics), and personal attacks were what caused this. http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/NEWS/RELEA...04/r040713.htm

I was recently in Quebec (Lachine, right beside Laval), and yes, things are different there. However, I don't see how this is a particularly intolerant province. All the provinces seem pretty insular actually, it's just that Quebec is more vocal, and there is the more prominent language difference which accentuates things.

So really, what's the problem?

Speaking as a delegate from Manitoba, I can safely say we hate people from Quebec and people from Alberta equally. It has nothing to do with culture, it's just you guys won't stop bitching.

Actually Fjordor, quite a few of the threads in the Political palace ‘are’ specialized to one certain region, Afghanistan, Iraq, America, Canada, Mexico… I also had a lot of posts on my thread on the seal hunt, which takes place in a certain region, but enough of that….

I find that Québec is a lot like other places in the country, some people are intolerant and some are not, however I have had a few ‘interesting’ encounters there. I can speak enough French to get me around, but people can hear my accent, and know that I am a English speaker and give me dirty looks, actually… come to think of it, they where from teenagers, adults smile when they heard me. The leader of the Bloc party Gilles Duceppe does not help, he behaves that Québec is the only province that matters in the country, and does not want to work together to make things right. He does not get it that Canadians really care about the province.

Québec voted not once... but TWICE to stay with Canada, and Gilles wants to have another referendum on a issue that has already been resolved MULTIPLE times! I think Gilles Duceppe needs to start getting the idea that he is a Canadian.

The thing I dont get is that this guy is talking about people being intolerant when he's being the most intolerant person around

Quoted for truth.

For the non Quebecers: Phoque le PQ translates into Fuck the Parti Quebecois (the pro-separation provincial party). GJ being a hypocrite Phoque le PQ. :edgarrock:

I'm a strong supporter to keep our country whole - but if they want to have another refferendum, and decide that they want to be own thier own, then they can leave - and leave all of the federal support with it.

Canada is a great place to live, and be a part of - I don't think that the seperatists realize how good they've got it.

I know all too much about it. I was laughing at anglos' accent during katimavik. When they made me realise it, i stopped immediatly. When we were in st-jean, they were looked down upon and treated like shit (literally). I think I now understand why so few English speakers who know French don't speak the language despite their knowing it. You guys don't make fun of our mistakes:ashamed:

As for Gilles Duceppe: the only thing he "probably" like about Canada is that it pays his wage :p

Since Quebecers were "stupid" enough to fall for Canada's love in, then they need to vote again :lolsign:

If you'd spend one week (or even one day) in the Social Sciences building at Université LAval, then you'd probably agree with my point ;)

But your stating it proves that i'm not considering myself more catholic than the pope

The thing you have to understand about Québec is that the people here are basically rednecks. The French, anyway.

Montréal is relatively civilized.

In Australia, Alan Cadman made a bid for (centre right) Liberal party leadership on an ignorance of tolerance platform, refusing to even acknowledge it's existence. This just blew away John Howard's position on the issue, he's always been against tolerance.

Unfortunately the backbench revolt subsided and Cadman renounced his leadership bid. Australia could've been a very different place.

I think it's kind of funny that your Liberal party leans to the right.

Yeah they stand for the liberalisation of trade, not people. The Labor party, complete with American spelling is the mainstream left party. Also the Democrats are a centrist party here and the idea of Republicanism is dominated by the left.

All in all pretty fascinating.

I've been alive for 25 years long enough to know what bigotry looks like, thanks

Asshole

As bad as you make Quebec out to be, they're nothing compared to the Neatherlands, who are now issuing video tapes to all prospective immigrants on all the reasons NOT to move to their country.

And the best thing about this: the tape is full of porn. No kidding.

HOOK YO NIGGA UP SON

Dear Dutch Embassy,

I would like to come to your country. Is there any information I should be aware of?

Love your Windmills,
Bradylama

Fuck and they say we are messed up :/

You'd think they would realize that giving people porn will only attract the wrong type of people to their country.

But it's the Right Kind. Not Muslims.

Turpin ban++?

Netherlands have so many morrocans immigrants, but it seems that they do not want anymore ...