PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread
 

Well, only four and a half more months until this bad boy is released. I don't doubt it will be at least slightly more powerful hardware-wise than the Xbox 360, but what about the games? So far, I don't see anything stunning that sells the system for me. Sure, MGS is comin' like what, but I've seen better. I'll probably just pick a couple up to resell for a couple thousand greens.

wow you happen to make this thread the same time I did

Can we get some clarification on the pricing? I've heard some rumors that it will cost less than the original $500 and other rumors have estimated costs closer to $900.

Anybody with enough links could start some decent discussion by explaining where Sony's official stance on this is.

Well, it's just rumors vs. rumors so "clarification" isn't exactly possible.

I doubt they're stupid enough (yes Sony's stupid, but not THAT stupid) to release it at $900. 500 would be a much more accurate esitmate, since they're trying to compete with Microsoft here. The already huge marketshare and userbase they have with PS2 will probably be enough to give them an easy victory regardless of how good the console actually is, but it's not enough to sell consoles at almost a grand.

I read somewhere they'll probably take a hit on the price just to keep it in a comparable bracket with the other consoles.

The idea of $900 for a console seems way too steep though, imo. Most I could see them going is $500. But then again, I have no idea what all they're exactly putting in this thing.

Cool, so PS3 will be launched in Europe in 2012 or so, hehe

No seriously, I think even Sony doesn't know anything about when to launch and for how much money.

You've got a point, seeing as how the 360 made the $400 price point work, Sony could easily grow a big pair and ask for $500 or drop a bomb with a $300 machine. Sony simply said "Coming Spring 2006" and the media went berserk with all sorts of speculation since that's where most of the PS3 hype is coming from, rather than Sony.

Eh, as long as I get my Devil May Cry 4 and Motorstorm, I'm all good.

Here is a Hands On PS3 article a few members might be interested in.:eyebrow:

Gotta love Sony with their vague "Spring 2006."

They could mean Spring 2006 on MARS for all we know.

You have no idea how much that article has gone through on GAF or even PSINext's forums. His description of his current dev-kit talks about it being a tower, while the final kits are in server blade form. Also, his mention of no Blu-Ray drive present conflicts with quite a few devs over on B3D who have the latest kit and are actively streaming things off the discs to see what can and cna't be done (DeanoC for one).

My bet? He works for a small third party dev.

Well either way they're financially fucked as far as the PS3 hardware is concerned. Odds are the production costs for one PS3 are about 800~900 bucks, so a price below 500 bucks would seriously surprise me.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the price was way out of alot of people's reach. When the PS2 was released here, it amounted to exactly $1000 NZD. That's roughly $668 USD(thank you, currency conversion) and still way overpriced. Mind you, the currency difference over the period of 2001 through to 2006 has changed, so it isn't entirely accurate. Still, it's alot for a console, a console which is a first version and there's bound to be issues come up.

Myself, I'm waiting until everything's cleared up and there's a revision or a MASSIVE price drop, whichever comes first. There's the simple problem of knowing that it's going to set your wallet on fire, and then there's the simply problem of not knowing what errors you might encounter.

There might be some major PS3 news tonight.

http://gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=6083

We'll find out soon enough.

And then there's this crazy news.

http://ps3.qj.net/PS3-launch-this-month-/pg/49/aid/5360

Wonder if it could be a sign that the system will be coming within spring after all. I see no point bidding on the system unless there are some games to purchase within the release, but I still want one. Badly.

$900 is enough to build a decent PC, no one in their right mind would pay that money for a game console (unless they're one of the geniuses who paid over $2000 for an XBox 360). That would be like spending $7 on a brand of enhanced milk, sure it's better, but over 2x better than regular milk?

I wouldn't worry about the PS3 costing an arm and a leg. Console makers never make any profit off thier consoles anyways, right? Why would they price it insanely high to cover costs. Price it lower, sell alot, make up the money from software. =/

I know I wont be getting a PS3 anytime soon though. I'm more worried about getting a HD capable TV first. I dont really want to hook a PS3 to my dinky 20 year old TV.

Soy milk isn't so bad but it's clearly overrated. I'll take a substitute anyday. :rolleyes:

Hmm, looks like there may not be any PS3 related events until E3, essentially proving what Phil Harrison said at E3 2005. What he basically said was that the machine was "going underground until E3" and since he's the head of SCEWWS I wouldn't be surprised if this is the case.

Here's the article:

Playstation 3 is the next Advent Children. :(

Let me tell you all a little bit about PS3.

1. The graphics will look no better than the 360, possibly even worse due to the complexity of developing for CELL.

2. The unit will be rushed in any scenario, leading to hardware problems that will eclipse the PS2's.

3. There is no way that Sony could afford to lose all that money by putting a BR drive in every PS3, so there has been talk of dual SKUs. This doesn't make sense though, since the media will be used for games as well. So we can only conclude that the stock Blu-ray drive that comes in all PS3s will be a cheap, awful piece of crap, kind of like the PS2 DVD player.

4. Here is what Sony's PS3 unveiling at E3 will consist of: Fake CG, fake CG, and fake CG.

5. Sony may just announce that PS3 games will use standard DVD9, so they can sell a high-priced version of the PS3 for $900.

Gotta get the AA guns ready for this one.

Either way you look at it, Snake has his biggest challenge yet. Getting those darn PS3s to gamers living rooms. Considering the price that is. :biggrin:

He'll just have Otacon shoot you from the next building with a tranq dart while he walks into your house with a PS3 anyway.

1. Didn't they emphasize the physics capabilities of PS2 as well. ::fart noise::

2. BR is such a new technology. There'll be problems.

3. I'm not even talking about price here. I'm just against the notion that the Blu-ray drive is some kind of incredible incentive for PS3 owners, because with all cases considered, the quality of it will be awful. Compare the stock PS2 DVD drive to a standalone player, or the Xbox's even.

5. I'm saying that games might not be on BR at all.

Oh yeah, can someone clarify how BR games are even going to work on the PS3. I've heard that HDMI isn't required, which makes sense, because HDMI would spell suicide.

When was this? I remember Kutaragi talking about how it could bring little kids back to life and operate global mind control machines, but not physics.

Pfft, of course, that's why first adopters are consciously spending their money on buggy and unreliable hardware. That's on them. You have a point about the Blu-Ray drive being an incentive, since (like you said) it isn't. We may not see it's benefits for games until next gen. You've also, unknowingly, touched on something most folks don't know about the PS3: It's CPU and GPU are doing things that a standalone player's hardware would be doing, therefore reducing it's quality.

Red lasers are cheap as dirt, as are most parts in a BRD, and the blue laser/diode isn't hard to make either.

BTW, the PS2 and XBox are shitty DVD players and wouldn't try to make one out as better than the other. It's like trying to say green tinged shit is better than blue shit.

They may not be, and it's very likely that they won't. How many DVD9 games were there this gen? How many of those actually came close to filling that? Even with loads of uncompressed sound or textures still wouldn't come close to filling BR discs.

Requiring HDMI for PS3 games would be tantamount to blowing your fucking head off after having lapped your competitors 50 times over. With games the only difference the between the 360 and PS3 in terms of output would be that the latter simply has another means of getting the image to your TV.

Sony certainly shot themselves in the foot, creating another proprietary format for them to cash in on. I just hope this one bombs as the others. In my opinion to put the Sony fans' mind at ease, the PS3 release date might as well coinicide with the all digital tv signal switch of 2009. :rolleyes: This way a definitive release date is set for once.